[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Perhaps it's because old people actually have life experience and have been directly impacted by the EU?

These are people who have direct experience from before and after the European Union. They have lived through the EU's effect on their lives - and they can see how it's going.

My point was not that they had not life experience at all but when it was their futures they were voting on, they voted 'in' and were probably over the moon the rest of the Nation backed them by 2 to 1 then too.

This time even with the young of today, like them in 1975, being pro being in the EU by a likely strong margin, they voted for themselves and not the futures of said young of the Nation.

Those who did that,it's their right to do so and vote as they wish but it doesn't alter my point that they wanted different for themselves in 1975.
Which most young of today wanted what they'd had and got in 1975 for them, here in 2016..

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My point was not that they had not life experience at all but when it was their futures they were voting on, they voted 'in' and were probably over the moon the rest of the Nation backed them by 2 to 1 then too.

This time even with the young of today, like them in 1975, being pro being in the EU by a likely strong margin, they voted for themselves and not the futures of said young of the Nation.

Those who did that,it's their right to do so and vote as they wish but it doesn't alter my point that they wanted different for themselves in 1975.
Which most young of today wanted what they'd had and got in 1975 for them, here in 2016..

Not quite sure how old is old in this instance.
There is absolutely no way of knowing if the older generation that have voted this time even bothered voting last time never mind if they actually voted the opposite to last time, so it's a rather big assumption Joey.
Back in the seventies there was no internet and not that much telly to be honest, apart from the very boring party political broadcasts at the time or the news, I wonder if the youngsters of the day were anywhere near as interested in it as they are now.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Not quite sure how old is old in this instance.
There is absolutely no way of knowing if the older generation that have voted this time even bothered voting last time never mind if they actually voted the opposite to last time, so it's a rather big assumption Joey.
Back in the seventies there was no internet and not that much telly to be honest, apart from the very boring party political broadcasts at the time or the news, I wonder if the youngsters of the day were anywhere near as interested in it as they are now.

I am not assuming anything and I don't do so either.

The news has presented that according to findings, the young that voted did so by around 70% to 30% to stay in.
Also that the older voters over 65 voted around 65% to 35% to leave.

The campaigning team I was part of, the findings there,over 1500 in fact, of talking to people at their doors and at the street stalls are in line with those figures.

I never assume anything, I came across hundreds myself who had voted yes in 1975 who were going to vote leave this time.

However I think even ignoring my own experiences of campaigning and any other means,even just dismissing that work as nonsense.
It was clearly and widely reported daily on the news, the daily politics,the sunday politics and question time programmes,that the more older voters were more for leave and the younger voters for remain.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Not quite sure how old is old in this instance.
There is absolutely no way of knowing if the older generation that have voted this time even bothered voting last time never mind if they actually voted the opposite to last time, so it's a rather big assumption Joey.
Back in the seventies there was no internet and not that much telly to be honest, apart from the very boring party political broadcasts at the time or the news, I wonder if the youngsters of the day were anywhere near as interested in it as they are now.

Some good points Smudgie. As you say, we did not have internet back then, but the 'young' people today have, and most of them are very skilled in using it.

Which is one of the things which annoyed me about some young people moaning before the EU Referendum that they 'could not find any information' and were 'confused'. There are hundreds of thousands of pages on the internet about the EU - googling brings them all up.

I bet they would not be confused about where to find information on the latest video game or what style of weaves Paris Hilton is curently wearing - their little fingers would be googling at the speed of light.

[Dollface]

Oh look, Tibb's resident whites-hater, right on time.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Oh look, Tibb's resident whites-hater, right on time.

No you're late. Been here all night.

Is that my name? I love white people

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can absolutely guarantee that it was ALL about stopping immigration for significantly more than the 4% swing vote... So, the fact that it wasn't about that for every leave voter is largely irrelevant. Fear of brown faces swung the leave victory, for 100% certain, as those campaigning for it knew it would (hence hamming up the stats for months).

Well, I'm not pretending to know a large majority of people. I was being told why I voted and simply refuted it.

[Cal.]

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

THIS is why cal is amazing

(also i 100% agree with you that the green party should lead)

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Dollface

THIS is why cal is amazing

(also i 100% agree with you that the green party should lead)

Yaaas

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

Birds from abroad? I will shoot them.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

Cal for Prime Minister tbh

I do think though that all the worrying about the result is a bit premature. I'm not trying to shut anyone down but there's no way of knowing what the long term impact will be yet.

[letmein]

And France will now get to ship all the illegals in ironically. lol

[Tom4784]

Like with the last election, I look forward to how quickly people will change their tune when they realise they've made a terrible mistake. Facebook shall be fun.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Like with the last election, I look forward to how quickly people will change their tune when they realise they've made a terrible mistake. Facebook shall be fun.

i think looking to facebook to gauge the political pulse of the UK could be your problem..

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i think looking to facebook to gauge the political pulse of the UK could be your problem..

And I think making bad assumptions in order to present yourself as tepidly funny may be yours.

I'm not gauging anything on facebook, I'm just looking forward to the fumes of the ignorant when they've realised they've done goofed. Should have been obvious to anyone that's what I meant...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And I think making bad assumptions in order to present yourself as tepidly funny may be yours.

I'm not gauging anything on facebook, I'm just looking forward to the fumes of the ignorant when they've realised they've done goofed.

thats right Di
ezzy

call people who dont agree with you ignorant


thank fck your not a mod..

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thats right Di
ezzy

call people who dont agree with you ignorant


thank fck your not a mod..

When did I say that? Again you're making assumptions.

If you've seen any of my posts in the past about the EU debacle on Facebook then you know that a lot of people I have on facebook are the typically racist leavers that give people like you a bad name.

It's not my fault you keep tarring yourself with the same brush in a desperate attempt to undermine me.

[AnnieK]

My son was very worried this morning when he asked if we had left the EU and I told him we had. He thought we would have to move now. Then he looked outside and said...oh it's ok mummy, were still here. I wish I had his innocence and optimism.

[Jord]

Gutted.

But that Scotland vote tho

[Beso]

OMG.
There's a lot of non conservatives sounding like a bunch of sneering tories and it's only page two. What a laugh.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

OMG.
There's a lot of non conservatives sounding like a bunch of sneering tories.

I know, right.

[DemolitionRed]

FFS exchange rates are not a contest. A fall in the GBP means the uks exports will be cheaper and stimulate the economy.

As for investors, they are like lemmings, they follow trends so as not to stand out of line and scare others. The markets dipped as expected but as soon as Mark Carney gave a little reassurance they started bouncing back because opportunities are always looked for on stock markets. There will be a few bumps along the road but life will go on; so please stop this chicken licken nonsense that the sky is falling in because a few hours of very volatile trading of currencies and stocks does not give you or me any clue about our future economy.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

FFS exchange rates are not a contest. A fall in the GBP means the uks exports will be cheaper and stimulate the economy.

As for investors, they are like lemmings, they follow trends so as not to stand out of line and scare others. The markets dipped as expected but as soon as Mark Carney gave a little reassurance they started bouncing back because opportunities are always looked for on stock markets. There will be a few bumps along the road but life will go on; so please stop this chicken licken nonsense that the sky is falling in because a few hours of very volatile trading of currencies and stocks does not give you or me any clue about our future economy.

[Josy]

Delighted