[AnnieK]

I don't even understand why where it came from is an issue, any racial abuse is just that abuse. Whether a lot came from overseas or not, some abuse came from England and supposed England "fans". It should not be tolerated, excused or brushed aside as "most came from elsewhere" as if that somehow makes it ok.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I don't even understand why where it came from is an issue, any racial abuse is just that abuse. Whether a lot came from overseas or not, some abuse came from England and supposed England "fans". It should not be tolerated, excused or brushed aside as "most came from elsewhere" as if that somehow makes it ok.

Its a crucial distinction in exposing these people with multiple accounts and finding out if enemy countries are sowing discord just as Russia has done on countless occasions but its the responsibility of the Platform who make Billions of DOllars from advertising to stop this. I have not heard today of any brand saying they will stop using Instagram until they sort this out?

[Ammi]

…well we’re not looking like a ‘model to the world’ now in terms of this racism against our football team and trying to divert glances elsewhere to avoid addressing it…the first step is to acknowledge it and stop looking around us at other countries and their contribution to what is here…because that’s what it is…it’s contributing to something that’s an issue right here that needs addressing …as has been stated, this won’t be the first time, or the second time or the third time that some football players have had racism directed at them…it’s a ‘daily basis’ thing in the football world …and that’s what needs to be looked at…the racism within our own society which exists ‘on a daily basis’ and in all of those ares that it’s become an issue like this…

[Tom4784]

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[michael21]

There a big problem that for sure but we don't have the government that need to take action maybe in 200 or 300 hundred years that will chages

[Smithy]

A good % of football supports are racist thugs, so sadly it’s no surprise

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

A good % of football supports are racist thugs, so sadly it’s no surprise

Correct, there are heavy links between football hooliganism and aggressive English nationalism. Fans of the sport "for the sport" often like to pretend that this is not the case - just as some Scottish football fans would like to pretend that the sectarian tensions between Rangers and Celtic are no longer an issue... but, sadly, both simply are still rampant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Correct, there are heavy links between football hooliganism and aggressive English nationalism. Fans of the sport "for the sport" often like to pretend that this is not the case - just as some Scottish football fans would like to pretend that the sectarian tensions between Rangers and Celtic are no longer an issue... but, sadly, both simply are still rampant.

LOL

If you can find a single Scottish football fan who thinks sectarian tensions between Rangers and Celtic are no longer an issue then i will be amazed.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I don't even understand why where it came from is an issue, any racial abuse is just that abuse. Whether a lot came from overseas or not, some abuse came from England and supposed England "fans". It should not be tolerated, excused or brushed aside as "most came from elsewhere" as if that somehow makes it ok.

Of course it is an issue, like what is the agenda here? I note neither Sky nor the BBC are actually reporting that any of it has come from abroad, for example did black players on the Netherlands team get abusive messages when they crashed out of the Euros because if they didn't and this is aimed only at black English players then there is something else going on imo

and yes we get some English fans are rabid, but it is a very small percentage, just the same as some United fans are rabid but you wouldn't tar all with the same brush

[Crimson Dynamo]

A report found that 14 Premier League players were subjected to abusive
behaviour in the build up to, and on, the final day of the Premier League season
and evidence will be handed over to the UK Football Policing Unit and
Professional Footballers' Association




The owners of 10 accounts have been identified as racially
abusing one Premier League player: three accounts created in Asia, three
accounts in Africa, two accounts in the Middle East and two accounts in the
UK.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...ue-footballers

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Of course it is an issue, like what is the agenda here? I note neither Sky nor the BBC are actually reporting that any of it has come from abroad, for example did black players on the Netherlands team get abusive messages when they crashed out of the Euros because if they didn't and this is aimed only at black English players then there is something else going on imo

and yes we get some English fans are rabid, but it is a very small percentage, just the same as some United fans are rabid but you wouldn't tar all with the same brush

Who's tarring them all with the same brush? I know its a very small proportion of england fans but the fact is there are still people purporting to be fans who racially abuse our players in England. The defacing of Rashfords mural wasn't done by anyone overseas, sadly it was done by some racist Mancs as much that pains me to say. There are issues in this country that still need dealing with.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Who's tarring them all with the same brush? I know its a very small proportion of england fans but the fact is there are still people purporting to be fans who racially abuse our players in England. The defacing of Rashfords mural wasn't done by anyone overseas, sadly it was done by some racist Mancs as much that pains me to say. There are issues in this country that still need dealing with.

I never said otherwise but people seem to think abuse from abroad shouldn’t be discussed, why is that

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

A report found that 14 Premier League players were subjected to abusive
behaviour in the build up to, and on, the final day of the Premier League season
and evidence will be handed over to the UK Football Policing Unit and
Professional Footballers' Association




The owners of 10 accounts have been identified as racially
abusing one Premier League player: three accounts created in Asia, three
accounts in Africa, two accounts in the Middle East and two accounts in the
UK.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...ue-footballers

In one instance, an offensive account handle - which is known to Sky Sports News - remains active on Twitter.

And herein lies one of the problems

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The abuse is disgusting. People are actually horrific if they try to take Marcus' achievements for under privileged children away from him after a missed ****ing penalty. Says far more about the people saying these things than anything else

Anyone would think he's the only footballer to miss a penality in the history of football, I remember other players like Beckham etc missing a penality.

The racist abuse is disgusting but I knew people would resort to this vile behaviour just over football.
They don't deserve this treatment .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Anyone would think he's the only footballer to miss a penality in the history of football, I remember other players like Beckham etc missing a penality.

The racist abuse is disgusting but I knew people would resort to this vile behaviour just over football.
They don't deserve this treatment .

Beckham got dogs abuse for ages after that miss

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Beckham got dogs abuse for ages after that miss

yeah, its what i was trying to say earlier. It's the abuse in this case thats the fundamental problem, they are just refining that abuse to hurt the recipient even more and in last nights case, that meant it being racial.

[Amy Jade]

Its so gross. I think it's time the trolls were caught and banned from using social media and given fines.

[Marsh.]

"But... but... what about the racists abroad".

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"But... but... what about the racists abroad".

Who are targetting Black English players, any ideas why that might be?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Its so gross. I think it's time the trolls were caught and banned from using social media and given fines.

Yes and fines for the social media platforms for not putting safeguards in place..

[Alf]

No doubt about it, the football team has divided the country.

[Tom4784]

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[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nah, just the racist scum and those that will defend them by downplaying their actions. Victim blaming is for flops.

Listen, the story was obvious. If we won the story was, we couldn't have done this without diversity, if we lost the story would be how you now see it, it's all the racists fault. Both the narratives were ready to go, they just needed to wait for the result.

[Tom4784]

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