[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

All friends? i don't say that to my friends, if they think someone is hot and i don't, i don't insult them or tell them they need glasses, i respect their opinion
And why is it worse? its the same thing, She is still insulting the way someone looks, the same as Helen has done, no-one is better than anyone else in there

it was properly a joke im sure ashleigh knew chris didn't mean it has he was pissed but ashleighs comments is no where near as bad as helens otherwise ashleigh would have complaints and warnings like helen does

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

People keep mistaking maturity for being boring, dont worry its an easy mistake to make

Don't worry Liam,Ashleigh could crush a kitten and it would be excused as the right thing to do,by some people,pfft,

[Patricia4]

I don't hate her but Im not a big fan either but if she won so be it she's won by the votes.

[Forgetmenot]

Originally Posted by Jords

I wasnt a fan of Ashleigh at the start because I thought she was a bit too miserable but then I understood her situation better. She was stuck in the house branded in the 'uncool' group which brought back memories of high school for her, the divide in the house was nasty and uncomfortable and so she wasnt in a good place in mind and naturally wasnt going to be bouncing off the walls. Over the series though weve seen her friendships with Danielle, Chris and Christopher flourish, weve seen her get more involved in the tasks and decisions BB put to the HMs and shes developed a lot since Week 1 and now is one of my favourites.

imo some people are hung up on her being 'miserable' at times and completely ignoring the situation. I wouldnt be very happy living amongst Helen, Pauline, Steven either.

Well Helen was clearly unhappy at the start, finding it hard to adjust and on the defensive but she is kind and big hearted. Ashleigh kind of gives off this disapproving of others, swearing what ever but fir an 18 year old she does swear as well and is rather sour and venomous with it.then she lies in the bath in her mini bikini like she's on display some how, look at me..double standards..not a winner in my eyes.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

it was properly a joke im sure ashleigh knew chris didn't mean it has he was pissed but ashleighs comments is no where near as bad as helens otherwise ashleigh would have complaints and warnings like helen does

In your opinion they're not as bad, but you cant seem to remove your rose tinted glasses where Ashleigh is concerned, she's way more venomous than Helen, at least you know where you are with Helen, Ashleigh is just a smiling assassin who would screw anyone ever to make herself look better

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Don't worry Liam,Ashleigh could crush a kitten and it would be excused as the right thing to do,by some people,pfft,

'look at her, helping to end the poor animals suffering, what a god #Queen #WhenWillHelen'

[Denver]

Originally Posted by jet

She's hated because her maturity, intelligence, self - awareness and self - respect shows up Helen's opposite characteristics in full technicolor. The stark contrast is hard to take.

Mature people dont slag people of behind there back or they do t own up to there mistake also childish brats will never be mature

[kefln]

Originally Posted by adamski94

But you have no right to judge her as a housemate on past history

Originally Posted by adamski94

She is horrible and thinks she is better then everyone else

Originally Posted by adamski94

People are to fickle to see through ashliegh she has no intention to give money to charity she is just saying thing she knows the public like oh and funny how she forgot about her best freind the second she walked out the front door but to be honest she could do with the 100k as she needs her face sorting

These statements don't line up. Its not ok to judge people by their actions, but ok to make stuff up and insult their looks.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Mature people dont slag people of behind there back or they do t own up to there mistake also childish brats will never be mature

And I present to you the name "slugworth". Who was it that came up with that on day 2?

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Just one comment? okay.. so what about the time she told Chris that he 'needed glasses' if he thought that Helen was the sexiest housemate?
And I'm not saying Helen hasn't said some bad stuff, but at least she owns up to it instead of playing the sweetness and light card like your sly little princess

What sweetness and light card? Not one person who likes her thinks she's "sweet"

[Denver]

Originally Posted by kefln

These statements don't line up. Its not ok to judge people by their actions, but ok to make stuff up and insult their looks.

Unlike most people i judge people solely how there are in the house and no matter whether you like her or hate her helen is the only one to stay true to herself and hasnt changed her personality to suit the public

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Mature people dont slag people of behind there back

Don't be absurd. Almost everyone in life does it.

or they do t own up to there mistake also childish brats will never be mature

Yes, we all go around telling each other exactly how we feel at any given moment to other people's faces. And do you know what happened? It turned into Mad Max 2 and civilization was lost.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

In your opinion they're not as bad, but you cant seem to remove your rose tinted glasses where Ashleigh is concerned, she's way more venomous than Helen, at least you know where you are with Helen, Ashleigh is just a smiling assassin who would screw anyone ever to make herself look better

in most opinions, there is a reason why helen is hated by the public you know

[Denver]

Originally Posted by kefln

Have you read Ashleighs bio? She fund raises for animal shelters?

So lets "hate" her and mock her fans for made up stuff.

So because you read it it makes it true? We have seen nothing to suggest she cares about animals

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Unlike most people i judge people solely how there are in the house and no matter whether you like her or hate her helen is the only one to stay true to herself and hasnt changed her personality to suit the public

What's positive about that if the public perception of you being a bully and a nasty piece of work is true?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Don't be absurd. Almost everyone in life does it.




Yes, we all go around telling each other exactly how we feel at any given moment to other people's faces. And do you know what happened? It turned into Mad Max 2 and civilization was lost.

If i have a problem with someone i will sit down with them and talk it through i wont go slagging them of to anyone who will listen

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by kefln

Have you read Ashleighs bio? She fund raises for animal shelters?

So lets "hate" her and mock her fans for made up stuff.

Callum from last year said that he was an exciting ladies man... Unless i'm mistaken, that was a load of rubbish too, people lie to get into the house and to be liked

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by adamski94

So because you read it it makes it true? We have seen nothing to suggest she cares about animals

she is a vegetarian its mos likely its true, and yes we have, when they was doing a one word game ashleigh was offended by her dog getting killed in the story. even her boyfriend says she cries at sick animal adverts

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What's positive about that if the public perception of you being a bully and a nasty piece of work is true?

Pauline was a bully but helen isnt yes she says horrible things but she doesnt make them sit out like pauline

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by adamski94

If i have a problem with someone i will sit down with them and talk it through i wont go slagging them of to anyone who will listen

In a house where any issue can be used to nominate you and you have to wake up with that person the next day... No, you wouldn't.

And who would waste the time with some people to do that? I certainly wouldn't on a person like Helen who flies off the handle at anyone questioning her.

[Vanessa]

She can't be that hated if she's still there.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

In a house where any issue can be used to nominate you and you have to wake up with that person the next day... No, you wouldn't.

And who would waste the time with some people to do that? I certainly wouldn't on a person like Helen who flies off the handle at anyone questioning her.

I think i would as i wouldnt change to please anyone

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Pauline was a bully but helen isnt yes she says horrible things but she doesnt make them sit out like pauline

She isolated Jale as much as Pauline and referred to her as a slug to her mates for the first week. She treated Chris like something she had just trodden in on the first night.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I fairly much agree with this...so much leeway is given for Helen's past and that she may have had a tough life but none is given to Ashleigh for the fact that she was bullied...and I think it's because she hasn't fitted the 'stereotypical victim' thing but the whole situation in the house from the beginning with the clique must have been awful for her and for the first few weeks she looked to me out of her depth...then she started to 'fight it' by trying to manipulate Ash from being saved...probably as a way to try to diffuse the clique and take away a big part of them..it didn't work but at least she tried and she gathered 'haters' for that...


..anyway, she's far from perfect, who is...but I think she has on the whole, conducted herself well through her time in the house and with some of the personalities that have been there...the 'language' thing is funny as well because yeah she swears, can swear with the best of them..so she's as bad as Helen/they're as bad as each other..?..well no, because with Helen it's not just about swearing, that's nothing/who cares..it's things like what she says...the toast..?..Christopher..?..things like that, whe's just plain bitter and mean and I personally don't believe Ashleigh is...most people would have to go some way to ever become a 'Helen' in this life....

Great post Ammi!!

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What sweetness and light card? Not one person who likes her thinks she's "sweet"

i was talking about Ashleigh playing the sweetness and light card.. but hey, your post described Ashleigh, so cheers