[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Livia

You think she's bringing it on herself? I can't imagine what you think she could possibly have done in a week and a half to justify her treatment. She in there with a bunch of bitches.

Theres no smoke without fire but with a character like Helen she could bully an ovary before its even fertilised.

Im saying we have no live feed so we don't know whats going on.

Calm down dear.

[Patricia4]

I found it very uncomfortable watching the way Helen spoke to Jale tonight she is being picked on all the time I believe Jale is doing nothing wrong for all them wolves attacking her and Helen should be told about this by BB.

[SocietyIsRuined]

I voted "No" but after Helen tonight then I would love to change that to "Yes". I am glad that I do not know Helen in real life. One of the worst human beings on this planet void of any morals. Only a mother could love.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

I found it very uncomfortable watching the way Helen spoke to Jale tonight she is being picked on all the time I believe Jale is doing nothing wrong for all them wolves attacking her and Helen should be told about this by BB.

Believe nothing 100% my child theres no live feed.

Don't be led astray.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by SocietyIsRuined

I voted "No" but after Helen tonight then I would love to change that to "Yes". I am glad that I do not know Helen in real life. One of the worst human beings on this planet void of any morals. Only a mother could love.

And Wayne Rooney

[Mystic Mock]

Miss Pity Me playing the victim again tonight, what a surprise.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Miss Pity Me playing the victim again tonight, what a surprise.

You have some serious hatred for Jale there mock

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Miss Pity Me playing the victim again tonight, what a surprise.

Do you even know what playing the victim is or did you just learn it and want to keep using it? Because you aren't using it correctly

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Doogle

Do you even know what playing the victim is or did you just learn it and want to keep using it? Because you aren't using it correctly

Ok can you educate us on what playing the victim is and how Jale is doing it wrong?

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Ok can you educate us on what playing the victim is and how Jale is doing it wrong?

Playing the victim would refer to completely milking it with routine crying in the diary room, seeming bothered by the comments and just generally acting helpless. Jale is just sat there unbothered. She seems more irritated than anything

I know we have no live feed and we're going by what we've been shown but if anything surely they'd show us more of Jale acting so hard done by if they want to edit it that way. Not everyone runs their mouth off when being attacked, especially when it's out of nowhere and in the heat of the moment

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Doogle

Playing the victim would refer to completely milking it with routine crying in the diary room, seeming bothered by the comments and just generally acting helpless. Jale is just sat there unbothered. She seems more irritated than anything

I know we have no live feed and we're going by what we've been shown but if anything surely they'd show us more of Jale acting so hard done by if they want to edit it that way. Not everyone runs their mouth off when being attacked, especially when it's out of nowhere and in the heat of the moment

Playing the victim could also be played by getting up early or walking away during a fun situation to have a cigarette alone when knowing doing this every day will be caught on camera for every highlight show.

No?

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Miss Pity Me playing the victim again tonight, what a surprise.

Sorry that you have to defend a housemate who feels so insecure about herself that she has to bring other housemates looks down xo

[Josy]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Miss Pity Me playing the victim again tonight, what a surprise.

When did she play the victim in tonights highlights?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Playing the victim could also be played by getting up early to have a cigarette alone when knowing doing this every day will be caught on camera for every highlight show.

No?

Sorry I would be doing this with or without the **** she has had

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Sorry I would be doing this with or without the **** she has had

LOL im still generally on Jale side but **** my anus what do we know from these 45 highlights?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You have some serious hatred for Jale there mock

She's dull and doesn't seem to want to be remembered for anything else other than being the victim.

It's not my fault if she's doing it lol.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Doogle

Do you even know what playing the victim is or did you just learn it and want to keep using it? Because you aren't using it correctly

I am using it correctly thank you very much, you just choose not to agree with me which is your choice.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Josy

When did she play the victim in tonights highlights?

"I'm being treated like a dartboard.” And "everyone treats me like I'm to blame for everything in here.” When if she really felt that way why not just stand up to them? If they tried to do anything to her in the house they would be thrown out, even on Ch5.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

"I'm being treated like a dartboard.” And "everyone treats me like I'm to blame for everything in here.” When if she really felt that way why not just stand up to them? If they tried to do anything to her in the house they would be thrown out, even on Ch5.

Both things she said after she was targeted for no reason, don't you see how that's different from playing the victim?

[kistar]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Playing the victim could also be played by getting up early or walking away during a fun situation to have a cigarette alone when knowing doing this every day will be caught on camera for every highlight show.

No?

She said Good Morning to Toya , who completely ignored her before she went out and had a cigarette , she has also said that when she sits with her friends the people who hate her won't approach any of them so she is giving people space so everyone can mingle and no one gets isolated just because they are friends with her.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I am using it correctly thank you very much, you just choose not to agree with me which is your choice.

If she was playing the victim she would be in the diary room in tears every 5 minutes and also telling as many people as would listen that she feels she is being picked on.Also she said very early on she didn't want to get upset about Pauline or Helen because that would make her look like a victim and she didn't want that to be the case.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

"I'm being treated like a dartboard.” And "everyone treats me like I'm to blame for everything in here.” When if she really felt that way why not just stand up to them? If they tried to do anything to her in the house they would be thrown out, even on Ch5.

Would you stand up to Helen and Pauline and Toya and by default then Ash and Steven? Because it wouldn't be just one of them it would be them all?
The people she is friends with would immediately be drawn into taking sides and that is a risk because she can't guarantee what side they would take.Sometimes it's better not to react to a situation impulsively , you are more likely to say and do things you regret .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Josy

Both things she said after she was targeted for no reason, don't you see how that's different from playing the victim?

They was rude to her, there is a difference.

[Cal.]

Part of it is, I don't agree that Helen not liking her is bullying her though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by kistar

If she was playing the victim she would be in the diary room in tears every 5 minutes and also telling as many people as would listen that she feels she is being picked on.Also she said very early on she didn't want to get upset about Pauline or Helen because that would make her look like a victim and she didn't want that to be the case.

She does go around the whole house talking about how people are being mean to her.