[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Well she keeps putting herself out there for all to see and judge.

Like we do as a forum, and like we have always, and will always do as a forum, we judge her.

I think you are beginning to overstep the mark with your personal hatred of people who do not put themselves in the limelight.

I base that on you agreeing that these are negative stories, but you are attacking someone even though you see the story the same way they do..

And the fact you keep saying argue instead of debate, its clear to me why you are here.

The negative stories would be fine if they were actually portraying fact. This article about the non existent reality series is a good example.
Over 9 thousand comments were posted on that article and the usual toxicity was posted on here before it was debunked.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The negative stories would be fine if they were actually portraying fact. This article about the non existent reality series is a good example.
Over 9 thousand comments were posted on that article and the usual toxicity was posted on here before it was debunked.

That one was debunked. There are so many that weren't and were proved to be true, for instance in the bio written by their friend Scobie. Even he couldn't sugarcoat certain stories which he was obliged to cover if the book was to have any merit at all, though he tried his best, bless.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

That one was debunked. There are so many that weren't and were proved to be true, for instance in the bio written by their friend Scobie. Even he couldn't sugarcoat certain stories which he was obliged to cover if the book was to have any merit at all, though he tried his best, bless.

And before this story was debunked it was jumped on by the usual haters instantly...

So ready to spew vile hatred towards them.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The negative stories would be fine if they were actually portraying fact. This article about the non existent reality series is a good example.
Over 9 thousand comments were posted on that article and the usual toxicity was posted on here before it was debunked.

I think they would have gotten more support if it was an actual reality series, as opposed to this self serving drivel that they have complete rights over.

The fact that they ran away from the royal family but are now popular with Netflix because harry is a royal, and they are cashing in on that fact!!

well that needs scrutinised, dont you think?

Why is it she should get a free ride on tibb when Gemma Collins gets slaughtered for the slightest thing.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think they would have gotten more support if it was an actual reality series, as opposed to this self serving drivel that they have complete rights over.

The fact that they ran away from the royal family but are now popular with Netflix because harry is a royal, and they are cashing in on that fact!!

well that needs scrutinised, dont you think?

Why is it she should get a free ride on tibb when Gemma Collins gets slaughtered for the slightest thing.

They’re free to do whatever they want, they aren’t working Royals...

[Beso]

Still grabbing at the last scabby skirt tails of being one though to earn loads of cashm

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Still grabbing at the last scabby skirt tails of being one though to earn loads of cashm

Yes I’m sure that’s what they’re doing

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Yes I’m sure that’s what they’re doing

I'm glad you agree....



Again.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

And before this story was debunked it was jumped on by the usual haters instantly...

So ready to spew vile hatred towards them.

You ignored the part about the book - this is what you do....

Anyway, I didn't see any vile hatred spewed on here. You seem to torture yourself by reading tabloid comments and then come on here to unfairly vent your anger.
If they are spouting vile comments, take it up with them. Even better, couldn't you stay away from comment sections altogether? I thought only fanatics read those things.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I’m not looking for racism, Swan...people don’t look for racism, it finds its own targets to level its prejudice at...I also tend to look whichever way and whichever angle, etc in forming my own personal thoughts...and never in my entire life have I had American described as ‘exotic’...other than with Meghan ...and he mother described as ... ‘a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks’ which is most definitely a racist comment to have been made...

...with Archie..?...it’s also not about ‘hounding’ it’s again about a very racist inference that was ‘joked’ about him on social media...not a really encouraging beginning to his little life...and possibly an ‘ending’ for Harry and Meghan...

I wasn't saying you Ammi, more the royal (sic) 'you'. As for the 'African American lady' comment, yeah i don't get why a persons skin colour/nationality needs to be mention in anything other than when looking for a crime suspect (white/black/brown asian male etc)

The tweet was stupid, if you believe him, then it was clumsy. But really? A tweet had something to do with them up and leaving the Country, i very much doubt it.

A lot of criticism comes from them wanting away from the limelight, then go and move to the limelight capital of the world. The fact they don't want to Royals, yet want to keep their Royal titles. Their telling people to do bit for the environment, whilst flying all over the world in private jets. Their opportunistic charity work. I could go on. I don't hate them, they're just another typical over privileged, deluded Hollywood 'it' couple now. Plenty of them, nothing new. Not liking them isn't irrational, and yeah i've never read the word 'irrational' so many times, in such a short amount of time, Cherie's right

Im going close my argument here, as you, quite rightly stated this morning, all this debating is pointless now, it's been done to death. Some people like them some people don't.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

You ignored the part about the book - this is what you do....

Anyway, I didn't see any vile hatred spewed on here. You seem to torture yourself by reading tabloid comments and then come on here to unfairly vent your anger.
If they are spouting vile comments, take it up with them. Even better, couldn't you stay away from comment sections altogether? I thought only fanatics read those things.

I haven’t read the book and I can take a guess that neither have you.
I do know that that some tabloid stories that were printed about them were debunked in the book though.

It’s not unfairly venting anything. When I see the same ignorant deluded comments being made by members on here I’ll call it out. They’re strikingly similar to the absolute nonsense in the comment section which I read to give myself a laugh at how moronically gullible people are.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Still grabbing at the last scabby skirt tails of being one though to earn loads of cashm

Indeed. As if Netflix would be interested in that pair of knobs if Harry wasn't the son and brother of future Kings. Meghan on her own wouldn't have got past the receptionist.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Indeed. As if Netflix would be interested in that pair of knobs if Harry wasn't the son and brother of future Kings. Meghan on her own wouldn't have got past the receptionist.

Why wouldn’t she?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I haven’t read the book and I can take a guess that neither have you.
I do know that that some tabloid stories that were printed about them were debunked in the book though.

It’s not unfairly venting anything. When I see the same ignorant deluded comments being made by members on here I’ll call it out. They’re strikingly similar to the absolute nonsense in the comment section which I read to give myself a laugh at how moronically gullible people are.

You don't sound like you get a laugh. At all.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

You don't sound like you get a laugh. At all.

I notice how you skirted past the tabloid stories (that greatly contributed to the hatred spewed at her) was debunked.
And yea I had great laugh at the morons. It’s crazy how deluded some people are and I’m safe in the knowledge that I’m at least better then them

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

I wasn't saying you Ammi, more the royal (sic) 'you'. As for the 'African American lady' comment, yeah i don't get why a persons skin colour/nationality needs to be mention in anything other than when looking for a crime suspect (white/black/brown asian male etc)

The tweet was stupid, if you believe him, then it was clumsy. But really? A tweet had something to do with them up and leaving the Country, i very much doubt it.

A lot of criticism comes from them wanting away from the limelight, then go and move to the limelight capital of the world. The fact they don't want to Royals, yet want to keep their Royal titles. Their telling people to do bit for the environment, whilst flying all over the world in private jets. Their opportunistic charity work. I could go on. I don't hate them, they're just another typical over privileged, deluded Hollywood 'it' couple now. Plenty of them, nothing new. Not liking them isn't irrational, and yeah i've never read the word 'irrational' so many times, in such a short amount of time, Cherie's right

Im going close my argument here, as you, quite rightly stated this morning, all this debating is pointless now, it's been done to death. Some people like them some people don't.

....... we don’t know really what ‘the final straw’ was, Swan...what completely moulded their decision as it were... because these things generally have many, many layers before such a life changing decision is made...I think the ‘lime light’ thing is a manipulation of words as well../ a slanting....because as far as I recall, it was more to feel as though they had more control of their own lives and not have to live such a public life of duty, which being a senior Royal involves and those duties in themselves opened up that criticism so much for the media to lay..what did Meghan wear, what did she say, did she give a strange look and etc etc......the private jets..?...yeah, that’s how those Royals roll......because they’re obviously a high security risk, so that’s the safest option ...and so many people are ‘hypocrites’ because they care to preserve the environment that we live in and yet they travel overseas and quite frequently for some with holidays and work related things etc ...(...well not so much atm, I know...)...we are all hypocrites, every single one of us with no exceptions...I agree with you completely, Swan..(...yayyyyyy......)...this is the most I think that Ive given thought with a ‘Meghan’ thread for a while because I don’t find them very productive or healthy in how they revolve and revolve in circles with nothing new being added for debate...(...if debate is applicable, that is..)...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

And yea I had great laugh at the morons. It’s crazy how deluded some people are and I’m safe in the knowledge that I’m at least better then them

You say that safe on the knowledge that none of them post on tibb, so cant see that unproven statement.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You say that safe on the knowledge that none of them post on tibb, so cant see that unproven statement.

When did I say they didn’t post on TiBB?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

When did I say they didn’t post on TiBB?

Are you calling forum members morons?

[Glenn.]

No parm of course I’m not

[Beso]

what are you saying...I've explained myself.

[Glenn.]

Hardly

[Beso]

I knew I should left when you sounded angry..gnight glen.

[Glenn.]

It’s probably best if you can’t keep to the discussion

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

First of all, if you read my posts back, you'll see i said a small minority will be against her because of her race. Racist people come in all forms, bigots will be against any one different from them. By default some will be against her because of her skin colour. Just like some people are against gay people, trans people, even christians, muslims and so on. People based on race will always be discriminated against, even white people are (not on the same scale, granted). The fact that you, a white person, seem to know more about how racism works than me, a white person doesn't make any sense. What qualifies you more than me, considering we're both white males?

No Dezzy, a white supremacist is in the same boat as a black supremacist, a religious person who believes woman are a lesser species, and person who believes gay people should be killed. All scum. Being angry about that is fine/understandable. I think it's more your 'every trump supporter is racist and white supremacist' argument which i don't think is true, but that's a different subject all together.

No, in YOUR opinion they're wrong, just because you don't agree, doesn't make others opinions 'wrong' Dezzy. That's a terrible trait to have.

I know the Megan 'lovers' term is ridiculous, as is Megan haters. No point going over that, again.

And also, thanks for the advice i'll bare that in mind

What qualifies me not to know more about racism but to have empathy with all who suffer bigotry is experience, I'm not straight, after all. It's not the same as racism but people who suffer bigotry should have empathy for all others who have suffered other brands of bigotry and hate. That, and the fact that I don't shy away from reality in anything I do. I'm not going to minimize racism and pretend it doesn't exist, I'm not going to think that racism is dead because I don't personally suffer from it. Just because I don't suffer from racism doesn't mean others do not and I will never pretend that it isn't a massive issue worldwide because it is. After all, I prefer reality to a comfortable lie.

....Did you really just try to 'both sides' White Supremacists? And what's this about 'Black Supremacists'.... Is that meant to refer to BLM? Do you see BLM as black supremacists and thus they are the opposite side of the same hate coin as White Supremacy? Is that what you're getting at here cus that's a whole lotta wrong in one paragraph. As for Trump, what reasons does anyone have left to support him? Everyone knows he's a fraud, he's killed 200k Americans with his response to covid, the economy was in a bad position before Covid.... Just what is there left to support Trump for besides the fact that he makes racists feel vindicated in their hatred? There's nothing, the only people left in his base are the racists and the extremists, if that upsets, argue against it.

That whole opinion line is just plain silly, this is the second post where you've tried to attribute false traits to me. I've always said that if you disagree with what I say, to argue against it and I'll do the same. Do you not know how discussion or debate works? There's no point in lying to me about me, I know myself, you are proving rapidly that you do not if you think I'm someone intolerant of opposing opinions when all I do is encourage debate. If you wanna play me at my own game, get better at getting a handle on people, on reading them because all your angry assertions in your last few posts towards me have just been plain wrong.

Nah, the 'Megan lovers' thing is just a **** response to people taking issue with the wanton hatred aimed at someone who, to anyone of a rational mindset, has not really done anything to deserve it. It's literally just a 'Well I'm I'm this then you're THAT!' type of response.