[chuff me dizzy]

100% Yes

[Rorkimaru]

The problem is the producers not removing Aaron would be inadvertently saying that sort of behaviour is ok. Regardless of Joel being pompus and political he is a teenage virgin. Just because he is more mature in other ways doesn't mean he's happy having a lad hop on him.

It was a dumb mistake but it was sexual harassment. The police are not involved because Joel doesn't want them involved. Aaron was evicted because the producers deemed that sort of behaviour inappropriate and wanted to take a hard line stance on it. Joel was very clearly uncomfortable throughout the whole thing. Just because his discomfort manifested partially in laughter and he tried to play it down because he valued Aaron as a friend doesn't change it being sexual harassment.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

The problem is the producers not removing Aaron would be inadvertently saying that sort of behaviour is ok. Regardless of Joel being pompus and political he is a teenage virgin. Just because he is more mature in other ways doesn't mean he's happy having a lad hop on him.

It was a dumb mistake but it was sexual harassment. The police are not involved because Joel doesn't want them involved. Aaron was evicted because the producers deemed that sort of behaviour inappropriate and wanted to take a hard line stance on it. Joel was very clearly uncomfortable throughout the whole thing. Just because his discomfort manifested partially in laughter and he tried to play it down because he valued Aaron as a friend doesn't change it being sexual harassment.

If the bits in bold are true then why didn't big brother intervene at the beginning. Why did they let Joel be sexually harassed and assaulted?

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

If the bits in bold are true then why didn't big brother intervene at the beginning. Why did they let Joel be sexually harassed and assaulted?

I don't know. I wasn't in the room with those making the decision. People here have had difficulty reading Joel's discomfort, perhaps they did too. I saw it clearly having been in a similar situation but others may not have had that "luxury".

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

The problem is the producers not removing Aaron would be inadvertently saying that sort of behaviour is ok. Regardless of Joel being pompus and political he is a teenage virgin. Just because he is more mature in other ways doesn't mean he's happy having a lad hop on him.

It was a dumb mistake but it was sexual harassment. The police are not involved because Joel doesn't want them involved. Aaron was evicted because the producers deemed that sort of behaviour inappropriate and wanted to take a hard line stance on it. Joel was very clearly uncomfortable throughout the whole thing. Just because his discomfort manifested partially in laughter and he tried to play it down because he valued Aaron as a friend doesn't change it being sexual harassment.

If he was so uncomfortable why did he have a bath with him that evening?
All he had to do was raise his voice and say "FKCK OFF AARON I MEAN IT" and then BB would have given him a warning and that would have been it. It was homophobic on BB's part - Joel did not once say "Im going to BB/diary room - nothing - he took it and EVERYONE was laughing as it was clearly a mess about.

There was no "sinister" undertone, no threat of rape.

Everyone was involved and laughing, it was a mistake if he upset Joel. Which after a warning he wouldn't have done again.

People have stop getting so hysterical over nothing otherwise we will all end up living in a police state where nothing is legal.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Yes he should have been removed, I found extremely uncomfortable watching it & I'm no prode, what really got me was the other HM's reactions, you can tell Moel was really uncomfortable about the whole & not one HM's, tol Aaron to stop it.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Yes he should have been removed, I found extremely uncomfortable watching it & I'm no prode, what really got me was the other HM's reactions, you can tell Moel was really uncomfortable about the whole & not one HM's, tol Aaron to stop it.

Nor did big brother. They could have stopped it 10 seconds in but didn't.

If Joel really looked as upset as people claim, all the way through it, then big brother must have seen that and deliberately ignored it.

[jennyjuniper]

No, but BB should have called Aaron into the diary room earlier, because when they DID call him in, it came home to him that maybe he had gone too far. He was okay when he went back into the bedroom, apologised to Joel and got into bed.

[DemolitionRed]

Certain types of public nudity under UK law is deemed as "indecent exposure". This Act currently includes genital exposure with intent to shock a person/people and also includes "simulated sex/buggery" which is something Aaron did with Joel.
Such acts can carry penalty of up to two years imprisonment or a very hefty fine.

Every time something like this goes on in the house, the producers need time to talk to in house lawyers. It was likely legal advice that got Aaron evicted and not Joel reporting his disdain in the diary room.

[wendywillow]

I think it was dealt with badly by Joel. He continued to laugh thus encouraging Aaron. BB could have dealt with it better & of course HMs encouraging Aron did not help either a sad loss to the BB house

aaron was drunk as well. I really wish Joel had shut it down while it was happening but I guess its hard when everyone is laughing along. BB had to evict aaron tho, esp after joel said he was that uncomfortable.

[Vicky.]

@AARON_FREW @bbuk yeah same!! we should all get #GetAaronIn trending and #GetJoelOut

@AARON_FREW @bbuk that's how it should be! Joel is the reason Aaron is out along with Harriet for egging him on

@AARON_FREW @bbuk Joel reacted to him by hitting Aaron with a shoe though!! Joel needs to be out too for violence����

Aarons latest retweets...so yeah. No remorse, finding someone else to blame, and being the bitter egotistical twat I always thought he was. Shame on me for feeling a bit sorry for him and thinking the a squeaky apology just might be genuine...

[Liam-]

He's an actual bellend, anyone who supports him or buys into the 'Joel's to blame' story is just as bad as he is imo, vile.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He's an actual bellend, anyone who supports him or buys into the 'Joel's to blame' story is just as bad as he is imo, vile.

I would rather be as bad as he is than go along with casual homophobia, to be honest.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He's an actual bellend, anyone who supports him or buys into the 'Joel's to blame' story is just as bad as he is imo, vile.

Hows the view from that high horse?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Hows the view from that high horse?

I think that's a donkey.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He's an actual bellend, anyone who supports him or buys into the 'Joel's to blame' story is just as bad as he is imo, vile.

He was worried that his friends on the outside would think of him as Gay. He bodloy said it!!!

"I would hate for people to think I encouraged it"

It was homophobia.

[Marsh.]

Ejection or no ejection, the producers killed the show tonight either way.