[bots]

the freight business will likely be unaffected going forward, but their passenger numbers will go down a lot. Even if they halved the pay of the new workers, thats still by their calculation a 50 million annual loss. Lets see if its still in business 12 months down the road

[arista]

Grant Shapps has said his phone
is full of calls from Blue Chip firms who want to take
these workers on.

Speaking in Blackpool
to GBnewsHD

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Grant Shapps has said his phone
is full of calls from Blue Chip firms who want to take
these workers on.

Speaking in Blackpool
to GBnewsHD

That's good. I hope they all find work

[arista]

[P&O Ferries: New Eastern European crew paid '£2-an-hour'
on board 'don't have clearance to sail' after agency
employing them was set up just one MONTH ago by Swiss boss]

[The new agency staff who will be manning
P&O Ferries' ships are an 'Eastern European' crew
who have been offered '£2.60-an-hour' wages
in a move union bosses have slammed
as being a 21st century recreation of 'slave ships'.
Pictured: Workers are seen aboard the Spirit of Britain in Dover, Kent]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...st-2-hour.html

[user104658]

So who had "slave ships" on their dystopian apocalypse bingo?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So who had "slave ships" on their dystopian apocalypse bingo?

Tories reading this thread, then getting to your "good news" post about slave ships.



Shout out to legend killer for the gif

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So who had "slave ships" on their dystopian apocalypse bingo?

Erm I said Brexit was a way to rid the UK of workers rights in 2016 does that count?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Erm I said Brexit was a way to rid the UK of workers rights in 2016 does that count?

no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast

It was an accurate prediction on the direction of post Brexit policy under a conservative government.

Not made as anything other than a suggestion based on my personal observations on what may and may not be affected if a yes vote was the outcome of the referendum.

It was not influenced by or expressed by any Labour MP at the time. Your accusations are groundless.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast

I mean... the whole topic of this thread suggests that it was not an inflated claim at all...

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean... the whole topic of this thread suggests that it was not an inflated claim at all...

employment law was never the same throughout europe. I worked for a dutch based company at one time and when they reduced staff, the majority of staff went from the uk because it was almost imposible to dump staff in holland or france. Brexit hasn't helped because rights can deviate even further now, but employers have always been favoured in the uk over employees

[Zizu]

Sooooo if P&O are losing £1 million per day how on Earth does sacking 800 people then replacing them with cheaper workers going to help matters ??

Even if each new worker accepts £50 per day less ( unlikely) that only saves £40,000 per day .. especially if they are going to have to shell out thousands in severance payments


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sooooo if P&O are losing £1 million per day how on Earth does sacking 800 people then replacing them with cheaper workers going to help matters ??

Even if each new worker accepts £50 per day less ( unlikely) that only saves £40,000 per day .. especially if they are going to have to shell out thousands in severance payments


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i said exactly the same earlier and the public will use other alternatives now if they can, so their income will go down, and they have to pay to make all these redundancies. I give them a year before they stop trading

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i said exactly the same earlier and the public will use other alternatives now if they can, so their income will go down, and they have to pay to make all these redundancies. I give them a year before they stop trading

They have behaved appallingly. I will never use thwei services.

[glib]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sooooo if P&O are losing £1 million per day how on Earth does sacking 800 people then replacing them with cheaper workers going to help matters ??

Even if each new worker accepts £50 per day less ( unlikely) that only saves £40,000 per day .. especially if they are going to have to shell out thousands in severance payments


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Saves them £120k a day

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by glib

Saves them £120k a day

How !?

They can’t be saving £150 a day per person surely !!

How much are they flaming well earning per day !!?


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[glib]

Originally Posted by Zizu

How !?

They can’t be saving £150 a day per person surely !!

How much are they flaming well earning per day !!?


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You have calculated someone on £2 an hour will save the company £40k a day

Assuming all the 800 got sacked were earning a min of £8 an hour

Thats x4 = £160k - 40k = £120k

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

How !?

They can’t be saving £150 a day per person surely !!

How much are they flaming well earning per day !!?


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Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity

Surely this is against the law?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity

What about their replacements. ?


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[arista]

[glib]

But if you don’t operate in a single country, are you legally entitled to one country’s legal min wage

Also don’t they receive accomodation and food for working on board these ferries? Don’t see what they’ll spend any money on

[The Slim Reaper]

[Crimson Dynamo]

are Ferries viable in today's market?

apart from say in Scotland to serve Islands?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

apart from say in Scotland to serve Islands?

Those aren't viable either, they're 1) already subsidised, 2) ancient and 3) constantly having maintenance issues.

Source: My sister lives on an island.