[Lampfan]

I still love it though

[Stormy]

To answer your question. I would say that I like Hopkins. To give you some background about me, I didn't know the history of a single person in the house at the beginning of the show. In fact, I had only heard of two housemates...Patsy (because I watched Lethal Weapon) and Perez (who I thought was a harmless fashion blogger...boy was I wrong!!!!).

No, I absolutely don't think Hopkins is infallible and I absolutely disagree with a lot of her view points (in fact some of them disgust me). However, I do like Hopkins, in the house, because;

1. She doesn't pretend to take a moral high ground...she says what she believes and, right or wrong, makes no excuses for it.
2. She is not offended or rattled by any criticism by any of the housemates...she can take as good as she gets.
3. When Perez went mental the first few days and made the housemates extremely uncomfortable, everyone else was too timid/scared to deal with him...she stepped up and had the balls to stand up to him, when no one else did. It calmed him down, but she took the brunt of it and is still paying for it now, while the other housemates who dislike Perez hid behind her.
4. Her interactions with Alicia...while I don't agree with how rude she was to her, in the end she forced Alicia to be stronger...and...instead of being angry when Alicia finally stood up to her and rightfully called her a gob ****e...Hopkins not only didn't get angry, but she gave Alicia her full respect for doing so.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by Stormy

To answer your question. I would say that I like Hopkins. To give you some background about me, I didn't know the history of a single person in the house at the beginning of the show. In fact, I had only heard of two housemates...Patsy (because I watched Lethal Weapon) and Perez (who I thought was a harmless fashion blogger...boy was I wrong!!!!).

No, I absolutely don't think Hopkins is infallible and I absolutely disagree with a lot of her view points (in fact some of them disgust me). However, I do like Hopkins, in the house, because;

1. She doesn't pretend to take a moral high ground...she says what she believes and, right or wrong, makes no excuses for it.
2. She is not offended or rattled by any criticism by any of the housemates...she can take as good as she gets.
3. When Perez went mental the first few days and made the housemates extremely uncomfortable, everyone else was too timid/scared to deal with him...she stepped up and had the balls to stand up to him, when no one else did. It calmed him down, but she took the brunt of it and is still paying for it now, while the other housemates who dislike Perez hid behind her.
4. Her interactions with Alicia...while I don't agree with how rude she was to her, in the end she forced Alicia to be stronger...and...instead of being angry when Alicia finally stood up to her and rightfully called her a gob ****e...Hopkins not only didn't get angry, but she gave Alicia her full respect for doing so.

Good reasons, ones I all agree with.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Stormy

To answer your question. I would say that I like Hopkins. To give you some background about me, I didn't know the history of a single person in the house at the beginning of the show. In fact, I had only heard of two housemates...Patsy (because I watched Lethal Weapon) and Perez (who I thought was a harmless fashion blogger...boy was I wrong!!!!).

No, I absolutely don't think Hopkins is infallible and I absolutely disagree with a lot of her view points (in fact some of them disgust me). However, I do like Hopkins, in the house, because;

1. She doesn't pretend to take a moral high ground...she says what she believes and, right or wrong, makes no excuses for it.
2. She is not offended or rattled by any criticism by any of the housemates...she can take as good as she gets.
3. When Perez went mental the first few days and made the housemates extremely uncomfortable, everyone else was too timid/scared to deal with him...she stepped up and had the balls to stand up to him, when no one else did. It calmed him down, but she took the brunt of it and is still paying for it now, while the other housemates who dislike Perez hid behind her.
4. Her interactions with Alicia...while I don't agree with how rude she was to her, in the end she forced Alicia to be stronger...and...instead of being angry when Alicia finally stood up to her and rightfully called her a gob ****e...Hopkins not only didn't get angry, but she gave Alicia her full respect for doing so.

I can also respect your point of view though I don't agree with it. I think she has a lot of influence on the others and I don't like how they are starting to gang up on Cheggers whose only crime seems to be being a nice man. She picked on Alicia and now she is picking on Cheggers. There is starting to be a lot of eye rolling when walks past or speaks, to me that isnt being a straight talker, thats being nasty for the sake of it. She does take the moral high ground, she thinks she is right.

I do think this is a very interesting conversation to have with those willing to answer the questions I posed.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I can also respect your point of view though I don't agree with it. I think she has a lot of influence on the others and I don't like how they are starting to gang up on Cheggers whose only crime seems to be being a nice man. She picked on Alicia and now she is picking on Cheggers. She does take the moral high ground, she thinks she is right.

I do think this is a very interesting conversation to have with those willing to answer the questions I posed.

I totally agree with you on the Cheggers point. He is a sweetheart and I hate how Hopkins goads him to speak out and pretty much stresses him out. I also hated how Perez added fuel to the fire by instigating the fight between Cheggers and Hopkins. Then pretends he's his biggest supporter just so he could try to win another ally against Hopkins. Both Hopkins and Perez are trying to get him to jump off the fence and join them. I wish they would just leave the poor man alone. At his age, he's earned his dues. If he wants to be Switzerland, good on him!!!!

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Stormy

I totally agree with you on the Cheggers point. He is a sweetheart and I hate how Hopkins goads him to speak out and pretty much stresses him out. I also hated how Perez added fuel to the fire by instigating the fight between Cheggers and Hopkins. Then pretends he's his biggest supporter just so he could try to win another ally against Hopkins. Both Hopkins and Perez are trying to get him to jump off the fence and join them. I wish they would just leave the poor man alone. At his age, he's earned his dues. If he wants to be Switzerland, good on him!!!!

Well done. It is not often that i see a post such as this on here.

[Stormy]

That was a loooong read ...whewww...but well worth it. Good points and I totally agree.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Stormy

That was a loooong read ...whewww...but well worth it. Good points and I totally agree.

I was going to add a 6th but I need a pee

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Stormy

To answer your question. I would say that I like Hopkins. To give you some background about me, I didn't know the history of a single person in the house at the beginning of the show. In fact, I had only heard of two housemates...Patsy (because I watched Lethal Weapon) and Perez (who I thought was a harmless fashion blogger...boy was I wrong!!!!).

No, I absolutely don't think Hopkins is infallible and I absolutely disagree with a lot of her view points (in fact some of them disgust me). However, I do like Hopkins, in the house, because;

1. She doesn't pretend to take a moral high ground...she says what she believes and, right or wrong, makes no excuses for it.
2. She is not offended or rattled by any criticism by any of the housemates...she can take as good as she gets.
3. When Perez went mental the first few days and made the housemates extremely uncomfortable, everyone else was too timid/scared to deal with him...she stepped up and had the balls to stand up to him, when no one else did. It calmed him down, but she took the brunt of it and is still paying for it now, while the other housemates who dislike Perez hid behind her.
4. Her interactions with Alicia...while I don't agree with how rude she was to her, in the end she forced Alicia to be stronger...and...instead of being angry when Alicia finally stood up to her and rightfully called her a gob ****e...Hopkins not only didn't get angry, but she gave Alicia her full respect for doing so.

1 - aka "tells it like it is" = nobody gives a ****... keep it shut once in a while you megalomaniac

2 - she only picks on the easy targets. When faced hard up with Nadia she left. All she had to offer was little snide whispers.

3- peresz was being annoying, she didnt fucing take a stand... she told everyone to isolate a person... posh bullying little bitch

4 - oh, i suppose its ok then... apart from calling her simple who has 1 brain cell... dont talk ****e

5 - I'm posh and doing this for school fees (bull****) why are you using money for your disabled son?

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

1 - aka "tells it like it is" = nobody gives a ****... keep it shut once in a while you megalomaniac That's your opinion, I personally find it refreshing...neither of us is wrong...just a preference

2 - she only picks on the easy targets. When faced hard up with Nadia she left. All she had to offer was little snide whispers. Nadia, Nadia, Nadia...she's certainly likes her hysterics...impossible to have a decent argument with as she tends to go into hysterics and just yell and scream over anything you say. Anyone with any intelligence would walk away from an argument when the other person has stopped listening and started shouting. There's no point to continue, really.

3- peresz was being annoying, she didnt fucing take a stand... she told everyone to isolate a person... posh bullying little bitchShe took a stand towards Perez before the "isolate" comment. Her wanting to isolate Perez was a reaction to Perez bullying Alexander out of the house....but I will agree that it was petty and stupid and she should have never said it.

4 - oh, i suppose its ok then... apart from calling her simple who has 1 brain cell... dont talk ****e. Read my comment again. I never said it was ok for her to talk to Alicia that way. It was they way she reacted to Alicia fighting back that was my point.

5 - I'm posh and doing this for school fees (bull****) why are you using money for your disabled son?

Didn't know she had a disabled son nor do I know what that has to do with my comments...either way, I take what every housemate says is their reason for being on CBB with a grain of salt...Hopkins included.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Didn't know she had a disabled son nor do I know what that has to do with my comments...either way, I take what every housemate says is their reason for being on CBB with a grain of salt...Hopkins included.

Im not after you. I just dont like Hopkins.

She knew this show was made for her and i just like that Perez annoys her. Cami, Kav, Calum, Chloe, and most disappointingly, Michelle have sucked her asshole cause they wanted to be popular. Sad.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

Im not after you. I just dont like Hopkins.

She knew this show was made for her and i just like that Perez annoys her. Cami, Kav, Calum, Chloe, and most disappointingly, Michelle have sucked her asshole cause they wanted to be popular. Sad.

I kind of agree with you...here's my take.

Cami, Calum and Chloe line up behind Hopkins because they dislike Perez....and Nadia, Alicia and to some degree Patsy, line up behind Perez because they dislike Hopkins.

I think Kav and Michelle sucked up to Hopkins because of the crowd response and to be popular.

[Lampfan]

She is a ****ing prick

[Lampfan]

why in gods name did you quoute that

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

why in gods name did you quoute that

Because I can?

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

why in gods name did you quoute that

My apologies...thought it would be easier to rebut...but it was a bad idea!!!

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Katie Hopkins clearly has some popularity and I have to confess I'm perplexed. Am I watching the same show as people who love her? I don't see that her behaviour is better than Perez who I am also not a fan.

If you are a Katie Hopkins fan, what do you like about her, what specifically has she done or said that makes her shine in your eyes? Or do you like her more because you dislike Perez and she is in conflict with him?

its called blinkers - her fans think it is amazing to say what we are thinking when infarct he is embarrassing herself.

katie my darling - lost all credibility - not that you had much.