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Old 26-07-2018, 05:21 PM #1
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He donned a silver wig, high heels and make up to impersonate the black drag act rupaul and everyones cool with that......but i cant do the same for bob marley...now thats daft.
Where does it say he was impersonating Rupaul? Doesn't say that anywhere from what I can see.

But like it's been said to you a few times now, people can dress up as black characters, it's when they get out the black facepaint that things cross the line.
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Where does it say he was impersonating Rupaul? Doesn't say that anywhere from what I can see.

But like it's been said to you a few times now, people can dress up as black characters, it's when they get out the black facepaint that things cross the line.
Im sure the same look can be achieved with make up...but that would be ok with you?..for gay johnny..to impersonate a black bloke with make up to make him look like this bloke, cause the blokes gay.
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Im sure the same look can be achieved with make up...but that would be ok with you?..for gay johnny..to impersonate a black bloke with make up to make him look like this bloke, cause the blokes gay.
You can keep repeating the same sentiment with a leading intent but you aren't going to get a different answer.

You are clinging on to a lie that this kid was dressed up as Rupaul and worst of all, you know it's a lie. You are spreading misinformation in order to falsely strengthen what is a flimsy point that you are trying to make.

This kid is not imitating Rupaul and contouring your face to change the shape of it can never be compared to blackface with a straight face.

I'm going to say this again in the hopes you don't ignore it for a third time.

Anyone can dress up as a black character, like how Miley Cyrus dressed up as Lil'Kim, the problem arises when they use blackface to do so.
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people do realise that drag isn't just drag race? just because drag race as a show is quite sexual (not in the way 14 year old boys cant handle but) doesn't mean drag inherently is. drag race though is a good resource is in no way a portraytion of drag so saying drag is just for gay people is ridiculous my best friend is a biological heterosexual woman and does drag. drag has no boundries mate and shouldn't be compared to an incredibly racist act which purpose is to mock people of colour
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This is old news fgs..the kid was on this morning..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/r...-back-12977965


He impersonated rupaul dezzy..read it in black and white in the op...
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His performance was a dance to a medley of tracks he mixed with his stepfather including songs by Little Mix, Ariana Grande and RuPaul....


Rest assured, he dressed up as rupaul to lip sync his track.
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This is old news fgs..the kid was on this morning..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/r...-back-12977965


He impersonated rupaul dezzy..read it in black and white in the op...
You're actually wrong. It says he was inspired by Rupaul's Drag Race and it was the headteacher that said he was imitating Rupaul in order to falsely strengthen her point that it was inappropriate. He never says he wanted to appear as Rupaul.


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He can dress anyway he likes on This Morning its not like he couldn't change his look
Yes, I'm sure he was planning to rip off the outfit to reveal a sheer naked glittery bodysuit underneath... You asked for pictures, you got them. You can't try to discount them with a strawman theory because they don't suit your opinion. You can't scream fake news at things you don't want to hear.

Also finally, the teachers okayed his look and his performance, do you really think it would have taken until the night before for the head teacher to take action if his performance contained anything inappropriate? Be honest with yourself.

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His performance was a dance to a medley of tracks he mixed with his stepfather including songs by Little Mix, Ariana Grande and RuPaul....


Rest assured, he dressed up as rupaul to lip sync his track.
That makes no sense. To perform a song you have to be dressed up as the artist? Did he have five costume changes planned so that he could also appear as each member of Little Mix and Ariana Grande to suit your strange criteria?
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You're actually wrong. It says he was inspired by Rupaul's Drag Race and it was the headteacher that said he was imitating Rupaul in order to falsely strengthen her point that it was inappropriate. He never says he wanted to appear as Rupaul.




Yes, I'm sure he was planning to rip off the outfit to reveal a sheer naked glittery bodysuit underneath... You asked for pictures, you got them. You can't try to discount them with a strawman theory because they don't suit your opinion. You can't scream fake news at things you don't want to hear.

Also finally, the teachers okayed his look and his performance, do you really think it would have taken until the night before for the head teacher to take action if his performance contained anything inappropriate? Be honest with yourself.



That makes no sense. To perform a song you have to be dressed up as the artist? Did he have five costume changes planned so that he could also appear as each member of Little Mix and Ariana Grande to suit your strange criteria?
No..because to me it looks like he was impersonating ruapaul, impersonating little mix n ariana.
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No..because to me it looks like he was impersonating ruapaul, impersonating little mix n ariana.
Lemme get this straight. You are saying this guy in this look



is simultaneously impersonating the following six people's looks?

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It's just not realistic.
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Ps, school talent shows just need a brave student to walk on and show the talent, they dont need to do a dress rehersal...
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Ps, school talent shows just need a brave student to walk on and show the talent, they dont need to do a dress rehersal...
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as i thought

not one dissenting voice about Dezzy's disgusting attack on the head


shame on all of you


too busy taking easy pot shots at Parmy



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as i thought

not one dissenting voice about Dezzy's disgusting attack on the head


shame on all of you


too busy taking easy pot shots at Parmy



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Its so easy to do other people jobs isnt it?
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Can someone tell ammi the other performers were in solidarity with lewis.
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This boy's school day is 8:40 - 2:45

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When I was in primary school our whole school went to theater clwyd every christmas to see a panto and I remember regularly seeing people in drag in the roles* and and none of us were confused. It's just an act.

I sort of see this kid doing his thing as similar and see no harm at all in him doing his act (which he had edited to remove risky words and apparently removed whole sections of songs to avoid anything bad being utterd. Sounds to me like the head has just banned him without seeing anything.

* not just men as women either I have seen Peter Pan as a girl and a girl playing Aladdin.
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When I was in primary school our whole school went to theater clwyd every christmas to see a panto and I remember regularly seeing people in drag in the roles* and and none of us were confused. It's just an act.

I sort of see this kid doing his thing as similar and see no harm at all in him doing his act (which he had edited to remove risky words and apparently removed whole sections of songs to avoid anything bad being utterd. Sounds to me like the head has just banned him without seeing anything.

* not just men as women either I have seen Peter Pan as a girl and a girl playing Aladdin.
Panto is inspired by fairytales though
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i think the mum is to blame here i really do.
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This video perfectly describes today's media - what is happening to our education system? Stuff like this that makes the headlines when it's petty! ! There was obviously no malicious intent from this head teacher - he even claimed it wasn't age appropriate for a school "talent show" ...
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Why is this all over the news when there is more important things happening worldwide?? People dying ect ect yet "Teenager in drag banned from school talent show" is more important? No one is being harmed, the child himself even claimed he came to school as drag on a non uniform day yet no one battered an eye lid?
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Why is this all over the news when there is more important things happening worldwide?? People dying ect ect yet "Teenager in drag banned from school talent show" is more important? No one is being harmed, the child himself even claimed he came to school as drag on a non uniform day yet no one battered an eye lid?
it’s not all over the news, it was on This Morning and in the papers

you make it sound as if it’s the first thing Alistair Stewart talks about on the news at 10
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Drag isn't a sexualised art form in itself, it's just that it's historically been confined to gay bars and clubs because of society being historically homophobic, and pretty much any late night/bar entertainment will contain a sexual element because the audiences are adults. So cause and effect/why is drag generally adult/what happens if drag is taken out of that context... should be given some thought. Drag really is as simple as dressing up as the opposite sex and that's it. As for the content of a drag act it completely depends on that particular act. It's like saying the school shouldn't allow comedy acts because comedy performances in bars at night generally include adult content. I can't see the logic to the argument at all, does seem like it's rooted in ignorance to me. Sorry!

Thing is society is becoming less and less homophobic so what was once pushed out of the mainstream due to homophobia no longer needs to be pushed out and confined to a late night bar environment, and this boy and his family are living examples of that change and it's wonderful to see. We're in sort of a transition period at the moment though and people like this headteacher have a bit of catching up to do I suppose so things like this will crop up, but from the sounds of it there's going to be a lot of positives for the boy that will come from all this so it's not all bad I suppose.

Also like Dezzy said drag isn't just male impersonation of females. Drag kings are a thing, and I see it as mocking sex stereotypes rather than mocking the sexes anyway. And sex stereotypes should be mocked! Again though it completely depends on the act, there's so much variation with drag these days a lot of it wouldn't be classed as mockery at all.
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