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Why are they called Lateral Flow tests in the UK and Antigen tests here?
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To put it simply – there is no difference between a rapid antigen and a lateral flow test! Rapid testing uses the well-established lateral flow technology to detect proteins or antigens that are present when a person is infected with COVID-19
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Cause yous can't pronounce lateral without drooling.
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They're the same thing, the most recent boxes we got say Rapid Antigen on them.
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https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/15/covid-...ge-experts-say

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Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Ernst Kuipers used graphics for the first time during a coronavirus press conference. The new presentation style was received well overall yet experts said there is still room for improvement in delivering the message.

"You help understand information better with pictures. The only thing is that those pictures have to be synchronized with the argument and that was not the case," Professor of Health Communication Julia van Weert told NOS. Van Weert criticized a graphic showing a rapid increase in coronavirus infections in four countries. "The graphic begged the question: Why is everything closed here if it is going well in comparison?" Van Weert said.

Experts also commented on the number of slides used. "Kuipers spoke in a calmed and informed manner, but he wanted to say too much in a short time and used too many graphics," communication expert Lars Duursma said.

Van Weert said that Kuipers was easier to follow than his predecssor Hugo de Jonge. "It could be more comprehensible. But Kuipers is much less verbose than De Jonge," Van Weert said.

De Jonge posted a picture on Twitter of himself watching the press conference at home with his feet up, popcorn and an alcohol-free beer.



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Although more than 200,000 people are now testing positive for coronavirus weekly in the Netherlands, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Ernst Kuipers announced a series of changes to the country’s lockdown policy which took effect four weeks ago. While many rules remain in place, restrictions related to retail, close contact professions, higher education, sports, and arts & culture participants were loosened up a bit.

The new rules take effect on January 15. No relief was given to hospitality business and cultural sector organizations, which will have to remain closed. However, the rules will be reevaluated after ten days.

“The difficult thing is that you are constantly faced with new scientific insights, such as with the face mask,” Rutte said. “We must always make adjustments and it is our task to discuss this with you again."

Rules regarding face masks were also updated, with masking now recommended in many indoor locations and crowded outdoor locations. The government wants people to use disposable masks instead of reusable cloth masks.

Quarantine rules were also cut regarding people who have received a Covid-19 booster vaccine, or those who tested positive for the coronavirus within the past eight weeks. Those people no longer have to quarantine after a close contact tests positive for the infection, unless symptoms of the disease begin to show. They are advised to visit the GGD for a PCR test five days after being in contact with someone who was infected with the virus.

"We can no longer get rid of the coronavirus. In the meantime, we know that there will be variant upon variant, which makes the boosters relevant,” Kuipers said. “I am happy that 90 percent of the over-sixty population has already gotten a booster, but I would advise everyone to get one. Then after a week you will be so well protected that the quarantine rules can be relaxed for you."

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Retail, contact professions, hospitality and cultural organizations
Retailers may open their doors again, but must close every day by 5 p.m.
Close-contact professions, including hairdressers, beauty salons, massage practitioners, and sex workers may open their businesses, but close daily by 5 p.m.
Those inside a shop or other business must wear a face mask. Face masks should be disposable, and not reusable cloth masks or homemade masks.
Store capacity is limited based on store size. Appointments are not necessary to visit non-essential retailers.
Shop customers must keep 1.5 meters of distance from others.
All hospitality businesses are closed to the public. Ordering in advance for take-away is possible.
Cinemas, museums, theaters and concert halls must remain closed.
Essential shops, such as supermarkets and drugstores, are allowed to remain open until 8 p.m. A face mask obligation applies in these locations, and customers are limited to a maximum of one per 5 square meters of floor space.
Specific services like those of a notary or lawyer, mortgage advisor, and medical contact professions can continue to hold normal opening hours.
Weekly markets are allowed to remain open.
Face masks should be worn in busy outdoor areas.

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Most sports activities indoors and outdoors, including group sports and team sports, are allowed to start up again.
Fitness centers and gyms are allowed to reopen.
Audiences are not allowed to attend sports competitions or trainings at any level.
Coronavirus access passes are required for any adult entering an indoor sports facility, with some exceptions.
Coronavirus access passes are required for any adult participating in outdoor spoorts when they move indoors, such as when they need to use a changing room or a toilet.
Sports competitions are limited to matches within a club, except for athletes and competitions at the highest levels.
Sports club canteens may only open for takeaway.
Sports club changing rooms, toilets and showers are allowed to open.
Sports participants do not need to keep a distance of 1.5 meters during competitions and practices if it is not possible.
Face masks should be worn in busy outdoor areas.

Education
In-person teaching at secondary vocational institutions, applied sciences universities, and research universities is allowed to start with a maximum of 75 people per classroom.
Primary school students in Groups Six, Seven, and Eight, secondary school students, vocational students, and higher education students should take a self-test twice weekly.
In higher education, a maximum group size of 75 people at 1.5 meters apart applies
Face masks should be worn by primary school students in Groups Six, Seven, and Eight, secondary school students, vocational students, and higher education students when they are not in the classroom.
Children under 12 years of age can be sent home from school if they have a mild cold, runny nose, or stuffed nose.
Face masks should be disposable, and not reusable cloth masks or homemade masks.
Face masks should be worn in busy outdoor areas.

Arts & Culture
Cultural activities indoors and outdoors are allowed without an audience.
Coronavirus access passes are required for any adult entering an arts & culture facility, such as rehearsal facilities, practice halls, and workshops.
There is a ban on all events.

Work, Home & Travel
Everyone in the Netherlands must work from home as much as possible. Those who have to go to work should stay 1.5 meters away from others.
Do not receive more than four people aged 13 or older per day at home. Do not visit more than one household per day.
Outside there is a maximum group size of four people over the age of 13 from different households.
Face masks are required in stores, indoor public places, busy outdoor public places, education from group 6 through higher education, on public transportation, at train and bus stations, and at airports.
Face masks should be worn in busy outdoor areas.
Face masks should be disposable, and not reusable cloth masks or homemade masks.
People not vaccinated against Covid-19, those vaccinated but who have not received a booster shot, and those who have not tested positive for coronavirus in the past eight weeks, are strongly advised to enter quarantine if a housemate or close contact tests positive for the coronavirus infection. This quarantine may be released with a negative PCR test on the fifth day of isolation.
People vaccinated against Covid-19 with a booster shot, and those who have tested positive for coronavirus in the past eight weeks, do not need to enter quarantine if a housemate or close contact tests positive for the coronavirus infection. They should schedule a PCR test on the fifth day of contact with that person.
People should limit their contacts when they leave the house.
Keep 1.5 meters apart from others wherever you go.
Visit no more than one other household per day.
Coronavirus self-tests should be used before visiting others or receiving visitors.
Children under the age of 12 should be kept separate from those over 70 years of age.
People aged 70 and older are urged to limit their contacts as much as possible, including with children. They should continue to keep 1.5 meters away from any person they contact.
If you have Covid-19 symptoms, stay at home, do not receive guests, and get tested as soon as possible.
Self-isolate if you test positive for coronavirus.
Ensure a good flow of fresh air indoors.
Wash your hands often and well.
Stay at home as much as possible. If you do go out, limit contact with others and stay 1.5 metres apart.
Funerals may be held with a maximum of 100 guests.

Travel abroad
There is no ban on foreign travel.
Follow all rules in effect at the destination.
Travel warnings and advisories can change quickly, which can affect rules for those returning to the Netherlands.
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over 5.7 million people watched our covid press conference over here
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She has no symptoms at all so far but it’s early of course .

She got a phone call from her school .. one of her pupils had a runny nose today .. and tested positive tonight at home .. then all staff were advised to take a LF test .

So this variant clearly seems to spread as rapidly as we thought .

I just tested negative incidentally but I’ll test again in the morning before going to my school


Makes me wonder what chance I have now of avoiding it and I’m feeling dreadfully anxious

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There are currently 10 cases in my son's class including his teacher and TA....no-one is ill but all isolating. Expecting a positive results any time but so far so good
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There are currently 10 cases in my son's class including his teacher and TA....no-one is ill but all isolating. Expecting a positive results any time but so far so good

She’s fine thanks .. a few sneezes and a little tired but life currently makes you weary ..

I’m still fine and still negative ..


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Saturday 15/1/22

287 have Died
81,713 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital - Not Updated (Friday 14th :19,539)

Patients in ventilation beds - Not Updated (Friday 14th : 777)


151,899 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths

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What day did they change the rule on PCI testing ??


It maybe should be noted on each day’s data ??


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Netherlands todays numbers

31.963 new cases, 3.526 less than yesterday

1.220 total hospitalisations

322 total on ICU's/ventilators, 12 new patients on ICU's

127 total new patients on the nursing wards

6 new deaths
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France : Paris

Has a march of Anti Vaxxers, again.

Ref:TRTworldHD in Paris.
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did they admit to locking you down on hugely inaccurate data?
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can i just check

Is the LIb Dems still a political party in the UK or did they disband?

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Is the LIb Dems still a political party in the UK or did they disband?


Same applies to Labour ...




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There were too many cases in his class for him to avoid it.

He was a little "off" yesterday but got up at 6.30 complaining of a headache. The lateral was positive immediately.

He's fuming as he had a football tournament tomorrow at school that he will have to miss.

Just hoping these 3 jabs keep it away from me
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Thats a Shame.


Hope you are able to your distance

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Thank you so much for even remembering ..

Well she’s doing a bit of sneezing ( and snoozing ) and the odd cough but she feels fine if a little tired .

I’ve just tested negative again even though she’s been testing positive since Thursday - her lower bars have been getting darker each day .

I honestly expected to get it by now to be honest as we are just carrying on as normal at home .

It’s all rather perplexing given I’m old , male , carrying a bit of timber .. working in a huge high school with 1300 young people most not bothering to wear masks .

(Incidentally 3 out of 7 staff have so far tested positive after spending just a day with that young pupil in school- last Thursday )


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Thank you so much for even remembering ..

Well she’s doing a bit of sneezing ( and snoozing ) and the odd cough but she feels fine if a little tired .

I’ve just tested negative again even though she’s been testing positive since Thursday - her lower bars have been getting darker each day .

I honestly expected to get it by now to be honest as we are just carrying on as normal at home .

It’s all rather perplexing given I’m old , male , carrying a bit of timber .. working in a huge high school with 1300 young people most not bothering to wear masks .

(Incidentally 3 out of 7 staff have so far tested positive after spending just a day with that young pupil in school- last Thursday )


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Just stop testing yourself - if you get her mild symptoms you will know you have it you dont need a test to tell you this?
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