[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Trump has often attacked the losers and then everybody wonders why the losers are voting for him. Trump has answered this by shouting out at his rally, "The Mexicans are here raping all your women and the Muslims are here to blow you all up", aww so that's why they are losers, get rid of the Mexicans and Muslims and they won't be losers anymore. Trumps one hell of an expert in the art of scapegoating.

he never said any of that, youre lying again

[Johnnyuk123]

This place always reminds me of this Disney song.

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[DemolitionRed]

[QUOTE=Johnnyuk123;8550892]This place always reminds me of this Disney song.

It would be lovely to get your thoughts and reasons Johnny. Sorry but I don't think I've ever seen you actually debate a topic so I'm being serious here.

[Johnnyuk123]

[QUOTE=DemolitionRed;8550897]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

This place always reminds me of this Disney song.

It would be lovely to get your thoughts and reasons Johnny. Sorry but I don't think I've ever seen you actually debate a topic so I'm being serious here.

All your posts are negative no matter what thread you are in so there is no point in me or anyone on here trying to debate with someone so blinkered and negative. Having a delault setting of being negative doesn't encourage debate at all on any platform, all it does is close it.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

All your posts are negative no matter what thread you are in so there is no point in me or anyone on here trying to debate with someone so blinkered and negative. Having a delault setting of being negative doesn't encourage debate at all on any platform, all it does is close it.

You mean I don't agree with the posts that you agree with? negative or not, at least I give people something to debate.

Ah ok, I get it. You see anyone who disagrees with the people you agree with as negative and because the people you agree with are already debating with the people you disagree with, you don't need to add anything other than the odd applaud...for the people you agree with obviously, whilst ignoring the ones you disagree with.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You mean I don't agree with the posts that you agree with? negative or not, at least I give people something to debate.

Ah ok, I get it. You see anyone who disagrees with the people you agree with as negative and because the people you agree with are already debating with the people you disagree with, you don't need to add anything other than the odd applaud...for the people you agree with obviously, whilst ignoring the ones you disagree with.

so far you have made 2 posts you cant back up

1. which members are far right
2. link to that quote from DT


not exactly a great record

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You mean I don't agree with the posts that you agree with? negative or not, at least I give people something to debate.

Ah ok, I get it. You see anyone who disagrees with the people you agree with as negative and because the people you agree with are already debating with the people you disagree with, you don't need to add anything other than the odd applaud...for the people you agree with obviously, whilst ignoring the ones you disagree with.

See what i mean...
You always assume what others think (then post it as a matter of fact) and look to the negative first then try to mock the individual rather than respond honestly on what was just posted to you. Something which YOU asked me to do for you. This is a perfect example of how you view others posts on here and more importantly how you respond to them. Yet you wish to debate with others when your post back to me just now shows that you have no interest at all in debating with me or anyone but yet you are very open to insulting others on here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

dont forget red you have 2 questions to address

[DemolitionRed]

Barbara Rez who won the first Apprentice and went on to work for him says this:

"Trump really appeals to people who feel some measure of shame for harbouring prejudices.
He makes them think it’s OK and nobody challenges him."

[DemolitionRed]

Donald Trump’s Economic Appeal to Poor Whites

Donald Trump has latched onto a zeitgeist and identity that forms a large part of the fabric of our nation. We’d like to say that this sullied portion of the fabric is the strain of racist and bigoted segregation that we’d hoped America had moved beyond. And while this unfortunate reality is central to Trump’s appeal, the explanation for Trump’s rise is a bit more complex, but equally as troubling and regularly overlooked.

The root connector of Trump’s supporters and the vile ascension of his campaign may reside in the combination of, on the one hand, the antiquated notions of property, status, and class that Americans originally brought with them from the Old World, and on the other, the racist, segregated, and oppressive structures Americans established in the New World.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...or-whites.html

[billy123]

This is interesting and gives some insight into his surge in support.

Youtube video

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bobnot

This is interesting and gives some insight into his surge in support.

Youtube video

[DemolitionRed]

Trump isn't a fascist in the classic sense, but he's certainly not a conservative and I can only imagine the depths of his dislike for the left. He's a man who is comfortable with violence at his rallies, he plays heavily on those he considers his countries enemy as a threat to the nation, his foreign policy is ridiculously patriotic, and he's appealing to national chauvinism.

Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used, and so its no surprise he's being likened to that monster. Is he another Hitler though? when you understand the fundamental principles of fascism, its clear that Trump is as close to fascism as you'll get with a popular movement in the US in 2016.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Trump isn't a fascist in the classic sense, but he's certainly not a conservative and I can only imagine the depths of his dislike for the left. He's a man who is comfortable with violence at his rallies, he plays heavily on those he considers his countries enemy as a threat to the nation, his foreign policy is ridiculously patriotic, and he's appealing to national chauvinism.

Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used, and so its no surprise he's being likened to that monster. Is he another Hitler though? when you understand the fundamental principles of fascism, its clear that Trump is as close to fascism as you'll get with a popular movement in the US in 2016.

"Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used,"


evidence please

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used,"

evidence please

Fascism, while invariably being far-right and authoritarian in practice, is just as opposed to traditional liberal capitalism as it is to the revolutionary left, and isn't particularly fond of conservatism. It's radical in that it aims to abolish existing hierarchies, but at the same time wants to institute new ones based on merit within rigid ethnic and ideological parameters. It's extremist nationalism where working class struggle and bourgeois sociopolitical prerogatives are pushed to the side so that everyone of the right racial and cultural background can come together behind a romanticized notion of "the people" as manifested in the national leader.
A short history of fascism


Like I said, Trump isn’t a conservative and he’s certainly not left thinking. He’s against liberal capitalism and wants to ditch free market economy for nationalism and this is what makes him close to the above quote.

When I said in my other post that Trump appears to be comfortable with violence at his rallies and he puts huge emphasis on the ‘other’ as a threat to the nation, Hitler did this too. There are similarities.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Trump isn't a fascist in the classic sense, but he's certainly not a conservative and I can only imagine the depths of his dislike for the left. He's a man who is comfortable with violence at his rallies, he plays heavily on those he considers his countries enemy as a threat to the nation, his foreign policy is ridiculously patriotic, and he's appealing to national chauvinism.

Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used, and so its no surprise he's being likened to that monster. Is he another Hitler though? when you understand the fundamental principles of fascism, its clear that Trump is as close to fascism as you'll get with a popular movement in the US in 2016.

I have to report this hateful post

[Crimson Dynamo]

Red if you can't provide a link no one will believe you anymore

Making g up hateful stuff like that is actually illegal

[DemolitionRed]

double post

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

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for Girth

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by arista

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for Girth

[DemolitionRed]

Also...

Donald Trump has a copy of Hitler's speeches. There's nothing wrong with that, I also have a copy and although its not something I'd read on the tube, if you want to understand what made Hitler such a successful orator, then its a good book to study.

Trump just like Hitler, adds a lot of animation to his speeches. Also like Hitler, his hands are never still as he communicates his ideas and just like Hitler, his facial expressions are well practised. Trumps charisma, the very thing that excites his followers, is something he likely got out of that book. Hitler is famous for enthralling his audience and there's very few people the world over who can do that. A big part of Hitlers speeches were about making Germany great again and this is something Trump does in virtually every speech he's made.

Like I said before, all the other republicans are at least as bad as Trump, I mean, they all think like him but they're not quite brave enough to say it like it is and they are far too modest to suggest they want to make America great again. Because of the artful way, and I mean that in a complimentary way, that Trump can deliver his speech, that in itself has allowed him to unleash and have accepted, what was formerly unspoken about. If you want a nation on your side, you have to give them something they really want and that's what he's been able to do and he's done it in Hitler style.

The problem with that is, for all those who aren't enamoured with him, they will see his words, his well practised facial expressions; his expressive body language and hand waving and of course his forthright speech as a mirror image of Hitler. Many people are bound to find this disturbing, but once you understand that he's merely taken lessons from one of the best orators in the world, then you can understand why he's got such a huge following.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Also...

Donald Trump has a copy of Hitler's speeches. There's nothing wrong with that, I also have a copy and although its not something I'd read on the tube, if you want to understand what made Hitler such a successful orator, then its a good book to study.

Trump just like Hitler, adds a lot of animation to his speeches. Also like Hitler, his hands are never still as he communicates his ideas and just like Hitler, his facial expressions are well practised. Trumps charisma, the very thing that excites his followers, is something he likely got out of that book. Hitler is famous for enthralling his audience and there's very few people the world over who can do that. A big part of Hitlers speeches were about making Germany great again and this is something Trump does in virtually every speech he's made.

Like I said before, all the other republicans are at least as bad as Trump, I mean, they all think like him but they're not quite brave enough to say it like it is and they are far too modest to suggest they want to make America great again. Because of the artful way, and I mean that in a complimentary way, that Trump can deliver his speech, that in itself has allowed him to unleash and have accepted, what was formerly unspoken about. If you want a nation on your side, you have to give them something they really want and that's what he's been able to do and he's done it in Hitler style.

The problem with that is, for all those who aren't enamoured with him, they will see his words, his well practised facial expressions; his expressive body language and hand waving and of course his forthright speech as a mirror image of Hitler. Many people are bound to find this disturbing, but once you understand that he's merely taken lessons from one of the best orators in the world, then you can understand why he's got such a huge following.

Don't worry Future generations of neo Nazis will be reading books on your socialist hero tony bliar for inspiration in mass murder and war mongering

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

Don't worry Future generations of neo Nazis will be reading books on your socialist hero tony bliar for inspiration in mass murder and war mongering

Well that little snippet shows how little you know me

[Alf]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Also...

Donald Trump has a copy of Hitler's speeches. There's nothing wrong with that, I also have a copy and although its not something I'd read on the tube, if you want to understand what made Hitler such a successful orator, then its a good book to study.

Trump just like Hitler, adds a lot of animation to his speeches. Also like Hitler, his hands are never still as he communicates his ideas and just like Hitler, his facial expressions are well practised. Trumps charisma, the very thing that excites his followers, is something he likely got out of that book. Hitler is famous for enthralling his audience and there's very few people the world over who can do that. A big part of Hitlers speeches were about making Germany great again and this is something Trump does in virtually every speech he's made.

Like I said before, all the other republicans are at least as bad as Trump, I mean, they all think like him but they're not quite brave enough to say it like it is and they are far too modest to suggest they want to make America great again. Because of the artful way, and I mean that in a complimentary way, that Trump can deliver his speech, that in itself has allowed him to unleash and have accepted, what was formerly unspoken about. If you want a nation on your side, you have to give them something they really want and that's what he's been able to do and he's done it in Hitler style.

The problem with that is, for all those who aren't enamoured with him, they will see his words, his well practised facial expressions; his expressive body language and hand waving and of course his forthright speech as a mirror image of Hitler. Many people are bound to find this disturbing, but once you understand that he's merely taken lessons from one of the best orators in the world, then you can understand why he's got such a huge following.

Has the great woman been reading Adolf's book too?