[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Adjoa was seriously ****ing annoying and had a filthy mouth, was obsessed with 'pussy' from what I remember. I don't know where all of this 'she was great and did nothing wrong has come from'

Totally agree....I liked her at first, she was a fellow Brummie from what I recall...but her constantly talking about pussy and her childish sulking because she had been nominated were exactly why people in and out of the house voted her off....I do believe that despite what Rylan thinks, there are a lot of people who went off Tiffany for the same reason and that contributed to her coming fourth...too Vulger in the last week....puts some people off...was def why Adjoa got booted.

Ironically when a man spoke like that, Ken Moorley, he was thrown out of the house for it....I don't hear the ' it's not fare ' police on here fighting his corner over that injustice

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Totally agree....I liked her at first, she was a fellow Brummie from what I recall...but her constantly talking about pussy and her childish sulking because she had been nominated were exactly why people in and out of the house voted her off....I do believe that despite what Rylan thinks, there are a lot of people who went off Tiffany for the same reason and that contributed to her coming fourth...too Vulger in the last week....puts some people off...was def why Adjoa got booted.

Ironically when a man spoke like that, Ken Moorley, he was thrown out of the house for it....I don't hear the ' it's not fare ' police on here fighting his corner over that injustice

Wasn't he thrown out for his story about Frank Bruno? Calling him a n***o. Which was after he'd already called Alexander O'Neal a 'nice big fat n***o'.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Wasn't he thrown out for his story about Frank Bruno? Calling him a n***o. Which was after he'd already called Alexander O'Neal a 'nice big fat n***o'.

I don't believe so...I think he was told that his use of the word was out dated and is offensive now to others and was told to stop with immediate effect...
He was thrown out for inappropriate language regarding his attraction to the young female housemates....just like Tiffany...,in fact he merely said he liked being around the girls when they were in the bathroom...Tiffany actually looked at the naked body of another housemate and made sexual remarks about it.

[Amy Jade]

Rachel Ifon's eviction was awful - she got an invisible edit but when they did show her she came across as a sweet, fun - loving girl - being evicted over John James and Dave was tragic and is still one of my least favourite evictions because of the nasty crowd treating her so awfully when shed done nothing to deserve it put me off the show, I watched only a few episodes after she left and quit altogether when Corin went.

[ScottyT]

A black woman could win this show if they show the public they are a decent human being - none have done it so far.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by ScottyT

A black woman could win this show if they show the public they are a decent human being - none have done it so far.

this female was genuinely nice and lovely aka a decent human being.. gets evicted (On Vote To Evict)

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

this female was genuinely nice and lovely aka a decent human being.. gets evicted (On Vote To Evict)

I have no idea who this is

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I have no idea who this is

Rachel from BB11 she was a newbie.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Rachel from BB11 she was a newbie.

Still don't remember her :S

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Rachel from BB11 she was a newbie.

Enigma Rachel

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by LukeB

this female was genuinely nice and lovely aka a decent human being.. gets evicted (On Vote To Evict)

Tbf wasn't she the one that was suppose to be friends with Ben and then nominated him and worked in cahoots with Mario to get him evicted?

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

this female was genuinely nice and lovely aka a decent human being.. gets evicted (On Vote To Evict)

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by ScottyT

A black woman could win this show if they show the public they are a decent human being - none have done it so far.

Plenty have been decent (which itself isn't exactly criteria for winning nowadays when people like Helen Wood are doing it).

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Plenty have been decent (which itself isn't exactly criteria for winning nowadays when people like Helen Wood are doing it).

Cmon, Helen ius an exception to the rule surely. She would never have been anywhere near the final without the pass and some still think she only won as part of a betting scam.

No other winner has been as horrendous as Helen. Infact usually its the quiet 'nice' ones that win in the end

This is on normal BB. Celeb BB comes down to how many fans you have pre-show usually it seems

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Cmon, Helen ius an exception to the rule surely. She would never have been anywhere near the final without the pass and some still think she only won as part of a betting scam.

No other winner has been as horrendous as Helen. Infact usually its the quiet 'nice' ones that win in the end

This is on normal BB. Celeb BB comes down to how many fans you have pre-show usually it seems

Or the useless ones that bb sells us as nice.

For example Chloe, she was mean and nasty, nothing was nice about her when they were trying to sell her as "a nice normal girl"

Or Sam, i literally cant see how he was soo nice

Or Josie, nasty bitch made Caoimhe leave

vs vs

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Cmon, Helen ius an exception to the rule surely. She would never have been anywhere near the final without the pass and some still think she only won as part of a betting scam.

No other winner has been as horrendous as Helen. Infact usually its the quiet 'nice' ones that win in the end

This is on normal BB. Celeb BB comes down to how many fans you have pre-show usually it seems

Helen would have been out the door without a final pass and a good final week edit gave her the edge, that's how fickle the voters are

[susie q]

Originally Posted by ScottyT

A black woman could win this show if they show the public they are a decent human being - none have done it so far.

Rusty Lee would be good, she comes across as quite strong, but funny with it. She would also be a good cook, Ive still got one of her recipe books.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by susie q

Rusty Lee would be good, she comes across as quite strong, but funny with it. She would also be a good cook, Ive still got one of her recipe books.

Everybody has a dark side to themselves though and you don't know if BB would just show the negative sides to her personality just to bring her down like they did with Charley Uchea in BB8 who was a lot nicer on Live Feed and was deeply misunderstood imo.

I feel it's less about the public being racist and more to do with the production wanting to vilify black contestants full stop, but the public are more naturally against women full stop so that's why the black women get it worse.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Hayden

And that's a fact.

Thats not true.
We need a UK Black Lady
next time

[ScottyT]

Why does a black woman need to win it anyway? You win it if you get the most votes. This thread is so pointless.

[Kazanne]

From what I have seen of the UK version,the black women they decide to put in have all been mouthy,uncouth , Tiffany was probably the best of the bunch.I'm sure if they chose better we would see a black woman win,why is it so important anyway ? Colour doesn't really come into it,it is also NOT the reason she lost.

[854]

Plus the woman who gave Helen the final pass was, drumroll please, black. Smh. Black women done so much for bb, yet underappreciated.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by 854

Plus the woman who gave Helen the final pass was, drumroll please, black. Smh. Black women done so much for bb, yet underappreciated.

Pauline is like the worst Black woman in bb history

[alex_front2]

If I were going on BB I would just be a much more cerebral "Nasty Nick" type villain or BB12 Aaron anti-hero rather than be likeable. The public would never vote for me if I were nice, funny due to 'suffering from 'black female-itis', no chance of winning the prize etc so might as well cause some dramatic scenes.

The hilarious thing is if the producers filled the house with 15 of the funniest, most charismatic, affable, wittiest, dramatic, endearing, sneakiest, entertaining cleverest black women and just 1 man such as ueber dullards: BB4 Gos, Scott, BB7 George , Michael BB 8 Jonathan Seany, David. BB9 Stuart, Mohammed Mohammad, Michael etc a black woman would still not win. Actually they should do this and I'd be right. In fact when the dull guy wins ala Cameron folk will say 'cause he's a good guy' etc

[*mazedsalv**]

OK, i know it may not be a popular view, but I agree with the OP.

And FYI, I never thought Tiffany should win because she was black, I thought she should win because IMO she was one of the best HMs ever. If she couldn't win, I agree that I don't think any black woman would... well, certainly not an American black woman!

you get people like Rachel and Rachael in BB11 where the latter was booted first and booed to high heavens because she dared to not bow down to the bellend that is John James... who for the first 8 weeks of the series, was loved based on just his looks despite him being a nasty HM.

And then the other Rachel who was a very kind woman who was booed on exit.

But that's not to say it's just black women treated badly, the likes of Stephanie in BB9 was white and was unfairly booted out and had a mixed reaction despite her being a nice girl.

Do we forget that Mel was the first person to get a less than positive reaction in BB1... she was black.

Then the first if the horrific boos in BB3 went to Adele, which is fair because she was nasty.

Vanessa BB6 was a "meh" HM, but she got a dreadful reception.

The only thing we can say is that only Alison, Gina and Tiffany have been cheered on exit and were black. I understand there have been less black HMs than white ones, but how 3 out of at least what, 50? have been cheered...

Maybe we will have a black woman win in the future, but there will be a one in a billion chance that an American black woman would when you look at the fact there has only been 1 black winner... who was a guy, and 1 American winner (Gary).