[Alf]

You mean the one that played for Hearts in the 80s and 90s, don't you? The one who joined Newcastle for a while?

[Alf]

Of course Jocky Wilson wasn't number 1, he played darts.

1

Sir Kenny Dalglish
(King Kenny)

(Celtic, Liverpool)

Youtube video

[Alf]

Perhaps Adam could explain to us the goalkeeping in the second goal of that Dalglish video?

[Alf]

OK, the greatest 100 England players of all time is next.


Here's "The Lion of Vienna" as a preview. Annie's dad will enjoy that one.

Youtube video

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

OK, the greatest 100 England players of all time is next.


Here's "The Lion of Vienna" as a preview. Annie's dad will enjoy that one.

Youtube video

As long as these are in the top five ..

In randomness order ..

Le Tissier
Glen Hoddle
Gazza
Chris Waddle
Jack Grealish



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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As long as these are in the top five ..

In randomness order ..

Le Tissier
Glen Hoddle
Gazza
Chris Waddle
Jack Grealish



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Le Tiss - Technically a genius, couldn't tackle, couldn't head, lazy as they come, speed of a tortoise. Probably not.

Gazza - Of course. Genius wise, he'll probably make the top 3, career wise, he'd probably feature lower down. He hindered his career big time in the 91 FA Cup final, he never came back the same player, he lost that yard of pace.

Same thing happened with Michael Owen. From the age of 17 - 22 he was the best player in the World for me. Then when he got a bad injury and lost his biggest weapon, his pace, he was finished.

Waddle - I've played against him, legend.

Grealish - Too early for him.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Le Tiss - Technically a genius, couldn't tackle, couldn't head, lazy as they come, speed of a tortoise. Probably not.

Gazza - Of course. Genius wise, he'll probably make the top 3, career wise, he'd probably feature lower down. He hindered his career big time in the 91 FA Cup final, he never came back the same player, he lost that yard of pace.

Same thing happened with Michael Owen. From the age of 17 - 22 he was the best player in the World for me. Then when he got a bad injury and lost his biggest weapon, his pace, he was finished.

Waddle - I've played against him, legend.

Grealish - Too early for him.

.... and Glen Hoddle ??

Best passer of a ball I’ve ever seen and he was 100% two footed

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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

.... and Glen Hoddle ??

Best passer of a ball I’ve ever seen and he was 100% two footed

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Again, probably amongst the elite of England players going by the standard of technically gifted, he probably didn't achieve the success in his career that someone of his talent should have, maybe attitude was his downfall?

Bryan Robson didn't have the technical ability of Hoddle, but Robson was head and shoulders above Hoddle as a player.

[Alf]

I never got around to doing the greatest English players of all time. Do you want that?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

I never got around to doing the greatest English players of all time. Do you want that?

Yes !


How far back do you want to go though ?


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yes !


How far back do you want to go though ?


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Post WW2. Which means I have to leave Dixie Dean out. But he would have obviously been number 1 if I went back further.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Post WW2. Which means I have to leave Dixie Dean out. But he would have obviously been number 1 if I went back further.

Fair enough

My earliest memories of amazing English footballers would probably be Jimmy Greaves


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[Beso]

My Darren fletcher joke deserved better.

[Beso]

Lol...

https://youtu.be/U0ePoJxluXs?si=yuHvEcxEvb1IEHji

And that's just hearts.

Goram and Leighton could never.....

[Alf]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol...

https://youtu.be/U0ePoJxluXs?si=yuHvEcxEvb1IEHji

And that's just hearts.

Goram and Leighton could never.....

Show me his highlights in big Champions league games against the best players and teams in the World. Not his saves against Raith rovers and Clydebank.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Alf

Show me his highlights in big Champions league games against the best players and teams in the World. Not his saves against Raith rovers and Clydebank.

I cant watch this video, but there must be loads from his time at celtic with their annual European adventures.

https://youtu.be/GjhRu09vXsw?si=pqPFNTH7biKByfG4


Craig gordan is THE GOAT.

[Beso]

One for celtic..or 2...

https://youtu.be/iRlOpQBzrAs?si=w3keL6APXjDUKWD7

[Alf]

Watch Goram against the then English champions Leeds United and in Old firm games.

Youtube video

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Alf

Watch Goram against the then English champions Leeds United and in Old firm games.

Youtube video

Pity drink cost him years in the game and not tragic injuries at the most unfortunate times like Gordan and his limb breaks.

Only thing goram broke was good friendships with everyone who came across him.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Pity drink cost him years in the game and not tragic injuries at the most unfortunate times like Gordan and his limb breaks.

Only thing goram broke was good friendships with everyone who came across him.

Drink cost George Best. But George Best is still one of the greatest players the World has ever seen. Ditto Alex Higgins in Snooker.

[Alf]

If I do do a Best English players countdown, you will be disappointed that not many players of your lifetimes feature highly. England just haven't produced the talents over the past 40 years like they used to. A bit like Scotland really.

The top ten will likely be filled with players from the 50s and 60s. I probably couldn't even put Gascoigne or Rooney in the top 10.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Alf

If I do do a Best English players countdown, you will be disappointed that not many players of your lifetimes feature highly. England just haven't produced the talents over the past 40 years like they used to. A bit like Scotland really.

The top ten will likely be filled with players from the 50s and 60s. I probably couldn't even put Gascoigne or Rooney in the top 10.

Zzzzz, england.


Your scottish list needs updated.

https://youtu.be/xufR0RELRxQ?si=PO0xG6143mCt3CxE

[Alf]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Zzzzz, england.


Your scottish list needs updated.

https://youtu.be/xufR0RELRxQ?si=PO0xG6143mCt3CxE

Still no place for Craig Levin, John Robertson or Craig Gordon.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Alf

Still no place for Craig Levin, John Robertson or Craig Gordon.

I'd have john McGinn in there now.

[Beso]

And mctomminay.