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chromosomes are physical. so yes, it is.
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Do I have to explain?
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..I'm glad that she's been transferred to a female prison and although extremely grim for her, it's good that it's been highlighted about transgender people who are still going through the transition in situations like this because it's obviously a bit of a grey area...I also wonder if her many years on replacement hormone and depression medication have had any bearing on her aggression so I hope that she has some help for that as well, if that's the case...
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..yeah, I believe so Withano...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34675778 ..I signed it also, I think it was maybe any TiBB members signing that got them worried tbh.../you don't mess with us, eh...
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Can I just say this reffering to some people on here. If you don't know what a transgender is, how the transition works or about the identity issues that they have, then just stay away from this thread cause some people on here have already appeared majorly transphobic.
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The voice of reason
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Rape is not about whether you look like a man or women its about power and a rapist will find anybody vulnerable to show there authority. Also no rape has been confirmed its just made up by people trying to be heroes on this subject.
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What if the top dog recruits this person as their muscle and they have an unfair strength advantage against all the women in there.The top dog will be unbeatable.Or if another prisoner recruits this person and they take down the top dog?The dynamics in the prison will totally change.It worked for Bea Smith when she recruited a ******.She was unstopable after that.Unless the governer is a psychopath and tries to take the top dog down.But will the governer out smart her?Who knows.
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..it's not about the law though..the law decides and decided her sentencing of 12 weeks but it doesn't decide whether a male or female prison is the one where the sentence is served, that's for the prison service to do and that decision has now transferred her to a female prison...the law is obviously also quite grey on this...for a transgender during transition and before the final surgery because she is a female, living as and medically declared a female ../so that situation has to be addressed for any possible other similar cases...
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If this thread is about prison then why have you made wrong comments about transgenders yourself?
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Oops, I didn't noticed I said 'he' in my first post, although I would have thought it was obvious it was a mistake by me referring to her with female pronouns through the rest of my posts
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. This thread about how the law views her, and her not getting her legal documents sorted. If you turn up at the airport with an out of date passport and are refused permission to fly, it's not down to the airport staff to sort it for you, and its not their fault you can't fly, this case is no different
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gender
ˈdʒɛndə/Submit noun 1. the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones). "traditional concepts of gender" But the waters were muddied by her reportedly still having Male genitalia, and also not completing the necessary documentation, so by law 'SHE' was still a 'HE' - irrespective of 'Gender'. If I was in prison and she was put into my cell, I would treat her as a female - but then again, that has been the exact problem; that male prisoners would do exactly that - hasn't it? Last edited by kirklancaster; 31-10-2015 at 10:34 AM. |
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Generally regularly hard to understand the thinking or logic at times or sentencing by Magistrates, they are a law unto themselves and this is disgraceful.
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It might be a little off topic (I'm losing track with this thread lol) but I just want to say (because there's been a lot of talk about her still have a penis) that we may not know the full reasons behind why she hasn't undergone the 'full' physical transformation yet. It might not necessarily be choice. I think I've mentioned before that I've got a friend who is a female to male transsexual and for a long time he lived as a man without having the final operation done. There was a lot of red tape for him to get through and for ages he was refused surgery by the psychologists assessing him for quite complex reasons (even though all the other surgeries had been agreed on and completed!), so for a while he was in a physical state of half and half I suppose you could say, but that wasn't his fault. And of course medical information like that is generally confidential and so it may not have been reported on in this case. I'm just saying that it might not be her fault or choice that not all the surgeries are completed.
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