[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Nobody is gathering hate. All that has happened is we have received some new info that exposes Chloe's game plan in the house.

It is perfectly reasonable to consider it when deciding whether to vote for her to win.

All publicly available information which chloe has put into the public domain. She even seems proud of the incident where she accused a taxi driver of kidnapping her and that is official "canon" information which she gave to a DS:BB interview.


An example I have given previously would be if, say, Cameron from BB4 was discovered to be totally non-religious and a frequenter of prostitutes, during the final week of BB4, it would be legitimate to judge him on that.

But you look an awful lot like someone who cares, for someone who claims they don't care that much. Why not just let dislikers of chloe have their thread?

Where have I not allowed you your thread?

I am a member of this forum and am allowed to put forward my opinion on these threads.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I wouldn't be so sure about that, people love a 'nice' dullard (see: most of the winners of BBUK) and Chloe fits the bill. Let's hope she doesn't but I wouldn't count her out.

I know it doesn't work, because the public don't have a ****ing clue what they're doing and it's time their involvement in the show was ended. But that is all that they should be judged on. There's no problem with putting on a persona per se, just that the persona offers something to the series.

Spoken like a true BB fan.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Spoken like a true BB fan.

I am indeed!

Big Brother can, has and does work without a public vote. And it does so better, also.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I am indeed!

Big Brother can, has and does work without a public vote. And it does so better, also.

Eh?

The whole idea of Big Brother is Who goes? You (the public) decide. Ironically, given the fact that I doubt we get a say anymore on C5, since we only see what the producers want us to see, but still. If you're not happy with that format (the real format of BBUK), then you can't really call yourself a BBUK fan.

I think BBUSA is more tailored to your needs, TBH.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Has anyone on this thread dissected instagram though?

Well you seem to have gathered intel on the cost of her boyfriend's watch and how much it cost per night to stay in her hotel. That's a lot of information to gather from a photograph.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by BB6

Eh?

The whole idea of Big Brother is Who goes? You (the public) decide. If you're not happy with that format (the real format of BBUK), then you can't really call yourself a BBUK fan.

I think BBUSA is more tailored to your needs.

No it isn't, the whole idea of Big Brother is putting a group of strangers into a house locked away from the outside world and watching how they interact with each other. That's an international premise and any formats of nominations and evictions that differ by country are merely just that, varying formats. It does not mean that is inherently what the show is about or has to be forever, just how each country chooses to run the show.

He said 'BB fan', not BBUK fan. I am a Big Brother fan and to be honest anyone that watches more than one version is more of a fan than someone who doesn't as far as I'm concerned.

But yes, it is.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

She's entitled to do that though, if you want to put on a persona on a gameshow then so be it. All that's important is whether that persona contributes anything to the show or not

And in Chloe's case for the most part, it hasn't

Her persona hasn't made me want to throw my laptop and that's more than I can say about the other finalists

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Her persona hasn't made me want to throw my laptop and that's more than I can say about the other finalists

And that's fine, my point was that creating a persona on a gameshow isn't bad per se, just that it's an interesting one

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well you seem to have gathered intel on the cost of her boyfriend's watch and how much it cost per night to stay in her hotel. That's a lot of information to gather from a photograph.

I didn't gather it. I simply read it on a forum. I have never used social media and never will.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No it isn't, the whole idea of Big Brother is putting a group of strangers into a house locked away from the outside world and watching how they interact with each other. That's an international premise and any formats of nominations and evictions that differ by country are merely just that, varying formats. It does not mean that is inherently what the show is about or has to be forever, just how each country chooses to run the show.

He said 'BB fan', not BBUK fan. I am a Big Brother fan and to be honest anyone that watches more than one version is more of a fan than someone who doesn't as far as I'm concerned.

But yes, it is.

The original BB format has a public vote. Anything else isn't really BB.

[Livia]

I studied hard to get a profession, I have a great career, good income... from the outside people might consider me middle class. However, I was born into a working class family and I consider myself a working class girl, I always will. What you own has nothing to do with it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I didn't gather it. I simply read it on a forum. I have never used social media and never will.

So not only is it all assumptions but it's second hand assumptions that you've gathered from a forum and nothing factual.

Ok. That makes the thread so much more worthwhile.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So not only is it all assumptions but it's second hand assumptions that you've gathered from a forum and nothing factual.

Ok. That makes the thread so much more worthwhile.

What info has been posted that isn't factual?

Are the posts on social media photoshop jobs?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I studied hard to get a profession, I have a great career, good income... from the outside people might consider me middle class. However, I was born into a working class family and I consider myself a working class girl, I always will. What you own has nothing to do with it.

Would 5k change your life?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

What info has been posted that isn't factual?

Are the posts on social media photoshop jobs?

I don't think it matters considering you apparently haven't been on her accounts, it's all second hand information.

I'll talk to the organ grinder, not the monkey.

[billy123]

I dont really like Chloe i think she has shown her true colours in the last couple of weeks and is a bit of a brat but the picking at her personal life is pathetic and embarrassing for those that resort to it.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't think it matters considering you apparently haven't been on her accounts, it's all second hand information.

I'll talk to the organ grinder, not the monkey.

I didnt start the thread and nor did I claim to.

I simply read the info and it lowered, even further, my opinion of Chloe.

I think you should take it up with the organ grinder as I have never claimed to be him.

The op has produced good info though. I'm grateful to him.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

The original BB format has a public vote. Anything else isn't really BB.

Not true. The premise of Big Brother, as inspiration was taken from 1984, is to put a group of strangers into a house secluded from the outside world and watch them interact (24 hours a day, which is something foreign versions that don't have a public vote still have, whilst BBUK doesn't. I'd say that's more important to what 'real' BB is) as an all seeing power has control over their lives. This is true in pretty much all international incarnations of the show. The way they handle their eviction processes is totally separate and down to the individual countries themselves, they are not inherent to the premise of the show.

And indeed I would go so far as to say that allowing the public to control and have influence upon the show actually takes away from what Big Brother is all about, which is watching them interact free from outside contact, which is exactly what a public vote is all about. By letting the housemates get on with it themselves, that's far more pure and far more ~reality~ than when you let the public interfere.

Your argument that 'the original format did this so therefore that's the one that every other format must copy' is akin to saying 'well the first general elections only allowed rich white men to vote so anything else where women, black people and the poor can take part is not a real election'.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Would 5k change your life?

I already said that what you own has nothing to do with it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I dont really like Chloe i think she has shown her true colours in the last couple of weeks and is a bit of a brat but the picking at her personal life is pathetic and embarrassing for those that resort to it.

I feel the same bobnot. Perfectly put.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I already said that what you own has nothing to do with it.

But Chloe said 5k would change her life. She was lying.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Not true. The premise of Big Brother, as inspiration was taken from 1984, is to put a group of strangers into a house secluded from the outside world and watch them interact (24 hours a day, which is something foreign versions that don't have a public vote still have, whilst BBUK doesn't. I'd say that's more important to what 'real' BB is) as an all seeing power has control over their lives. This is true in pretty much all international incarnations of the show. The way they handle their eviction processes is totally separate and down to the individual countries themselves, they are not inherent to the premise of the show.

And indeed I would go so far as to say that allowing the public to control and have influence upon the show actually takes away from what Big Brother is all about, which is watching them interact free from outside contact, which is exactly what a public vote is all about. By letting the housemates get on with it themselves, that's far more pure and far more ~reality~ than when you let the public interfere.

Your argument that 'the original format did this so therefore that's the one that every other format must copy' is akin to saying 'well the first general elections only allowed rich white men to vote so anything else where women, black people and the poor can take part is not a real election'.

Who would control evictions in your version?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Who would control evictions in your version?

The housemates themselves. Far more interesting, far more fair and far more of a ~reality show~ than letting the public interfere.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

But Chloe said 5k would change her life. She was lying.

You don't know that. You just dislike her and your dislike is clouding your view and encouraging you to make a silly mountain out of a tiny molehill.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The housemates themselves. Far more interesting, far more fair and far more of a ~reality show~ than letting the public interfere.

Yes what a good idea. Let a getalong smug gang form in week one and then pick off all the interesting housemates.

You should pitch that to channel 5. It will have 20 million viewers for sure.