[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So why has this "victim" said he feels responsible for aaron going, wants him back in and thinks he was a good friend and a good housemate? And why aren't the police involved? Doesn't everyone have a duty to make sure this dangerous sex attacker doesn't assault others in future?

Where has Joel said this?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Where has Joel said this?

In the BB house. He is on big brother, you know.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

In the BB house. He is on big brother, you know.

Yeah, yeah. Is there a video? I didn't watch BOTS

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Trust me I'm not wrong.

Aaron's behaviour wasn't much different to Dappy, Luisa, or Perez in their sexual outbursts.

It was totally different and you are totally wrong

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Yeah, yeah. Is there a video? I didn't watch BOTS

Yes but I can't remember where I watched it now. It might have been on bots actually.

You see him looking devastated and blaming himself and the other housemates telling him that it isn't his fault. And he goes into the diary room asking if aaron will be back.


You can see he did not want him to go at all.

All this stuff about sexual assault is utter hysterical nonsense from the PC brigade.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Wow at the nastiness towards Mock just for not pandering to common opinion.

Isn't that just the Dezzy and Liam way?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's a really rude nasty thing to say dezzy, I happen to agree that Aaron should still be in there and a warning would suffice. My parents didn't fail me I rationalised the situation.

And Dezzy wonders why some members hate him.

For a Mod to his too petulant and rude.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think the issue is pretty clear-cut. Someone on another forum explained it best, using your penis to make someone else feel uncomfortable is certainly grounds for expulsion.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh another reason that Joel did that in the Diary Room was because he was scared about what would happen to his political career afterwards, understandable I suppose, but another Housemate has lost their place because of this action.

[RichardG]

With the extent to which it went, yes, he should've been removed.

I don't think it should have been let to go that far, he should've been called to the diary room straight away once he started 'flashing' as soon as it was clear Joel was uncomfortable (heck, he should've been warned days ago, then maybe he never wouldve tried this in the first place - even better!!). Equally everyone in the bedroom should've stopped laughing and encouraging him to continue. Then he could've been given a final warning and remained in the house, though of course there's nothing to say he wouldn't have just gone to the extreme he did tonight on some other day in the future anyway.

I don't think Aaron intended to be nasty, he probably messes around with his friends like that in a jokey way in his own circles. It just wasn't appropriate in the house and particularly with someone who clearly wasn't happy with it.

[billy123]

Well all i can say is lets hope that those people trying to defend Aarons actions dont ever have to listen to a teenage family member tell them how a bloke cornered them in a bedroom and exposed themselves and tried to rub their genitals against them and even though they told them to stop they just kept doing it.

I dare say you would be singing a different song then.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by the truth

It was totally different and you are totally wrong

The Overreactors don't do themselves any favours stating their opinions as fact and insulting members earlier on for having a different opinion.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Well all i can say is lets hope that those people trying to defend Aarons actions dont ever have to listen to a teenage family member tell them how a bloke cornered them in a bedroom and exposed themselves and tried to rub their genitals against them and even though they told them to stop they just kept doing it.

I dare say you would be singing a different song then.

But that's a different scenario without seeing the context of it.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The Overreactors don't do themselves any favours stating their opinions as fact and insulting members earlier on for having a different opinion.

I agree 100% Mock, passionate debate is fine but when people insinuate you were brought up wrong or are basically a fool for not following the popular opinion it's plain nastiness.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not a matter of opinion, it was pretty much a sexual assault. If you can't see what's wrong with what Aaron did tonight then every adult in your life has failed you.

That's a bit harsh Dezzy

People should be able to express their opinions without someone/a mod basically insinuating they was bought up wrong

[Macie Lightfoot]

omfg the bolded part

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't that just the Dezzy and Liam way?

Excuse you, when was I nasty? I said you were wrong, I wasn't nasty in the slightest, I'd prefer it if you didn't say otherwise tyvm.

I have never been remotely nasty to you, not to my knowledge anyway, so to say that it is 'my way' is bang out of order

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dollface

That's a bit harsh Dezzy

People should be able to express their opinions without someone/a mod basically insinuating they was bought up wrong

Sometimes an opinion is just wrong though.

If it is your opinion that 2+2=5 or that people don't have the right to pray where they choose or that sexual assault is sometimes okay.. then your "opinion" is just incorrect and in all of these examples an adult should have taught each person right from wrong. Extreme or not, Dezzy had a point.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Withano

Sometimes an opinion is just wrong though.

If it is your opinion that 2+2=5 or that people don't have the right to pray where they choose or that sexual assault is sometimes okay.. then your "opinion" is just incorrect and in all of these examples an adult should have taught each person right from wrong. Extreme or not, Dezzy had a point.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Withano

Sometimes an opinion is just wrong though.

If it is your opinion that 2+2=5 or that people don't have the right to pray where they choose or that sexual assault is sometimes okay.. then your "opinion" is just incorrect and in all of these examples an adult should have taught each person right from wrong. Extreme or not, Dezzy had a point.

Mathematical equations are slightly different to moral questions. Though I must say that to refer to what Aaron did as "Sexual Assault" looks as silly to me as saying 2 + 2 = 5.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Sometimes an opinion is just wrong though.

If it is your opinion that 2+2=5 or that people don't have the right to pray where they choose or that sexual assault is sometimes okay.. then your "opinion" is just incorrect and in all of these examples an adult should have taught each person right from wrong. Extreme or not, Dezzy had a point.

Where has anyone claimed that sexual assault is OK?

It is my opinion that what occured wasn't a sexual assault. You can stamp your feet all you like but you won't take away my right to have that opinion.

[Amy Jade]

Mathamatical equations arent opinions...omg haha

[Amy Jade]

ThriceShy and beetlejuice:

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Withano

Sometimes an opinion is just wrong though.

If it is your opinion that 2+2=5 or that people don't have the right to pray where they choose or that sexual assault is sometimes okay.. then your "opinion" is just incorrect and in all of these examples an adult should have taught each person right from wrong. Extreme or not, Dezzy had a point.

2+2=5 isn't an opinion though, it's an incorrect math sum, lol. What happened tonight on BB wasn't sexual assault so anyone saying that Aaron shouldn't have been removed are in no way saying sexual assault is sometimes okay.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Excuse you, when was I nasty? I said you were wrong, I wasn't nasty in the slightest, I'd prefer it if you didn't say otherwise tyvm.

I have never been remotely nasty to you, not to my knowledge anyway, so to say that it is 'my way' is bang out of order

Fair enough, my mistake, I apologize.

I still standby Dezzy though, and anybody that thinks that his views on this are spot on should be infracted as well as Dezzy losing his Mod status.