[bots]

people are always a hair breadth from going on the streets. There will always be some reason for discontent and that is amplified these days by social media.

Riots are something we are going to have to get used to. It will be rinse and repeat from now on.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people are always a hair breadth from going on the streets. There will always be some reason for discontent and that is amplified these days by social media.

Riots are something we are going to have to get used to. It will be rinse and repeat from now on.

Our neighbour who travels a lot was saying that its more or less like this all the time on and off … same in many other European countries

Guess we aren’t the only ones with thousands of illegal Immigrants piling in relentlessly


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[Livia]

As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

They're protected and they don't even bother to hide it.
What about all the other communities? It's not fair. Government should protect everyone, not just a select few.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

Link?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Last night no one did. It was supposed to be 100 protests?

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Yes good they are going to Jail.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

I agree with this; attacks on all minorities are up at the moment. Although police categorisation isn't really helping. I remember signs saying "free Palestine" were considered attacks, as was graffiti saying the same thing, so we need a proper consolidation of what we categorise as attacks, and then we need proper statistics.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ys-rishi-sunak

[joeysteele]

There's always more crossings in the summer months.
That was predicted way before even the election was called

These boat crossings increased under the last government for several years.
Apart from the eventual Albanian agreement.

Just as immigration generally has increased dramatically over the decade plus of the last government.
It ended up at least 3 times the amount it was in 2010 when the last change of government occurred.

Whipping up support against immigration is what has in a big part contributed to sanctioning these criminals as rioters now.
From the possible mindsets of others who hold a more biased anti immigration viewpoint.

With the consequences of these destructive and violent rampages occurring now, fulled in part by the acual criminal rioters just even in their warped way thinking they're actually SUPPORTED.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There's always more crossings in the summer months.
That was predicted way before even the election was called

These boat crossings increased under the last government for several years.
Apart from the eventual Albanian agreement.

Just as immigration generally has increased dramatically over the decade plus of the last government.
It ended up at least 3 times the amount it was in 2010 when the last change of government occurred.

Whipping up support against immigration is what has in a big part contributed to sanctioning these criminals as rioters now.
From the possible mindsets of others who hold a more biased anti immigration viewpoint.

With the consequences of these destructive and violent rampages occurring now, fulled in part by the acual criminal rioters just even in their warped way thinking they're actually SUPPORTED.

But they need to check. Who knows who is coming over? We have no idea who they are.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But they need to check. Who knows who is coming over? We have no idea who they are.

Just asking.
Why weren't you saying all this over the last 10 years plus?
Puzzling???

No need to answer I'm just curious.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Just asking.
Why weren't you saying all this over the last 10 years plus?
Puzzling???

No need to answer I'm just curious.

We didn't have all these people swarming the streets with weapons before.
I've been here since 1994 and I've never seen anything like this.
And I remember when the ira was bombing London

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We didn't have all these people swarming the streets with weapons before.
I've been here since 1994 and I've never seen anything like this.
And I remember when the ira was bombing London

.... but it's only the last 4 weeks you feel the need to get so public about it.

Interesting.

Fair enough

I think you'll find that's gone on for a good while.
I recall a soldier bless him getting attacked by people with weapons.
13 years ago.!!!
There's been rising crime of knife crime and carrying knives over the last 10 years plus and even long before.

It's not ALL just asylum seekers and immigrants carrying knives and committing violence.
It's just odd how in the last 4/5 weeks some have decided to support those against immigration, plus will justify even in the thinnest veiled way, these criminal rioters.
Allowing immigrants to be blamed for it ALL.

Then to even try to blame the sitting PM, government and police even by wrongly saying they commit differing policing policy.
Just again now in these last 45 weeks .

Yet you even quote as far back to the IRA too.
So it's gone on for a lot longer than the last 4/5 ekks or the 10 years + I indicated.
Carrying weapons has gone on for many decades really not just the last one.
Certainly NOT just in the last 4/5 weeks, that's a fact.

[bots]

i actually think that the reasons for rioting were much simpler than are being presented.

Social media groups know what makes people angry, they spoon feed people "news" that stokes that anger and then points them in the direction of public disorder.

People think that they have access to all this wealth of news on X, but the reality is they are being played and manipulated all the way and none of them seem to understand this

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i actually think that the reasons for rioting were much simpler than are being presented.

Social media groups know what makes people angry, they spoon feed people "news" that stokes that anger and then points them in the direction of public disorder.

People think that they have access to all this wealth of news on X, but the reality is they are being played and manipulated all the way and none of them seem to understand this

Totally strong and valid points there too bots.
Well said.

[Nicky91]

the likes of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir especially the latter are also the ones responsible for doing damage to the general image of jewish people

Ben-Gvir his ''jewish fascism'' views



and i agree with Slim, there are attacks against all minorities with these riots by the far right, how they're also spreading lies about the 17 yr old who was convicted for the stabbing spree, whom was NOT a refugee, but born in the UK

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

the likes of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir especially the latter are also the ones responsible for doing damage to the general image of jewish people

Ben-Gvir his ''jewish fascism'' views



and i agree with Slim, there are attacks against all minorities with these riots by the far right, how they're also spreading lies about the 17 yr old who was convicted for the stabbing spree, whom was NOT a refugee, but born in the UK

Jews in this country are not Israelis. Remember not all Muslims are terrorists? It cuts both ways. But yes, of course you agree with slim. Well, today you do. Tomorrow, who knows?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

Jews in this country are not Israelis. Remember not all Muslims are terrorists? It cuts both ways. But yes, of course you agree with slim. Well, today you do. Tomorrow, who knows?

Nicky flip flops, we all know that, but do you dispute that Ben Gvir is a fascist?

What are your thoughts on the Israeli protests to allow rape of prisoners based on Talmudic law? And the storming of the prison to free those charged with raping prisoners?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Nicky flip flops, we all know that, but do you dispute that Ben Gvir is a fascist?

What are your thoughts on the Israeli protests to allow rape of prisoners based on Talmudic law? And the storming of the prison to free those charged with raping prisoners?

Ask a Jew to comment on Israel.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ask a Jew to comment on Israel.

You responded to Nicky about it, so why would it be off the table for me to ask you a question? Would you like to address the questions I asked or not? It just seems that you want to hold Nicky to account, then cry AS because I asked you some questions back. You dismissed Nicky out of hand for no reason. Is it because he's Dutch?

[joeysteele]

The only thing that sticks in my throat on these brainless criminals getting into prison.
Is that now despite their unnecessary violence filled rioting
It's the taxpayer who now has to pay for their time in prisons.

I'd be getting anything and everything out their bank accounts as some kind of other justice if I had my way.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The only thing that sticks in my throat on these brainless criminals getting into prison.
Is that now despite their unnecessary violence filled rioting
It's the taxpayer who now has to pay for their time in prisons.

I'd be getting anything and everything out their bank accounts as some kind of other justice if I had my way.

I dont mind paying, I reckon they will be seen as national heros in years to come.