[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well he doesn't have a phone number and maybe he has written letters and they have not responded so he is just plugging away.... we dont know what his state of mind is, he has had a stroke, its very easy to pontifcate from the sidelines sometimes when you are in the middle of something you cant see the wood for the trees


They told us all to be kind....obviously doenst apply to her

Be kind shouldn't mean be fake though.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You do realise that you're saying that Meghan should make the effort to fix her relationship with her Father, when it's the Father that's badmouthing her right? Why shouldn't he be trying to make amends with Meghan?

Hi Mock, I’ll repeat my post from earlier today.
Mr. Markle was an ordinary elderly man living a quiet life when he was caught up in extraordinary circumstances. She had never even brought Harry to meet him, he was inundated with paps around his home and given no help.
He made the mistake of agreeing to be photographed doing tame things with a photographer Meghan later used herself) and which didn’t seem to have been malicious, and for which he apologised for and he gets cut off....forever! Yes he has unwisely spoken about her to the media since out of frustration but that wasn't why he was cut off in the first place.

The reason he has given interviews is to plead with her to get in touch and let him see his grandchildren because she has refused to take any of his calls or answer his texts or letters. This hasn’t helped his cause. He hasn’t said anything awful about her, but he can’t understand why a previously loving daughter has changed so much towards him.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

Hi Mock, I’ll repeat my post from earlier today.
Mr. Markle was an ordinary elderly man living a quiet life when he was caught up in extraordinary circumstances. She had never even brought Harry to meet him, he was inundated with paps around his home and given no help.
He made the mistake of agreeing to be photographed doing tame things with a photographer Meghan later used herself) and which didn’t seem to have been malicious, and for which he apologised for and he gets cut off....forever! Yes he has unwisely spoken about her to the media since out of frustration but that wasn't why he was cut off in the first place.

The reason he has given interviews is to plead with her to get in touch and let him see his grandchildren because she has refused to take any of his calls or answer his texts or letters. This hasn’t helped his cause. He hasn’t said anything awful about her, but he can’t understand why a previously loving daughter has changed so much towards him.

There's two things I want to say on this.

1. Going to the Media isn't going to heal his relationship with his Daughter.

2. We don't really know what their relationship was like before all of the Media fallout, maybe it's always been a strained relationship? We'll never know.

And hello Jet, I hope that you've been having a great day.

[rusticgal]

Both Meghan and her father have used the media for their own gain…Meghans father has used them as a way of connecting with Meghan which she clearly has no want of doing.
Meghan on the other hand has used the Media to annihilate her husbands family…but was happy to be there in the public spotlight at the Queens deathbed and her funeral playing ‘happy families’….
She has nothing negative to say regarding her own father but clearly refuses to have anything to do with him
On record before her marriage she had nothing but good things to say about him..why don’t we hear about what he has done that bought her to this because she clearly had no restraint exposing the appalling behaviour of Harry’s family but still seemed happy to be in the mix on highly momentous Royal occasions….

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Both Meghan and her father have used the media for their own gain…Meghans father has used them as a way of connecting with Meghan which she clearly has no want of doing.
Meghan on the other hand has used the Media to annihilate her husbands family…but was happy to be there in the public spotlight at the Queens deathbed and her funeral playing ‘happy families’….
She has nothing negative to say regarding her own father but clearly refuses to have anything to do with him
On record before her marriage she had nothing but good things to say about him..why don’t we hear about what he has done that bought her to this because she clearly had no restraint exposing the appalling behaviour of Harry’s family but still seemed happy to be in the mix on highly momentous Royal occasions….

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There's two things I want to say on this.

1. Going to the Media isn't going to heal his relationship with his Daughter.

2. We don't really know what their relationship was like before all of the Media fallout, maybe it's always been a strained relationship? We'll never know.

1. I agree and I already acknowledged that.

2. I’m sure their life together wasn’t always perfection, especially when Doria left Meghan with her father to bring up alone as a young teenager, which he did for 7 years.
There isn’t a shred of evidence that maybe they always had a strained relationship so that is an unfair assumption to make.
On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that he was a very good father. There are other TIG blogs by Meghan, apart from the one I posted upthread, that sings his praises. He was her inspiration, her support, her rock, he taught her so much - all her own words.

Not one friend or family member from either Thomas or Doria’s side has ever indicated he was anything but a doting father. Not one.
So, from what we know thus far, the ‘maybe’s are nothing but wishful thinking to make excuses for Meghan dumping him like a piece of old garbage.
.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's a fair point with Harry as it's his family.
The same can be said for William too when he got one of his servants to spread negative gossip about H&M.

How do you know this? What was the gossip William is supposed to have spread...

In comparsion, we know what Harry has said because it came from his own mouth or is in his book.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Both Meghan and her father have used the media for their own gain…Meghans father has used them as a way of connecting with Meghan which she clearly has no want of doing.
Meghan on the other hand has used the Media to annihilate her husbands family…but was happy to be there in the public spotlight at the Queens deathbed and her funeral playing ‘happy families’….
She has nothing negative to say regarding her own father but clearly refuses to have anything to do with him
On record before her marriage she had nothing but good things to say about him..why don’t we hear about what he has done that bought her to this because she clearly had no restraint exposing the appalling behaviour of Harry’s family but still seemed happy to be in the mix on highly momentous Royal occasions….

Meghan publicly being negative about the Royal Family isn't the same as a family member publicly slagging off another family member imo.

That's more of a Harry & William thing to do.

I get that Meghan does like the limelight (after all she is in Showbiz) but I think from what info that I'm getting in this debacle with her Father makes him look terrible, and I can't help but feel that if he was doing this to someone other than Meghan that we wouldn't even be having people seriously debating his scummy behaviour towards his own Daughter.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

1. I agree and I already acknowledged that.

2. I’m sure their life together wasn’t always perfection, especially when Doria left Meghan with her father to bring up alone as a young teenager, which he did for 7 years.
There isn’t a shred of evidence that maybe they always had a strained relationship so that is an unfair assumption to make.
On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that he was a very good father. There are other TIG blogs by Meghan, apart from the one I posted upthread, that sings his praises. He was her inspiration, her support, her rock, he taught her so much - all her own words.

Not one friend or family member from either Thomas or Doria’s side has ever indicated he was anything but a doting father. Not one.
So, from what we know thus far, the ‘maybe’s are nothing but wishful thinking to make excuses for Meghan dumping him like a piece of old garbage.
.

Oh because she could just be being a bitch tbf, I'm just offering the other side that isn't really being looked at by some people, which is that Meghan could have always had a dodgy relationship with her Dad.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

How do you know this? What was the gossip William is supposed to have spread...

In comparsion, we know what Harry has said because it came from his own mouth or is in his book.

Weren't there a court case where it turned out that one of the Servants who was spreading negative gossip about H&M to the Newspapers was William's servant? Obviously it doesn't 100% prove that William sent his servant to spread these negative stories, but it's no coincidence imo given the fact that we all know how the two Brothers feel about each other, they don't exactly know what subtlety is between the pair of them after all.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Both Meghan and her father have used the media for their own gain…Meghans father has used them as a way of connecting with Meghan which she clearly has no want of doing.
Meghan on the other hand has used the Media to annihilate her husbands family…but was happy to be there in the public spotlight at the Queens deathbed and her funeral playing ‘happy families’….
She has nothing negative to say regarding her own father but clearly refuses to have anything to do with him
On record before her marriage she had nothing but good things to say about him..why don’t we hear about what he has done that bought her to this because she clearly had no restraint exposing the appalling behaviour of Harry’s family but still seemed happy to be in the mix on highly momentous Royal occasions….

Well it's clear from where she gets her behaviour.

The worst I wish on either of them is that they do reconnect

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What did the Father do?

He sold a few photos before the wedding...of him in his suit if I recall correctly

[thesheriff443]

I believe harry and Meghan are truly dead to the royal family after comparing their near catastrophic taxi ride to the death of Diana

Harry told the world how he left the uk to protect his family

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He sold a few photos before the wedding...of him in his suit if I recall correctly

Then faked a heart attack and told her he wasn’t going to the wedding

[Nicky91]

Thomas Markle absolute icon

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I believe harry and Meghan are truly dead to the royal family after comparing their near catastrophic taxi ride to the death of Diana

Why would that be the straw that broke the camel's back? Not one member of the Royal Family (besides Harry and William) gave a speck of a sh*t about Diana or what happened to her. So I imagine William wasn't very happy with the comparison, but the rest of them? Why would they care?

[joeysteele]

I've simply lost patience with the Royals and the whole Rroyal set up as it is.
It's worsened since the late Queen passed away.
I still would want to keep a Monarchy but there's few to look up to in the current lot.

However if the Duchess of Sussex has cut herself and her own family off from her Father for whatever reasons .
That's her right.
Him trying to use the media will not improve things.
In fact if I was to cut myself from a family member,friend or acquaintances and they went on media about it and myself..
Then that would reinforce to me to definitely not open the door EVER again to them.
Thinking they'd run off to the media with anything else about me.

The Sussexes have done that themselves too and are now in effect ostracised from the Royal family.
Parent and Siblings and their children

What a mess of a family
We have a current King now, who even while on a summer break at Balmoral cannot talk to or see his youngest son on an occasion when he is in the country
What an example.

However that's the cost of talking about family negatively publicly ratter than dealing with issues in private.
Harry and Meghan chose to do so and so his own Father doesn't make any reaching out to him and her, just as they don't to the King's family.
So Markle shouldn't be surprised that he'll get nowhere still going on the media.
Sniping while saying he wants to reconcile kind of.
It's not going to happen.
He cannot either really condemn or moan at Meghan and Harry because he's doing just about the same as they did to the Royal family.

As a family the Royals are a shocking example really.
Harry and Meghan chose to come across negative and confrontational
Markle is really just the same using the media at times.
So maybe we're seeing a bit of where she got her nonsense from.

If he really sincerely wants to reconcile then keep off the media.
That's all he can do.
However if the Sussexes don't want him in their lives or their children's then that is their right and choice.
That is sadly the price that can come from distrust, hurt and publicly exposing family affairs and issues.
Just as the current King has his youngest Son and daughter in law has done for their public critical nonsense.

The Royals and some who become part of that robotic institution, seem to come from another planet, so far away they seem to be detached from true reality of family.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jet

The reason he has given interviews is to plead with her to get in touch and let him see his grandchildren because she has refused to take any of his calls or answer his texts or letters.

Is he refusing payment for these interviews? I can't see why he'd want money when reconciliation is his only motive.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Why would that be the straw that broke the camel's back? Not one member of the Royal Family (besides Harry and William) gave a speck of a sh*t about Diana or what happened to her. So I imagine William wasn't very happy with the comparison, but the rest of them? Why would they care?

I bet a fair few of their eyes still haven't un-rolled from the ludicrosity and audacity of the comparison, but yeah I agree it's unlikely to be a final straw for anyone.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Meghan publicly being negative about the Royal Family isn't the same as a family member publicly slagging off another family member imo.

That's more of a Harry & William thing to do.

I get that Meghan does like the limelight (after all she is in Showbiz) but I think from what info that I'm getting in this debacle with her Father makes him look terrible, and I can't help but feel that if he was doing this to someone other than Meghan that we wouldn't even be having people seriously debating his scummy behaviour towards his own Daughter.

Meghan accused the Royals of being Racist...she and Harry accused them of refusing to help her with her mental health and financially... Despite all this they both continued to turn up at the 'big' family functions.

Maybe Meghan should have outed her fathers wrong doings on the Oprah show...because they were clearly so bad she no longer communicates with him....

...but then again it just wouldn't have had the impact would it She is quite happy to expose Harry's families 'poor' behaviour (albeit lies) but she refrains from exposing her own...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Then faked a heart attack and told her he wasn’t going to the wedding

How do you know he faked it.....

Its more likely Meghan didn't want him walking her down the aisle....she didnt want any of her family there not even her favorite niece. Doria was the only one who could pull off the image she wanted to portray to the world of her family...and have the future King walk her down the aisle.

The transparency is unreal...

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've simply lost patience with the Royals and the whole Rroyal set up as it is.
It's worsened since the late Queen passed away.
I still would want to keep a Monarchy but there's few to look up to in the current lot.

However if the Duchess of Sussex has cut herself and her own family off from her Father for whatever reasons .
That's her right.
Him trying to use the media will not improve things.
In fact if I was to cut myself from a family member,friend or acquaintances and they went on media about it and myself..
Then that would reinforce to me to definitely not open the door EVER again to them.
Thinking they'd run off to the media with anything else about me.

The Sussexes have done that themselves too and are now in effect ostracised from the Royal family.
Parent and Siblings and their children

What a mess of a family
We have a current King now, who even while on a summer break at Balmoral cannot talk to or see his youngest son on an occasion when he is in the country
What an example.

However that's the cost of talking about family negatively publicly ratter than dealing with issues in private.
Harry and Meghan chose to do so and so his own Father doesn't make any reaching out to him and her, just as they don't to the King's family.
So Markle shouldn't be surprised that he'll get nowhere still going on the media.
Sniping while saying he wants to reconcile kind of.
It's not going to happen.
He cannot either really condemn or moan at Meghan and Harry because he's doing just about the same as they did to the Royal family.

As a family the Royals are a shocking example really.
Harry and Meghan chose to come across negative and confrontational
Markle is really just the same using the media at times.
So maybe we're seeing a bit of where she got her nonsense from.

If he really sincerely wants to reconcile then keep off the media.
That's all he can do.
However if the Sussexes don't want him in their lives or their children's then that is their right and choice.
That is sadly the price that can come from distrust, hurt and publicly exposing family affairs and issues.
Just as the current King has his youngest Son and daughter in law has done for their public critical nonsense.

The Royals and some who become part of that robotic institution, seem to come from another planet, so far away they seem to be detached from true reality of family.

It’s not the same thing though, because after all Harry and Meghan did, the Royal family continued to invite them to all the big Royal occasions. They didn’t cut them off completely from the word go like Meghan did to her father….and still H&M continued with their badmouthing.
Both the Queen and Charles invited H&M to join them at Balmoral several times to talk things through and they declined. The Queen asked Harry to come and see her the week before she died (they knew the end was near) and he once again declined.

After the Netflix series and Spare, which were cruelly timed to be released while the Queen was still alive and very ill (it’s a blessing she died just before they came out) I think the Royals have had it with them completely now.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

How do you know he faked it.....

Its more likely Meghan didn't want him walking her down the aisle....she didnt want any of her family there not even her favorite niece. Doria was the only one who could pull off the image she wanted to portray to the world of her family...and have the future King walk her down the aisle.

The transparency is unreal...

Yes, not one friend from her former 'ordinary' life, not even one member of Doria's extended family. But there were a bunch of A list celebs who had never even met her before. Says it all really.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

How do you know he faked it.....

Its more likely Meghan didn't want him walking her down the aisle....she didnt want any of her family there not even her favorite niece. Doria was the only one who could pull off the image she wanted to portray to the world of her family...and have the future King walk her down the aisle.

The transparency is unreal...

He ghosted his own daughter days before the wedding. Wouldn’t pick up his phone.

Somebody else got hold of her using his phone pretending to be him.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He ghosted his own daughter days before the wedding. Wouldn’t pick up his phone.

Somebody else got hold of her using his phone pretending to be him.

Meghan up to her 'catastrophic car chase' tricks again. She said she knew it wasn't him - not because it wasn't his voice - but because he didn't use his pet name for her.
Mr. Markle stated it WAS him.
The phone records showed he HAD called her, you see, so she had to pretend it wasn't him, someone else sneaked his phone away and called her. She's nuts.