[Kazanne]

Lets hope next time someone walks in and blows the bloody lot of them up, afterall it was a lady who was dressed in fine linen who could never hurt anyone.pfft no wonder people get attacked too many people turning a blind eye.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Lets hope next time someone walks in and blows the bloody lot of them up, afterall it was a lady who was dressed in fine linen who could never hurt anyone.pfft no wonder people get attacked too many people turning a blind eye.

There were lots of women there and he'd seen them too.
All dressed in red.
Hardly wanting to be quietly infiltrating.
She had climate change all over her sash.

Someone walking in to blow all up including themself would not be in an entourage like she was with.

You have astounded me Kazanne.
Because if this had been a Labour MP.
You'd have been likely jumping in applauding all those jumping in to totally condemn him on here.

I'd be saying all I'm saying no matter what Party he was from, or even if he wasn't an MP at all.

A suicide bomber you say she could have been now.
Really reaching in your defence of him now that is.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There were lots of women there and he'd seen them too.
All dressed in red.
Hardly wanting to be quietly infiltrating.
She had climate change all over her sash.

Someone walking in to blow all up including themself would not be in an entourage like she was with.

You have astounded me Kazanne.
Because if this had been a Labour MP.
You'd have been likely jumping in applauding all those jumping in to totally condemn him on here.

I'd be saying all I'm saying no matter what Party he was from, or even if he wasn't an MP at all.

A suicide bomber you say she could have been now.
Really reaching in your defence of him now that is.

Joey, prepare to be astounded again,lol,I m NOT defending the bloke,never heard of him before,i don't care what party he is from,i didn't know that either, all I am saying is when people are surprised in that sort of environment we react in different ways,sometimes when one of my kids have scared me I have reacted in a irrational way and shouted at them in the heat of that moment, yes he looked to be too rough,but the woman herself thinks its no big deal so why is everyone making it one, it's like the milkshake argument many see it as harmless which of course milk shake is but acid is not and it well have been that,surely its best to be safe than sorry,that's all,I am not defending his actions but can see it from both sides.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey, prepare to be astounded again,lol,I m NOT defending the bloke

...

all I am saying is when people are surprised in that sort of environment we react in different ways,sometimes when one of my kids have scared me I have reacted in a irrational way and shouted at them in the heat of that moment, yes he looked to be too rough,but the woman herself thinks its no big deal so why is everyone making it one, it's like the milkshake argument many see it as harmless which of course milk shake is but acid is not and it well have been that,surely its best to be safe than sorry,that's all,I am not defending his actions but can see it from both sides.

You are literally defending him right after stating that you're not defending him.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey, prepare to be astounded again,lol,I m NOT defending the bloke,never heard of him before,i don't care what party he is from,i didn't know that either, all I am saying is when people are surprised in that sort of environment we react in different ways,sometimes when one of my kids have scared me I have reacted in a irrational way and shouted at them in the heat of that moment, yes he looked to be too rough,but the woman herself thinks its no big deal so why is everyone making it one, it's like the milkshake argument many see it as harmless which of course milk shake is but acid is not and it well have been that,surely its best to be safe than sorry,that's all,I am not defending his actions but can see it from both sides.

Honestly.
You are trying to tell me, you didn't know he was a Conservative MP.
When the very first headlines stated either Tory MP or Cabinet Minister.

I reiterate.
Had this have been a Labour MP.
You and others would have branded him a thug and representative of left wing Labour extremism.

From the first seconds of this being made known, the one clear headline was he is a Conservative MP.

Someone would need to be on a desert island not to have known that from the start.

Then you in your last section go on to make a further veiled defence of him.
The protesters were annoying but not there to harm or manhandle anyone.
He did, only him.
No one else.

She's okay about it now but was shaken at the time.
You completely unfairly overlook that.

You were absolutely right in your opening line however.
For me to prepare to be astounded again.
I certainly am and totally dismayed staring in disbelief too.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Honestly.
You are trying to tell me, you didn't know he was a Conservative MP.
When the very first headlines stated either Tory MP or Cabinet Minister.

I reiterate.
Had this have been a Labour MP.
You and others would have branded him a thug and representative of left wing Labour extremism.

From the first seconds of this being made known, the one clear headline was he is a Conservative MP.

Someone would need to be on a desert island not to have known that from the start.

Then you in your last section go on to make a further veiled defence of him.
The protesters were annoying but not there to harm or manhandle anyone.
He did, only him.
No one else.

She's okay about it now but was shaken at the time.
You completely unfairly overlook that.

You were absolutely right in your opening line however.
For me to prepare to be astounded again.
I certainly am and totally dismayed staring in disbelief too.

Joey I am too busy to look too deeply into things,I am not a liar I am quite upset that you of all people would think that,I didn't know who he was ,you can believe that or not I don't even know what the occasion was ,I only skim through things sometimes but I did see the incident on the news and have said several times he handled it wrong, so I am NOT defending him at all.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There were lots of women there and he'd seen them too.
All dressed in red.
Hardly wanting to be quietly infiltrating.
She had climate change all over her sash.

Someone walking in to blow all up including themself would not be in an entourage like she was with.

You have astounded me Kazanne.
Because if this had been a Labour MP.
You'd have been likely jumping in applauding all those jumping in to totally condemn him on here.

I'd be saying all I'm saying no matter what Party he was from, or even if he wasn't an MP at all.

A suicide bomber you say she could have been now.
Really reaching in your defence of him now that is.

No you have never attacked anyone personally on this thread, have you Joey, which is quite ironic given your stand on the thread

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No you have never attacked anyone personally on this thread, have you Joey, which is quite ironic given your stand on the thread

I was replying directly to her on that post.
What has that got to do with you.
However since you are not going to let this drop.
I will endeavour never to respond to or mention said member again.

Just mind your own business however with respect Cherie.

You are NOT a mod.
I didn't attack her, I was responding TO her.
With my views.
As to her view.

Just, really mind your own business.
I really don't give a jot as to what you think of me.
Not a single jot.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I was replying directly to her on that post.
What has that got to do with you.
However since you are not going to let this drop.
I will endeavour never to respond to or mention said member again.

Just mind your own business however with respect Cherie.

You are NOT a mod.
I didn't attack her, I was responding TO her.
With my views.
As to her view.

Just, really mind your own business.
I really don't give a jot as to what you think of me.
Not a single jot.

You posted on a public forum, so no I wont be minding my own business if I think someone is being attacked, Kaz had already said she felt upset but you carried on with your thinly passive aggressive veiled insults, you are ASTOUNDED, you feel SICKENED, I mean really? are you sitting reading TiBB gasping at what you are reading, or clutching your pearls do give me a break. and as for referring to me 'as the other one' lmfao....you can call me what you want, I am neither astounded nor sickened as just what I have come to expect from you, this is my last post to you on this topic, but do feel free to have the last word

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Lets hope next time someone walks in and blows the bloody lot of them up, afterall it was a lady who was dressed in fine linen who could never hurt anyone.pfft no wonder people get attacked too many people turning a blind eye.

Violently handle people everywhere you go just in case they’re a terrorist says Kazanne.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

Violently handle people everywhere you go just in case they’re a terrorist says Kazanne.

Just in case? They had unlawfully entered an event at Mansion House, she was heading toward people who could easily be described as targets... but hey, she's a middle-class white woman, she could never be a terrorist, says Withano.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

Just in case? They had unlawfully entered an event at Mansion House, she was heading toward people who could easily be described as targets... but hey, she's a middle-class white woman, she could never be a terrorist, says Withano.

Well if this thread shows anything, I’m a better judge of character than you, so.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well if this thread shows anything, I’m a better judge of character than you, so.

In your own mind.

[user104658]

The excuses being made for this one too, would be utterly hilarious if they weren't a symptom of a rapidly approaching dystopian nightmare.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The excuses being made for this one too, would be utterly hilarious if they weren't a symptom of a rapidly approaching dystopian nightmare.

100% agree. The sheer amount of excuses coming out is worrying me a lot. I mean, theres the usual tribalism thats expected but..this is really something else.

Along with people simultaneously defending this WHILE still saying milkshake throwing should earn life in prison. Really? Cognitive dissonance at its finest..

[Livia]

She was heading for the head of the Bank of England, and for the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Just because she was a white woman, are we to assume she wouldn't do something crazy and murderous? Are we all really sure about that?

The only people here who should be explaining themselves is the security team. Because obviously no one is going to want to the protestors to have to explain themselves, they can pretty much do as they please until it affects you personally... then it's a whole other story.

[Sticks]

Mark Field MP for Chief Whip, as he is not afraid to "Put a bit of stick about"
It's what they do in the Whip's Office...

[Twosugars]

To all who defend him all I have to say is this.

Listen and take on board what was said of his behaviour

The PM said: very concerning
The party chairman said: hard to defend

These people are well briefed, security conscious and on the same side politically.
Enough said.

[Kazanne]

Cherie , Please don't get into bother because of me, but thankyou I know you are just looking out for me and a good friend, and Joey I may be a lot of things but I am loyal and I get the hint.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Cherie , Please don't get into bother because of me, but thankyou I know you are just looking out for me and a good friend, and Joey I may be a lot of things but I am loyal and I get the hint.

Kazanne, I've said it often enough.
You and I as I do with others disagree intensely on politics.
Most of the time, out of respect for you, I even avoid even engaging with you on it.

I see little point in wasting energy yours or others or mine, when being so poles apart means political tensions.

You and I agree elsewhere on near all other matters.
That has been so from me joining.

However, it is nothing to do with the other one who poked her nose in.

Now I can not respond to your posts if YOU wish,not her.
I know you are loyal, you were the 2nd person on here who I befriended.

By the way, no one gets in bother because of me.
I would not report anyone now.
Or take any disputes anywhere either.
No point in that.
However if I'm talking to you or vice versa it's for you to confront me or me you vice versa.
Not possible hostile meddling others.


You and I could have a strong political disagreement then totally be at one on all else.
Sadly it's how the political state is.
We had as I recall many disputes even in the 2015 election.
To avoid having unnecessary unwelcome interference from others however, I will endeavour to avoid political points between us and not respond.

[Twosugars]

Not Cherie lecturing others about sarky comments
Kazanne is also happy to make fun of posts she disagrees with.
Joey your posts are always interesting and well reasoned, dont let anybody silence you

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Not Cherie lecturing others about sarky comments
Kazanne is also happy to make fun of posts she disagrees with.
Joey your posts are always interesting and well reasoned, dont let anybody silence you

hey whatsyourface, not sure Joey will appreciate your interfering in his business

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

hey whatsyourface, not sure Joey will appreciate your interfering in his business

He sure doesn't appreciate yours. So take your own advice

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He sure doesn't appreciate yours. So take your own advice

I don't need to I don't mind people getting involved with what I post on the forum if they see the need.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't need to I don't mind people getting involved with what I post on the forum if they see the need.

So you won't mind me saying you should butt out of political disagreements between friends