[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

In the absence of actual proof.

I demand we get Dezzy on a lie detector test to settle this once and for all.

[empire]

biggins is from the old school gay generation that have some black and white views on things,

[Marsh.]

It's an improvement on BB17, which isn't saying much I grant you.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's an improvement on BB17, which isn't saying much I grant you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You agree? Oh, crumbs.

[Withano]

Carry on refusing to accept evidence because you're opinion is that the entire world around you is wrong. You look great. Anyway read literature or carry on having a debate on a subject you have clearly never researched. I'm not here to entertain you anymore.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Carry on refusing to accept evidence because you're opinion is that the entire world around you is wrong. You look great. Anyway read literature or carry on having a debate on a subject you have clearly never researched. I'm not here to entertain you anymore.

You haven't read a word of those papers you linked to, have you?

No wonder you are beating such a hasty retreat.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You haven't read a word of those papers you linked to, have you?

No wonder you are beating such a hasty retreat.

Its 3am, I'm going to sleep you should do the same... Yes I've read all those papers. Not that it matters, you requested papers that proved you wrong, they're there..? Or are you refusing to accept them as evidence because in your opinion, the world is wrong and you are right.. Refusing evidence is predictable of somebody who understands they're wrong but doesn't want to accept it. But sure get the last comment in because thats how winning arguments work on the internet. Good luck with secondary school.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You haven't read a word of those papers you linked to, have you?

No wonder you are beating such a hasty retreat.

You asked him for those links.

[sampvt]

Biggins is a superstar in his own mind and very old fashioned to boot. He is confused with the Miriad of tags and titles hung on people these days. You are either gay or straight and that's where it ends for him. Bi sexual people just drag his theory down so he slaps it. His views and in a way he's right. If you are neither gay nor straight you must be confused and he probably views bi s as sickos looking for sex from what ever source is available and he isn't a sexually orientated gay. He's an old queen who wants gays to be viewed as the same as straights so he isn't far off point.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Biggins is a superstar in his own mind and very old fashioned to boot. He is confused with the Miriad of tags and titles hung on people these days. You are either gay or straight and that's where it ends for him. Bi sexual people just drag his theory down so he slaps it. His views and in a way he's right. If you are neither gay nor straight you must be confused and he probably views bi s as sickos looking for sex from what ever source is available and he isn't a sexually orientated gay. He's an old queen who wants gays to be viewed as the same as straights so he isn't far off point.

Not sexually oriented?

The number of times I've heard him blather on about blow jobs and it's only day 6.

[sampvt]

Bi sexuality is used as a label to experience sex in all ways. It's very rarely used by a person who isn't sexually orientated.

[ThriceShy]

The bottom line is that biggins is entitled to his opinion. You can disagree with him and you can judge him for it, but he is entitled to it. BB isn't part of any safe space for special snowflakes.

I suspect people would like to see him get a warning from BB for daring to have that opinion. Thankfully that didn't happen.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

The bottom line is that biggins is entitled to his opinion. You can disagree with him and you can judge him for it, but he is entitled to it. BB isn't part of any safe space for special snowflakes.

I suspect people would like to see him get a warning from BB for daring to have that opinion. Thankfully that didn't happen.

This is what most of us seem to be doing, I don't think anyone's actually said he isn't entitled to his opinion... so I don't see the relevance of this post?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

The bottom line is that biggins is entitled to his opinion. You can disagree with him and you can judge him for it, but he is entitled to it. BB isn't part of any safe space for special snowflakes.

I suspect people would like to see him get a warning from BB for daring to have that opinion. Thankfully that didn't happen.

Biggins is not attacking bisexual people or inciting hate towards them....he just doesn't believe that they are all honest and he's dead right, a lot of em aren't...I think his views are more about men than women ...it's rare a gay man suddenly becomes bisexual, it's usually straight ones who do....which shows the pressure society used to put men under to be a certain way and still does today to some extent ...Biggins comes from a time when bisexual men were mostly gay guys in the closet or in denial so I can understand why he holds on to his views about them.....he's not totally accurate in his generalisation of bisexuals but he's allowed his view point. My grandmother didn't like Germans and she had every right to her opinion because her experiences of them justified her prejudice. Biggins experience of bisexual men will be what's behind his assessment of them and that's a shame for him because things are different today but I understand why he thinks the way he does even if I don't agree with him.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Biggins is not attacking bisexual people or inciting hate towards them....he just doesn't believe that they are all honest and he's dead right, a lot of em aren't...I think his views are more about men than women ...it's rare a gay man suddenly becomes bisexual, it's usually straight ones who do....which shows the pressure society used to put men under to be a certain way and still does today to some extent ...Biggins comes from a time when bisexual men were mostly gay guys in the closet or in denial so I can understand why he holds on to his views about them.....he's not totally accurate in his generalisation of bisexuals but he's allowed his view point. My grandmother didn't like Germans and she had every right to her opinion because her experiences of them justified her prejudice. Biggins experience of bisexual men will be what's behind his assessment of them and that's a shame for him because things are different today but I understand why he thinks the way he does even if I don't agree with him.

It just seems a bit silly to believe that some people are attracted to the opposite sex and some people are attracted to the same sex but that it's completely impossible for some people to be attracted to both

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It just seems a bit silly to believe that some people are attracted to the opposite sex and some people are attracted to the same sex but that it's completely impossible for some people to be attracted to both

Of course it's silly....everything about him is silly....he's a silly old man....I don't like him....I just can understand why he may have that point of view....in a way I would struggle to understand if he was a young person ...I wouldn't defend him if I thought his prejudice had no reason behind it, he's the last person I would defend...as soon as he said it I asked myself why and I realised its because of the era he's from.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Of course it's silly....everything about him is silly....he's a silly old man....I don't like him....I just can understand why he may have that point of view....in a way I would struggle to understand if he was a young person ...I wouldn't defend him if I thought his prejudice had no reason behind it, he's the last person I would defend...as soon as he said it I asked myself why and I realised its because of the era he's from.

I can understand why he thinks that some men come out as bisexual before they come out as being gay, i get why he thinks that and have no doubt that happens sometimes (probably alot more in the past when he was younger) but to say that it's totally impossible for anyone to be Bisexual is just a bit illogical really, if you can be attracted to one or the other why couldn't a person be attracted to both?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It just seems a bit silly to believe that some people are attracted to the opposite sex and some people are attracted to the same sex but that it's completely impossible for some people to be attracted to both

This.

It would be kind of like saying you accept that one man has a penchant for blonde women and another man prefers brunettes but it's completely inconceivable for a man to be attracted to both. It's just ridiculous.

[hot2go]

I can't speak for bisexual women cause I have no exp of that plus I think women are attracted to people on a more emotional level and therefore more likely to be open about it.

[lewis111]

It's not really an opinion though (sorry) but a false statement
Being against same sex marriage or something would be an opinion he would be entitled to, but he's just going around stating things that are false

[StephenPullen]

So he has a different opinion than you do. Does that mean he is a bad person? Get over yourself.

[lewis111]

1) never said he was a bad person
2) I never said anything that made me seem like I'm full of myself
3) ITS NOT AN OPINION it's like saying grass doesn't exist or females don't exist it's a false statement he made

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by lewis111

1) never said he was a bad person
2) I never said anything that made me seem like I'm full of myself
3) ITS NOT AN OPINION it's like saying grass doesn't exist or females don't exist it's a false statement he made

He didn't say bisexuals don't exist. Why pretend he said something that he didn't say?

He said that he believes bisexuals have a different motive than they portray.

Just his opinion.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He didn't say bisexuals don't exist. Why pretend he said something that he didn't say?

He said that he believes bisexuals have a different motive than they portray.

Just his opinion.

Yes, and by saying that he's implying bisexuality isn't a real thing ergo does not exist. Since they're being dishonest about it?

Maybe try understanding the so-called "opinion" you're defending?