[Livia]

How sad that this privileged woman would squander first her talent and then her life. I'm very sad for her daughter.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Livia

How sad that this privileged woman would squander first her talent and then her life. I'm very sad for her daughter.

I understand what you say and I feel sad for her daughter too..but I can't help feel very sad for Whitney too. It shows that however privileged your life may be or how good your talents are or what you could have or could be....if you are emotionally unstable, you may as well have nothing...as I think was also the case with Amy Winehouse. If you succumb to drugs and alcohol and you are poor...you will find a way to get them, if you are rich and privileged..well, it's easier. It is sad and it is a waste, I agree...we only get one life and she trashed that gift, but it is sad to think that she felt it was so worthless

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I understand what you say and I feel sad for her daughter too..but I can't help feel very sad for Whitney too. It shows that however privileged your life may be or how good your talents are or what you could have or could be....if you are emotionally unstable, you may as well have nothing...as I think was also the case with Amy Winehouse. If you succumb to drugs and alcohol and you are poor...you will find a way to get them, if you are rich and privileged..well, it's easier. It is sad and it is a waste, I agree...we only get one life and she trashed that gift, but it is sad to think that she felt it was so worthless

I understand the whole addiction thing, but I don't buy into the whole "poor thing felt worthless" idea. Addicts I've known have been terribly self-centred.They don't take drugs because they hate themselves, they take drugs because it makes them feel good, and then they're hooked.

I am sorry that she's dead, but I'm surprised at the massive outpouring of grief for a woman who, while she was a good singer, had been a total mess for years and now seems to have been elevated to the status of tortured martyr.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I understand the whole addiction thing, but I don't buy into the whole "poor thing felt worthless" idea. Addicts I've known have been terribly self-centred.They don't take drugs because they hate themselves, they take drugs because it makes them feel good, and then they're hooked.

I am sorry that she's dead, but I'm surprised at the massive outpouring of grief for a woman who, while she was a good singer, had been a total mess for years and now seems to have been elevated to the status of tortured martyr.

Really? so when she was getting the crap beaten out of her by Bobby Brown, that was cause it made her feel good? WTF are you talking about. All of the addicts i know use addiction as an escape because they usually have much worse things going on in their lives.

You have no idea wtf yur talking about Livia.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I understand the whole addiction thing, but I don't buy into the whole "poor thing felt worthless" idea. Addicts I've known have been terribly self-centred.They don't take drugs because they hate themselves, they take drugs because it makes them feel good, and then they're hooked.

I am sorry that she's dead, but I'm surprised at the massive outpouring of grief for a woman who, while she was a good singer, had been a total mess for years and now seems to have been elevated to the status of tortured martyr.

It was the same with Amy Winehouse.

Excuses being made for why she took drugs, making it out to be everyone else and their dogs fault etc etc

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It was the same with Amy Winehouse.

Excuses being made for why she took drugs, making it out to be everyone else and their dogs fault etc etc

This is my view too... A death is a death, it's sad because that was a person who loved and was loved by other people. Obviously as an iconic singer, she meant a lot to a lot of people, and that is a shame too. I don't think there's much point lamenting what might have been if she hadn't met Bobby Brown or blaming him for what happened to her - nobody but the two of them would have known the ins and outs of their situation and it's unfair to make him a scapegoat.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It was the same with Amy Winehouse.

Excuses being made for why she took drugs, making it out to be everyone else and their dogs fault etc etc

so who's fault was it then? You think people just takedrugs as some sort of attention seeking publicity stunt?? really?

If you believe that then yu are no better than a racist, or sexist, or homophobe.

Serious ignorance right there.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Livia

I understand the whole addiction thing, but I don't buy into the whole "poor thing felt worthless" idea. Addicts I've known have been terribly self-centred.They don't take drugs because they hate themselves, they take drugs because it makes them feel good, and then they're hooked.

I am sorry that she's dead, but I'm surprised at the massive outpouring of grief for a woman who, while she was a good singer, had been a total mess for years and now seems to have been elevated to the status of tortured martyr.

I can't really say that I've known any addicts tbh, but I do believe that no one else can help them...they have to do it themselves...so what you say is fair comment

[arista]

[Wildcat!]

Ive been truly shocked by this. May God have mercy on your soul Whitney, and you will be remembered! I wish her family a lot of strenght.

[Wildcat!]

I am so disgusted by these tabloids headlines! Its like vultures, !!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I am so disgusted by these tabloids headlines! Its like vultures, !!

Would you Prefer this Front page with a Question mark

[Marc]

She was troubled clearly

[Marc]

Aw I didn't see what arista posted ^

She drowned?

[Ammi]

I think she died in the bathtub but it's not known if she drowned or was already dead...they also found prescription drugs in the room

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I think she died in the bathtub but it's not known if she drowned or was already dead...they also found prescription drugs in the room

Yes Common for a older lady singer.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Common for a older lady singer.

not just ladies,. the older men like their drugs too... michael jackson, elvis, hello?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

not just ladies,. the older men like their drugs too... michael jackson, elvis, hello?

Oh god, Elvis...I think it would be worse to die on the loo than in the nude...what am I saying...I wouldn't be alive to feel embarrassed

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Common for a older lady singer.

..what I meant Arista was that we don't know for sure whether she overdosed on these drugs, accidently or otherwise or whether she drowned...not that them being there was unusual at all...I presume we won't know until the autopsy

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..what I meant Arista was that we don't know for sure whether she overdosed on these drugs, accidently or otherwise or whether she drowned...not that them being there was unusual at all...I presume we won't know until the autopsy

don't think the autopsy will show much, the toxicology tests will takes weeks, that's what CNN is saying at least.

Same with Amy Whinehouse.

Not that it matters much. i think we all know why both Whitney and Whinehouse died.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..what I meant Arista was that we don't know for sure whether she overdosed on these drugs, accidently or otherwise or whether she drowned...not that them being there was unusual at all...I presume we won't know until the autopsy

Sure I am sure Tomorrow More Front page Shockers.

She was not looking good on Thursday more Drunk

[lostalex]

Shocking. So young.

She lived 2 lives in the time of 1/2 a life though. rest in glorious peace Whitney. <3

[Marc]

Oh right, oh god the mental images of her just falling in and not being able to get out are harrowing.

Sorry for now putting that in your heads!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marc

Oh right, oh god the mental images of her just falling in and not being able to get out are harrowing.

Sorry for now putting that in your heads!

No its what legal meds she had and booze
in her body that made her crash out - in the wrong place

[lostalex]

Dying nude is my worst fear! How horrible to die in that way. I always think about how they say thousands of people die every year in their bathrooms, slipping while getting out of the shower, i'm paranoid about it.

I think the bathroom is the most common room in yur house to die in. i really DON'T want to die nude.

I hate thinking about it. So embarassing.