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Old 02-12-2008, 01:19 PM #1
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Think i'd prefer a mother and father...
Yeh but only cos thats what your used to now, you probably wouldnt care if thats what you'd known all your life if they were lovin/good parents. Better than being with an abusive family or in care for a start
This is true, and to be honest, no one on here can really comment on having gay parents unless they have them.

Because without having gay parents we dont know what they are like so for everyone to make judgement is a bit off...
I know two people bought up by Lesbians and theyve never had any great problems
Then they are the sort of people that know whats its like and can judge weather right or wrong.

though i know every one will still have opinion on this.
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No mate...I mean what exactly what I wrote ... it IS genetic. That's pretty much what we've been aruging about the whole timw .... you just pick on that did you? hehe
There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else.

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" Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice."
Sorry that's not even remoely true ... show me your source... I've never heard that one...... unless by "some psychologists " you mean the psychologists at your local church.
For starters I don't have a local church and I don't go.

If psychologists didn't believe it then there wouldn't be a huge nature v nurture debate around it. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you can dismiss it as being false
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In 1991 LeVay published a controversial paper in the journal Science that described an anatomical difference between the brains of homosexual and heterosexual men.

In his seminar, LeVay described his own work and that of other researchers who give nature their vote in the nature versus nurture debate. LeVay referred to studies of separately-raised twins that suggest that sexual orientation has a genetic component.
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"There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else. "

Wrong, plenty of new research to suggest there are differences in biological make up of /gay people. Social factors may play a part but that doesnt mean if you are bought up in a gay family you will turn out gay, thats rubbish
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"There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else. "

Wrong, plenty of new research to suggest there are differences in biological make up of /gay people
Genetic often refers to something passed down. I'm not doubting the biological make up at all.
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"There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else. "

Wrong, plenty of new research to suggest there are differences in biological make up of /gay people
Genetic often refers to something passed down. I'm not doubting the biological make up at all.
well theres not evidence of a gay gene as such but there are probably biological/genetic differences that make someone more likely to be gay
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But the clear focus of sexual-orientation research has shifted to biological causes, and there hasn't been much science produced to support the old theories tying homosexuality to upbringing.
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I know a gay couple who live together they adopted a teenage boy now he's gay.
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I know a gay couple who live together they adopted a teenage boy now he's gay.
Well thats the upbringing theory proven! lol. Well my 2 lesbians didnt bring up lesbians my 2 cancel out your one haha
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you seem to have missed my earlier post ...

ps on topic ... roughly 1 in 10 people are gay ... statistic show that whether they are raised in a gay or a straight household the percentage is still the same. So that suggests that a child is equally likey of being gay when parented by straight parents or gay parent ie has no effect... it's genetic.
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"Psychologists think you learn it and its in your upbringing."
is this a lie from you? did you just make this up?
Its not genetic don't you mean?

But anyway the thing about up bringing is a true theory. Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice.
No, "psychologists" believe that. Only Right wing nutters. All evidence supports that it's genetic. The majority of gays were brought up in heterosexual households, and they weren't molested, or any other theory that came out of the 1950s when they used to play that homosexuals were pedophiles.
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"My reasoning is that I come from quite a religious background and its just something I've always been told isn't right." Tom
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No mate...I mean what exactly what I wrote ... it IS genetic. That's pretty much what we've been aruging about the whole timw .... you just pick on that did you? hehe
There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else.
Nope, most evidence supports just the opposite.

"If you're born gay then its nothing to with genes."

Uh, being born a certain way, is genetics, my friend. Yeesh.
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"There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else. "

Wrong, plenty of new research to suggest there are differences in biological make up of /gay people
Genetic often refers to something passed down. I'm not doubting the biological make up at all.
Biological make up IS GENETICS.
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You can't turn someone gay.

If they did, he would be dating women.
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Theres no evidence of a gay gene as such but genetics are obviously involved in the biological make up of a person. I think it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective for there to be more gay people in a rapidly expanding population. for the human race to survive we need to have enough resources for everyone. Its nature man
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So adoption yes! IVF nooo
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So adoption yes! IVF nooo
What is IVF?
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messing with eggs and sperm outside the womb then putting it back...and I wasnt being serious, Id rather people had kids through IVF that really want them than the scum who pop em out like they just dont care, then they just dont care
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Yeah i think they should be allowed to adopt. But the thing is the child might get bullied cause her/his parents is gay.
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Yeah i think they should be allowed to adopt. But the thing is the child might get bullied cause her/his parents is gay.
Then that's a societal problem that should be dealt with.
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I cant see why gay couples should not be allowed to adopt. Someone said that kids of gay couples could be bullied at school, surely thats the same as kids of fat parents, kids of people who dont conform to the norm in terms of dress code etc. not sure that bullying is a good argument for not being allowed to adopt.

I think anyone that can provide a loving, nurturing home should be allowed to adopt.
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