[Nicky91]

Trump must rot in prison for rest of his life

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

This has been a civil uprising that happens all around the world, the people taking part are an uneducated unruly mob but to call these people terrorist’s is stretching the truth.

The level of bad blood in America goes nearly all the way back to its birth

Trump will be dead and gone but the divide will live on.

The definition of terrorism is "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Where's the stretch?

[Nicky91]

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

Fair point - where were the authorities when the riots were going on throughout the summer? Did they sit on their hands because it was only normal citizens who were the victims, and not politicians?

[Nicky91]

Germany is doing a special broadcast about this, i can translate this tweet

Special programming: Presented after the violent riots yesterday
@kloeppelpeter
Today at 8:15 p.m. live from Washington the #rtlaktuell special 'Storm to the Capitol - America in Shock'. Asked for interview is foreign minister
@HeikoMaas
. #Washington

.

[bots]

there are 13 days to go yet folks

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Fair point - where were the authorities when the riots were going on throughout the summer? Did they sit on their hands because it was only normal citizens who were the victims, and not politicians?

The police during BLM protests



The police during yesterdays insurrection



You think BLM would have just been allowed to walk into the building like that with guns?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The police during BLM protests



The police during yesterdays insurrection



You think BLM would have just been allowed to walk into the building like that with guns?

You think the MAGA mob woukd have been allowed to burn their towns to the ground? Why didn't the police actually do anything to stop the riots?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You think the MAGA mob woukd have been allowed to burn their towns to the ground? Why didn't the police actually do anything to stop the riots?

Because they were told to stand down by Democrat Mayor's.

They even took over a part of Seattle and declared it a Country, with borders.

[Kazanne]

To get things into perspective ,Trumps words were NOT exactly as portrayed,he said "people will walk to Washington" or words to that effect,just another example of twisting his words to suit some of the media,this was debated this morning on the JV show, he never actually told the people to go and riot,that is what I gathered from the debate anyway. he really should just bow out gracefully and go off into the sunset. The people involved should be ashamed of themselves,and conceed that he lost.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

To get things into perspective ,Trumps words were NOT exactly as portrayed,he said "people will walk to Washington" or words to that effect,just another example of twisting his words to suit some of the media,this was debated this morning on the JV show, he never actually told the people to go and riot,that is what I gathered from the debate anyway. he really should just bow out gracefully and go off into the sunset. The people involved should be ashamed of themselves,and conceed that he lost.

He did, without being explicit. It's called plausible deniability.

"Plausible deniability is the ability of people, typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command, to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others in an organizational hierarchy because of a lack or absence of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions."

Trump relies on this concept a lot.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You think the MAGA mob woukd have been allowed to burn their towns to the ground? Why didn't the police actually do anything to stop the riots?

You mean like all the tear gas and dragging folks off in unmarked vehicles by unidentified police officers? There were example of mothers with linked arms being shot with rubber bullets as they sang. This was all in the face of another police brutality incident that kicked the protests off.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

dragging folks off in unmarked vehicles by unidentified police officers?

When? The source cited for this seems to be a video of one dude being led away before the vid ends, without showing what happened before or after. There's no proof it was a regular occurence.

[Oliver_W]

Even wkth a few random examples of the police doing things they shouldn't during the riots, they obviously didn't handle them properly, they should never have been allowed to escalate as fwr as they did.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Even wkth a few random examples of the police doing things they shouldn't during the riots, they obviously didn't handle them properly, they should never have been allowed to escalate as fwr as they did.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-george-floyd

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...unmarked-cars/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53453077

BLM was the result of decades of abuse, not decades of right-wing white grievance politics.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

He did, without being explicit. It's called plausible deniability.

"Plausible deniability is the ability of people, typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command, to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others in an organizational hierarchy because of a lack or absence of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions."

Trump relies on this concept a lot.

You'll never take back your country with weakness - Trump yesterday

Lets have a trial by combat - Giuliani yesterday

Unless he said "everyone storm the capitol" then people will cognitive dissonance themselves into oblivion rather than admit they could have been wrong about trump all along.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

BLM was the result of decades of abuse, not decades of right-wing white grievance politics.

Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.

Who are you referring to? Who needs to protest peacefully?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Who are you referring to? Who needs to protest peacefully?

The rioters from over the summer and the MAGA thugs.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.

It didn't happen in a vacuum. People have been putting up with this for decades and centuries. After every police murder they were lectured, they were dismissed with blue lives matter and all lives matter. The fact you're both siding this is weird tbh.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It didn't happen in a vacuum. People have been putting up with this for decades and centuries. After every police murder they were lectured, they were dismissed with blue lives matter and all lives matter. The fact you're both siding this is weird tbh.

It's an easy thing to both-side, people who think it's okay to loot and burn aren't the "good guys", even if there are problems with law enforcement. But if they're gonna use violence, it shouldn't be aimed at innocent people who have nothing to do with their problems.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by the slim reaper

you'll never take back your country with weakness - trump yesterday

lets have a trial by combat - giuliani yesterday

unless he said "everyone storm the capitol" then people will cognitive dissonance themselves into oblivion rather than admit they could have been wrong about trump all along.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

and yet they let the cities burn? the police really does need reforming over there!

[SherzyK]