[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Good

Charley made that sereries

Again. Agree.
Did you like Nicky?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by BB6

Again. Agree.
Did you like Nicky?

Nicky > Charley

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by BB6

Again. Agree.
Did you like Nicky?

Goddess Nicky

[Daniel-X]

Chanelle > Nicky > Rest of BB8 house > Charley

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LuciaX

Chanelle > Nicky > Rest of BB8 house > Charley

I agree Chanelle and Nicky > Charley

but Charley is better than jonty,ziggy,gerry etc

[Daniel.]

Yes @ BB6

Charley and Nicky >>>>

[Daniel.]

Stay deluded

[Liam-]

Everyone in BB8 annoyed me apart from Nicky and Tracey

[Samm]

Give me example of Gina being horrible then

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Give me example of Gina being horrible then

I'm pretty sure we watched the same series. Evidently, the things I saw as horrible were things you had no problem with, so what discussion is there to be had? Any example I provide will just be met with excuses.

But, as you asked:

Mocking Sallie's footwear as "cheap Primark shoes": horrible to anybody who doesn't judge people based on where they shop. (And then the moron branded Zoe a snob for her Tesco comments. She evidently thinks people have the memory of a goldfish ).
Telling Sallie "your parents probably don't even like you". Again, I think Sallie is a horrible person, but that doesn't make Gina any better. (I remember hearing she also said something similar to a Hazel fan on Twitter).
Rushing around the house to tell everyone she's just experienced racism after Jemima's comments before even trying to deal with it rationally.
Gathering the group with the specific intent of exposing what some people said in their audition tapes to make people uncomfortable as if she's some sort of saint (and when it's a given that most people exaggerate in them).
Causing an issue with Jackie when she returned to find Jackie was now in her bed (a complete non-issue), which she was more than entitled to considering, as far as they knew, Gina was gone.
Being one of the people to gang up on Charlie the night of the friends and family nominations. Charlie was treated like utter **** that night by a few of them, of which Gina was one, and she was loving every minute of it like the spiteful piece of work she is.

She was a nasty, entitled, self-righteous bitch with zero self awareness whatsoever. She took a weird amount of pleasure out of making people feel uncomfortable yet was always first in line to seize the moral highground whenever she felt she was being wronged. One of the most overrated housemates in BB history as far as I'm concerned, and no amount of history-rewriting and excuses made for her will change that.

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Good post, Gina detractors seem to forget her rather lovely side when she was nice to outsiders such as Wolfy and Callum

You can hardly lump all "Gina detractors" in together. I don't "seem to forget" anything. I never claimed she was awful 24/7, even Helen (who is probably my least favourite of all time) showed a softer side now and then. That doesn't erase all the bad stuff.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I'm pretty sure we watched the same series. Evidently, the things I saw as horrible were things you had no problem with, so what discussion is there to be had? Any example I provide will just be met with excuses.

But, as you asked:

Mocking Sallie's footwear as "cheap Primark shoes": horrible to anybody who doesn't judge people based on where they shop. (And then the moron branded Zoe a snob for her Tesco comments. She evidently thinks people have the memory of a goldfish ).
Telling Sallie "your parents probably don't even like you". Again, I think Sallie is a horrible person, but that doesn't make Gina any better. (I remember hearing she also said something similar to a Hazel fan on Twitter).
Rushing around the house to tell everyone she's just experienced racism after Jemima's comments before even trying to deal with it rationally.
Gathering the group with the specific intent of exposing what some people said in their audition tapes to make people uncomfortable as if she's some sort of saint (and when it's a given that most people exaggerate in them).
Causing an issue with Jackie when she returned to find Jackie was now in her bed (a complete non-issue), which she was more than entitled to considering, as far as they knew, Gina was gone.
Being one of the people to gang up on Charlie the night of the friends and family nominations. Charlie was treated like utter **** that night by a few of them, of which Gina was one, and she was loving every minute of it like the spiteful piece of work she is.

She was a nasty, entitled, self-righteous bitch with zero self awareness whatsoever. She took a weird amount of pleasure out of making people feel uncomfortable yet was always first in line to seize the moral highground whenever she felt she was being wronged. One of the most overrated housemates in BB history as far as I'm concerned, and no amount of history-rewriting and excuses made for her will change that.



You can hardly lump all "Gina detractors" in together. I don't "seem to forget" anything. I never claimed she was awful 24/7, even Helen (who is probably my least favourite of all time) showed a softer side now and then. That doesn't erase all the bad stuff.

Gina wasn't horrible most of the time tho. It was the other way round for Gina, she was mostly nice who sometimes showed a nasty side

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I'm pretty sure we watched the same series. Evidently, the things I saw as horrible were things you had no problem with, so what discussion is there to be had? Any example I provide will just be met with excuses.

But, as you asked:

Mocking Sallie's footwear as "cheap Primark shoes": horrible to anybody who doesn't judge people based on where they shop. (And then the moron branded Zoe a snob for her Tesco comments. She evidently thinks people have the memory of a goldfish ).
Telling Sallie "your parents probably don't even like you". Again, I think Sallie is a horrible person, but that doesn't make Gina any better. (I remember hearing she also said something similar to a Hazel fan on Twitter).
Rushing around the house to tell everyone she's just experienced racism after Jemima's comments before even trying to deal with it rationally.
Gathering the group with the specific intent of exposing what some people said in their audition tapes to make people uncomfortable as if she's some sort of saint (and when it's a given that most people exaggerate in them).
Causing an issue with Jackie when she returned to find Jackie was now in her bed (a complete non-issue), which she was more than entitled to considering, as far as they knew, Gina was gone.
Being one of the people to gang up on Charlie the night of the friends and family nominations. Charlie was treated like utter **** that night by a few of them, of which Gina was one, and she was loving every minute of it like the spiteful piece of work she is.

She was a nasty, entitled, self-righteous bitch with zero self awareness whatsoever. She took a weird amount of pleasure out of making people feel uncomfortable yet was always first in line to seize the moral highground whenever she felt she was being wronged. One of the most overrated housemates in BB history as far as I'm concerned, and no amount of history-rewriting and excuses made for her will change that.

That was hilarious and in fact that is very different to what Zoe said, Gina attacked it's products while Zoe attacked people who worked for Tesco

Also hilarious but it was just an insult back at Sallie for saying she had bad skin, nothing to take seriously

Can't remember her rushing around the house and telling everybody?

Wouldn't class that as horrible vile behaviour

It doesn't matter if Jackie was in her bed, she was still an issue with Gina for saying something about her when she was gone?

lol wot I think you would fine that Hazel did the worse yet people wouldn't see that because she was still a "victim from the Daley stuff

I'm not caring for the last paragraphc because it's wrong in loads of ways

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

That was hilarious and in fact that is very different to what Zoe said, Gina attacked it's products while Zoe attacked people who worked for Tesco

And the barrel-scraping begins. Both are ridiculous, snobby comments that look down on people. And I found it far from hilarious.

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Also hilarious but it was just an insult back at Sallie for saying she had bad skin, nothing to take seriously

Gosh, the word "hilarious" sure is used liberally nowadays. And what Sallie said is irrelevent, she was horrible too. As I said, that doesn't make Gina any less so.

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Can't remember her rushing around the house and telling everybody?

"Guys, I think I've just experienced racism". To one people or ten, going saying that without even acting rationally to the situation is ridiculous. The fact that people still supported her after trivialising an issue like racism for attention and sympathy is unsettling, to say the least.

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Wouldn't class that as horrible vile behaviour

That's nice. I would.

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

It doesn't matter if Jackie was in her bed, she was still an issue with Gina for saying something about her when she was gone?

Ah yes, because Gina would never speak about anyone. Everyone says things about people, yet housemates like Gina (the forum sacred ones) somehow become exempt.

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

lol wot I think you would fine that Hazel did the worse yet people wouldn't see that because she was still a "victim from the Daley stuff

Did you miss the part where I acknowledged Hazel's role? We're discussing Gina are we not? If someone asked me to list Hazel's horrible moments, that would be at the top of the list. Again, someone else being involved doesn't lessen Gina's role. You asked me to provide examples of Gina being horrible, this was a major one.

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

I'm not caring for the last paragraphc because it's wrong in loads of ways

[Jason.]

People defending Gina, and excusing her vile behavior is just ridiculous in a laugh out loud way.

At least I admit the wrongs in my favourites.
I can't understand how you found Zoe's comment offensive, but not Gina's comment.
I just don't get it.

It's like liking Conor, but hating Daley. It doesn't make sense.

Why are the viewers these days so silly?

[Daniel.]

Her argument with Hazel

I still stan, but she was a cunt in that

[Pete.]

No she wasn't, she was the only one who stood up to homewrecker Hazel

[Samm]

She wasn't horrible there, Hazel was fighting back too with saying "you're ugly" etc

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

She wasn't horrible there, Hazel was fighting back too with saying "you're ugly" etc

How come Ashleigh wasn't vilified for retaliating towards Helen?
Honestly, the double standards on here is hysterical, and these two series were only a year apart.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by BB6

How come Ashleigh wasn't vilified for retaliating towards Helen?
Honestly, the double standards on here is hysterical, and these two series were only a year apart.

um not really, Helen started most of her feuds without any reason what so ever; Jale, Matthew, Chris? And Ashleigh maybe but I can't remember how that began

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

um not really, Helen started most of her feuds without any reason what so ever; Jale, Matthew, Chris? And Ashleigh maybe but I can't remember how that began

My point is Ashleigh retaliated. You seem to be pulling out the "two wrongs don't make a right" card in regards to Hazel.
What about Ashleigh?

Yes, Helen did instigate the fights.
So did Gina, towards her arguments with Hazel.
Don't you remember Gina starting the abuse, when both of them were drying their hair? Hazel didn't even say anything to start with.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by BB6

How come Ashleigh wasn't vilified for retaliating towards Helen?
Honestly, the double standards on here is hysterical, and these two series were only a year apart.

Hazel's supposed retaliation was telling Gina that she smelled and had ugly makeup, and it contradicted Hazel's whole character up until that point. Like, girl was strong enough to get through the Daley thing and being hated by the public for a month but then let Gina Rio of all people get under her skin?

As for Gina and Helen, Gina was funny and Helen was not.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Hazel's supposed retaliation was telling Gina that she smelled and had ugly makeup, and it contradicted Hazel's whole character up until that point. Like, girl was strong enough to get through the Daley thing and being hated by the public for a month but then let Gina Rio of all people get under her skin?

As for Gina and Helen, Gina was funny and Helen was not.

Gina goaded Hazel and eventually Hazel reacted. Ask anyone who has been bullied - you take so much and then you just fire off.

Gina was funny? not in my opinion but then I don't find humiliation terribly entertaining.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Hazel's supposed retaliation was telling Gina that she smelled and had ugly makeup, and it contradicted Hazel's whole character up until that point. Like, girl was strong enough to get through the Daley thing and being hated by the public for a month but then let Gina Rio of all people get under her skin?

As for Gina and Helen, Gina was funny and Helen was not.

And Gina's form of arguing was calling somebody a ***** based on a situation, which she was completely oblivious to.

Let me ask you this.
If Helen had said the same things Gina did, would you still have the same opinion?

Thought so.

In response to Gina being funny. Yes, if you like ignorant, attention-seeking, hypocrites. Oh yeah, she was a blast!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Gina goaded Hazel and eventually Hazel reacted. Ask anyone who has been bullied - you take so much and then you just fire off.

Gina was funny? not in my opinion but then I don't find humiliation terribly entertaining.

Like I said, Hazel's whole character through this point was the unflappable ice queen. She got through the stuff with Daley remarkably well, she wasn't concerned with the public making her wear a snake costume for days on end for a task, but then she let Gina Rio be the one to break her? Yeah it's not a good look for me, especially when your style of arguing is repeating yourself over and over again and repeating what the other person said over and over.

Gina was hilarious, and for the record I'm not talking about during the Hazel thing (which I'm guessing is what you're referencing to with talk of humiliation.) They both came off as badly as each other, but it wasn't a surprise with Gina. She's a cartoon character and literally looks like something Jim Henson created, while like I said Hazel's reaction was a complete contradiction to her character. It really doesn't matter though, because Gina spent the whole week dressed like a queen while administering physical pain to Hazel and ordering her around (a week which culminated in Hazel's eviction), so the winner of that rivalry really had nothing to do with what was said in the bedroom that one morning.

Originally Posted by BB6

And Gina's form of arguing was calling somebody a ***** based on a situation, which she was completely oblivious to.

Let me ask you this.
If Helen had said the same things Gina did, will you still have the same opinion?

Thought so.

In response to Gina being funny. Yes, if you like ignorant, attention-seeking, hypocrites. Oh yeah, she was a blast!

Judging by your taste in housemates, I'm not surprised.

Like I said, Gina's a cartoon character so how she acted in the situation wasn't anything expected from her. She's not meant to be taken seriously. Hazel's actions were a huge departure from her character and it was disappointing, mainly because she absolutely sucks at arguing. I have no clue what you're trying to get at with Gina and Helen because they really aren't anything alike so.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Regardless of how horrible Gina was or was not, most of those instances you listed were actually funny so