[eye sea]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

Absolute nonsense.................there are players who are premier league , married, kids and totally responsible - paid huge sums for a talent he has and is regarded as a fine athlete - his RESPONSIBILTIES are to his club, hiw wife and his kids as well as his peers and as a great roe model. He has to worry about a short lived career, consistent injury. What do you regard as a "proper job"..a pop star? a reality tv contestant? This is a proper job, how they eat, sleep, walk and talk. Not all get boozed up and fall out of nightclubs.....so your point 4 is utter nonsense..point 3 is nonsense..they have worries, just different worries from yours or mine...no 2 is even more ludicrous...

Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) They and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.
4) All bills and financial affairs are organised by others.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by angus58

John Terry is not just one of the team, he is the Captain, the highest level of achievement in English football, awarded as a great honour to the player deemed the most worthy of ALL the players in England. He is a figurehead, and a role model for aspiring career footballers, and it is his responsibility NOT to participate in any behaviour that brings the position of Captain, the game of football, his country or his team into disrepute. When he was found out he scurried off to his lawyers to invoke a super injunction to prevent the press from printing the stories. Thankfully, for once, the Courts threw out his application BECAUSE the stories were true, and there was no basis to withhold them from the public. Any misfortune that befalls himself personally or the England team because of the fall out is completely due to his own actions.

Terry may be a great footballer, but he does not have the strength of character and scruples to be a worthy holder of the captaincy. Capello can deploy him on the field where, perhaps, he can redeem himself by doing what he is being paid megabucks to do and take England to victory in the World cup, but it should not be as Captain. That boat should well and truly have sailed for Terry.

Well reading everything you have said, you are very true however judging by the colour past of majority of top Engalnd players, who is worthy?

[informer]

Originally Posted by eye sea

Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) Them and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

And on top of all that Terry tries to make extra money by showing someone round a training ground..greedy?

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by eye sea

Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) Them and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

Please get your facts straight - I did read your post! They do not ALL have maids and nannies so this is nonsense. Of course a solicitor will handle the transfers, deals, they have a legal mind to do this and only the best interest in their client, as for no 3, utter nonsense - you are basing all this on what? What you read?

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by eye sea

Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) They and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.
4) All bills and financial affairs are organised by others.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

no 4 is nonsense also, really this is laughable - you making this up as you go? I have no clue? ha ha ha ok then - absolute bull sh** and I know this from facts!!

[informer]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

Please get your facts straight - I did read your post! They do not ALL have maids and nannies so this is nonsense. Of course a solicitor will handle the transfers, deals, they have a legal mind to do this and only the best interest in their client, as for no 3, utter nonsense - you are basing all this on what? What you read?

Its a good thing they leave the contracts to the solicitors as John Terry and most footballers cannot read...

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

no 4 is nonsense also, really this is laughable - you making this up as you go? I have no clue? ha ha ha ok then - absolute bull sh** and I know this from facts!!

Obviously some player are and i say SOME but beleive me there are others out there who are nothing like this

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by informer

Its a good thing they leave the contracts to the solicitors as John Terry and most footballers cannot read...

I suppose they are all thick then eh? Lampard etc? dry your eyes

You are generalising all footy players and tarring them all with the same brush which is really unfair

[informer]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

I suppose they are all thick then eh? Lampard etc? dry your eyes

You are generalising all footy players and tarring them all with the same brush which is really unfair

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?

[Chantel]

Originally Posted by informer

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?

So your basically judging him by the way he speaks?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by angus58

I fear some of the posters on this thread will never GET it. Where have I said he should be thrown out of the team? Let him play by all means, but not as CAPTAIN. That position should be reserved from someone worthy to take it on.

who? all the main contenders have skeletons in their closet, maybe you think somebody that is not guarenteed a place in the side should be captain, ask every england player who they want as captain, i guarentee john terry would win by a landslide

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by informer

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?

and this is relevant because?

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by wannashag

who? all the main contenders have skeletons in their closet, maybe you think somebody that is not guarenteed a place in the side should be captain, ask every england player who they want as captain, i guarentee john terry would win by a landslide

Exactly! It's not that i DO NOT GET IT! Of course i do, he is despicable no denying it however, he is there because he is no 1 in many players, managers eyes. Even Roman Abramovich has given his full backing. No one condoning as thing he has done, its lowest of the low but at the end of the day there is a world cup looming and money is money and they want to win.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by informer

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?

school bells gone as it? dont time fly when your having fun?

[informer]

Originally Posted by Chantel

So your basically judging him by the way he speaks?

No Im judging him on the fact his mother was caught shoplifting, his dad was involved in drug deals, the fact he was involved in spit roasting a football groupie with others, that he was caught trying to get an extra 10 grand from a reporter for showing him round a training ground, that he is from barking in essex the main BNP area, and now for ****ing his best mates wife...the fact he is as thick as **** only adds to this embarrasing list...

he is a low class , common..thick peasant..

[Alf]

Originally Posted by informer

No Im judging him on the fact his mother was caught shoplifting, his dad was involved in drug deals, the fact he was involved in spit roasting a football groupie with others, that he was caught trying to get an extra 10 grand from a reporter for showing him round a training ground, that he is from barking in essex the main BNP area, and now for ****ing his best mates wife...the fact he is as thick as **** only adds to this embarrasing list...

he is a low class , common..thick peasant..

bobby moore was from barking

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by informer

No Im judging him on the fact his mother was caught shoplifting, his dad was involved in drug deals, the fact he was involved in spit roasting a football groupie with others, that he was caught trying to get an extra 10 grand from a reporter for showing him round a training ground, that he is from barking in essex the main BNP area, and now for ****ing his best mates wife...the fact he is as thick as **** only adds to this embarrasing list...

he is a low class , common..thick peasant..

it's agreed he has a pretty vile track record and perhaps not the greatest parenting which is unfortunate, on one hand you commend him for being at the top of his game and coming through all that to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, but, there is no denying that money and fame has gone to his head and 170k a week would turn anyones head. He is still a young man. Look how many football players have similar backgrounds....

[informer]

Originally Posted by wannashag

bobby moore was from barking

You are surely not comparing Bobby Moore to this lump?

[informer]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

it's agreed he has a pretty vile track record and perhaps not the greatest parenting which is unfortunate, on one hand you commend him for being at the top of his game and coming through all that to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, but, there is no denying that money and fame has gone to his head and 170k a week would turn anyones head. He is still a young man. Look how many football players have similar backgrounds....

Both him and vinnie jones should be on a building site or in a white van with a copy of the SUN on the dashboard..they are the dregs of society and everything that is wrong with this country...uneducated yobs

[informer]

Originally Posted by Chantel

So your basically judging him by the way he speaks?

Are you a wannabe wag?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by informer

You are surely not comparing Bobby Moore to this lump?

there's a few comparisons,
both from barking
both centre defenders
both captained their country
both wore the number 6 shirt for england
both lacked pace
both like pie and mash and jellied eels
both like a knees up round the old joanna

[Chantel]

Originally Posted by informer

Are you a wannabe wag?

No im not lol

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by informer

Both him and vinnie jones should be on a building site or in a white van with a copy of the SUN on the dashboard..they are the dregs of society and everything that is wrong with this country...uneducated yobs

so builders are uneducated yobs? dregs of society?

[Angus]

Originally Posted by wannashag

who? all the main contenders have skeletons in their closet, maybe you think somebody that is not guarenteed a place in the side should be captain, ask every england player who they want as captain, i guarentee john terry would win by a landslide

It's not my job, nor that of the England players, nor that of the England fans, to pick the Captain, Capello was supposedly the best Manager available for the job and is reportedly being extremely well paid to make that call. Let's hope he makes the right decision.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by angus58

It's not my job, nor that of the England players, nor that of the England fans, to pick the Captain, Capello was supposedly the best Manager available for the job and is reportedly being extremely well paid to make that call. Let's hope he makes the right decision.

Just wondered.......who would you have captain the team if not Terry?