[arista]

The RAF
has dropped some bombs on targets for the first time
in this Gulf War 3

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

The RAF
has dropped some bombs on targets for the first time
in this Gulf War 3

Yeah, Gulf War 3. Except we only have a few fighter jets involved. And absolutely no ground troops. So actually... nothing like Gulf War 3. The only people who are calling this operation by that name are newspapers bent on sensationalising a sensitive operation..... and you, arista.

[Novo]

Its all kicking off now, Gulf War 3 has truly begun

[arista]

They destroyed Armed trucks

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This has absolutely nothing to do with God - no matter who or what you perceive him to be. This is exclusively about evil men.

From the dawn of mankind, humans have killed and maimed each other. It is in man to do so instinctively. Man is the only beast on Earth who slaughters for fun and sport, and derives pleasure from barbaric cruelty.

Nothing changes with - so called -'evolution', only the manner of killing. Flint axes became wooden clubs, became swords, became guns, became nuclear warheads.

We all have good and evil within us and a quality called 'free will', and the majority of Christians or Muslims or Jews would not willingly commit the barbaric atrocities which these evil fundamentalist terrorists so readily delight in perpetrating under the pretence of a 'Holy War. Whilst these bastards are waging their phoney war in the name of Allah, hundreds of thousands of ordinary, civilised Muslims are knelt in mosques all over the world praying for an end to the atrocities.

It was much the same with the vast majority of ordinary Roman Catholics during the decades of atrocities and cowardly indiscriminate bombings committed by the IRA - supposedly - in the name of God.

God has nothing to do with it, and it is not a Holy War. It is a war waged by purely evil madmen who instinctively have the urge to murder, and the desire to inflict pain and suffering. These are monsters who have been provided an excuse by the West which they believe justifies their 'war' and vindicates their acts of abhorrent inhumanity to fellow man.

Evil men gravitate to other evil men and to evil causes. Do not blame God. It is man - the human beast - not God.

The billions in God's 'armies' are harmless, decent, civilised human beings who can be found knelt worshipping in Churches, Chapels, Mosques and Synagogues, not killing, maiming and beheading innocent people.

When this thin veneer of 'civilisation' has eroded, or when man is beyond the the fragile framework of laws which confine him, the majority of us remain 'human'. There are things we still would not do, even were there no longer any laws to prevent us doing them.

Yet, there are men who have done the most inhuman and bestial of acts to other humans just because they could; The ordinary Roman soldier in Judea, once 'ordinary' German men who became Nazis, once 'ordinary' Romanians who served under Ceausescu, the list is endless, and these men seized their opportunity to do what they did, because they were intrinsically and instinctively evil. Despite Lord Acton's adage that “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely etc", a man has to be evil to commit the acts of evil we are addressing here.

Like the secret paedophiles who secure employment in childrens' homes, or the lesbians who become officers in womens' prisons, evil men huddle under the banner which will best afford them the opportunity to satisfy their bestial desires.

They do not need 'educating that their is no God'. This war is not about God, and what is more; they do not believe in God - if they did, then no amount of 'conditioning' could turn them into the depraved hate-filled butchers they are.

Further; what is your view on the thousands of senseless wars which were not fought in 'God's name'?

And it is not just in wars where the 'evil that men do' is occurring with sickening regularity.

Imagine you are looking through a special 35mm film camera; you start 'Medium Close' in one of those little boxes we call houses; watch as the drunken husband drags his screaming wife around by her hair, punches her in the head, kicks her in the stomach. 'Cut' to that little bungalow - there in the bedroom, where that 'burglar' is beating the 85 year old retired midwife black and blue having already robbed her of the few possessions which she had. This beating is just for fun - a kind of perk of the job, 'Pull Back' to the street outside a Nightclub; there; where the two yobs are kicking the 17 year old students head in. 'Cut' to that dark alleyway as the two hooded thugs are beating the innocent 58 year old Church organist to death with baseball bats. Get the idea? All evil, senseless and sickening, and not one of God's banners in sight.

I am neither deluded, brain-washed nor crazy, but I believe in God. I believe in God because of something which I experienced - something which changed me and my life. Despite my 'epiphany', I do not, however, believe in the Church. The Church - like Government and Local Government, the Judiciary, and every other institution in this world - is run by man. Man - with all his frailties and flaws, his corruption and prejudices, and hypocrisy.

I think that you mistake Man's doing for God's.

Incidentally, I believe that it takes a greater 'Leap of Faith' not to believe in God than to believe in him.

Thank You.......Kirklancaster

I have been trying to say this for ages on these forums, but you have penned a good post that gets the point across.





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[arista]

Sad news the Isil Evil

have killed the British Hostage

http://news.sky.com/story/1347130/vi...ning-beheading

[AnnieK]

Devastated about this news. Alan is from near me.....makes it so real. This was an aid worker who was there to help the people if Syria. ...

RIP Alan. Thoughts with his family.

[joeysteele]

Sickening absolutely sickening, I really detest these creatures who are doing this,miserable,evil,barbaric cowards.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Devastated about this news. Alan is from near me.....makes it so real. This was an aid worker who was there to help the people if Syria. ...

RIP Alan. Thoughts with his family.

this is what pisses me off more than ANYTHING

He went over there risking his LIFE to help others and now he's been killed in the most horrific way imaginable.

these people need ****ing slaughtered. i dont care if people think it makes me a monster, but they literally need wiping from existence. even if it takes 50 years, we must finish them off. there is no other way.

it actually makes me cry hearing this happening every time. its so ****ing sad. his poor family, their pain must be unimaginable right now.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This has absolutely nothing to do with God - no matter who or what you perceive him to be. This is exclusively about evil men.

From the dawn of mankind, humans have killed and maimed each other. It is in man to do so instinctively. Man is the only beast on Earth who slaughters for fun and sport, and derives pleasure from barbaric cruelty.

Nothing changes with - so called -'evolution', only the manner of killing. Flint axes became wooden clubs, became swords, became guns, became nuclear warheads.

We all have good and evil within us and a quality called 'free will', and the majority of Christians or Muslims or Jews would not willingly commit the barbaric atrocities which these evil fundamentalist terrorists so readily delight in perpetrating under the pretence of a 'Holy War. Whilst these bastards are waging their phoney war in the name of Allah, hundreds of thousands of ordinary, civilised Muslims are knelt in mosques all over the world praying for an end to the atrocities.

It was much the same with the vast majority of ordinary Roman Catholics during the decades of atrocities and cowardly indiscriminate bombings committed by the IRA - supposedly - in the name of God.

God has nothing to do with it, and it is not a Holy War. It is a war waged by purely evil madmen who instinctively have the urge to murder, and the desire to inflict pain and suffering. These are monsters who have been provided an excuse by the West which they believe justifies their 'war' and vindicates their acts of abhorrent inhumanity to fellow man.

Evil men gravitate to other evil men and to evil causes. Do not blame God. It is man - the human beast - not God.

The billions in God's 'armies' are harmless, decent, civilised human beings who can be found knelt worshipping in Churches, Chapels, Mosques and Synagogues, not killing, maiming and beheading innocent people.

When this thin veneer of 'civilisation' has eroded, or when man is beyond the the fragile framework of laws which confine him, the majority of us remain 'human'. There are things we still would not do, even were there no longer any laws to prevent us doing them.

Yet, there are men who have done the most inhuman and bestial of acts to other humans just because they could; The ordinary Roman soldier in Judea, once 'ordinary' German men who became Nazis, once 'ordinary' Romanians who served under Ceausescu, the list is endless, and these men seized their opportunity to do what they did, because they were intrinsically and instinctively evil. Despite Lord Acton's adage that “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely etc", a man has to be evil to commit the acts of evil we are addressing here.

Like the secret paedophiles who secure employment in childrens' homes, or the lesbians who become officers in womens' prisons, evil men huddle under the banner which will best afford them the opportunity to satisfy their bestial desires.

They do not need 'educating that their is no God'. This war is not about God, and what is more; they do not believe in God - if they did, then no amount of 'conditioning' could turn them into the depraved hate-filled butchers they are.

Further; what is your view on the thousands of senseless wars which were not fought in 'God's name'?

And it is not just in wars where the 'evil that men do' is occurring with sickening regularity.

Imagine you are looking through a special 35mm film camera; you start 'Medium Close' in one of those little boxes we call houses; watch as the drunken husband drags his screaming wife around by her hair, punches her in the head, kicks her in the stomach. 'Cut' to that little bungalow - there in the bedroom, where that 'burglar' is beating the 85 year old retired midwife black and blue having already robbed her of the few possessions which she had. This beating is just for fun - a kind of perk of the job, 'Pull Back' to the street outside a Nightclub; there; where the two yobs are kicking the 17 year old students head in. 'Cut' to that dark alleyway as the two hooded thugs are beating the innocent 58 year old Church organist to death with baseball bats. Get the idea? All evil, senseless and sickening, and not one of God's banners in sight.

I am neither deluded, brain-washed nor crazy, but I believe in God. I believe in God because of something which I experienced - something which changed me and my life. Despite my 'epiphany', I do not, however, believe in the Church. The Church - like Government and Local Government, the Judiciary, and every other institution in this world - is run by man. Man - with all his frailties and flaws, his corruption and prejudices, and hypocrisy.

I think that you mistake Man's doing for God's.

Incidentally, I believe that it takes a greater 'Leap of Faith' not to believe in God than to believe in him.

What a fantastic post,when will people realise it is MAN who is evil,he was given free will and just look what he does with it,it IS nothing to do with God,just man killing man and blaming it on something else,humans are the most dangerous beings on the planet.

[Brother Leon]

Even the most radical of Islamic leaders telling them that killing him would be haram didnt stop them. So sad.


Another creation by Western funds that has spiralled out of control.

[arista]

IS Threatens To Kill American Hostage Next

http://news.sky.com/story/1347162/is...n-hostage-next

[Cal.]

They need to kill every last one of the ISIS people.

[Sticks]

Well the blood Henning is on the hands of all those MP's who voted to bomb Isis

By voting for military action they effectively voted to have him beheaded

He was executed because parliament voted to bomb Isis, plain and simple. You need to ask your MP if they voted to bomb, and if so demand they resign for contributing to the execution of Henning as his blood is on their hands.

We should not be bombing them as bombing is encouraging faithful Muslims to go off and join them and fight alongside their Muslim brothers against the Americans and the British in this war on Islam, remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims.

We must recognise ISIS as a legitimate state and talk to them, just like we talked to the IRA and other terrorist organisations.

According to one expert on BBC Radio 4's today programme, this is what we will ultimately have to do.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Well the blood Henning is on the hands of all those MP's who voted to bomb Isis

By voting for military action they effectively voted to have him beheaded

He was executed because parliament voted to bomb Isis, plain and simple. You need to ask your MP if they voted to bomb, and if so demand they resign for contributing to the execution of Henning as his blood is on their hands.

We should not be bombing them as bombing is encouraging faithful Muslims to go off and join them and fight alongside their Muslim brothers against the Americans and the British in this war on Islam, remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims.

We must recognise ISIS as a legitimate state and talk to them, just like we talked to the IRA and other terrorist organisations.

According to one expert on BBC Radio 4's today programme, this is what we will ultimately have to do.

This. We are playing right into their hands./ Without any threat of an attack on this country they have us at war costing the tax payers millions.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Well the blood Henning is on the hands of all those MP's who voted to bomb Isis

By voting for military action they effectively voted to have him beheaded

He was executed because parliament voted to bomb Isis, plain and simple. You need to ask your MP if they voted to bomb, and if so demand they resign for contributing to the execution of Henning as his blood is on their hands.

We should not be bombing them as bombing is encouraging faithful Muslims to go off and join them and fight alongside their Muslim brothers against the Americans and the British in this war on Islam, remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims.

We must recognise ISIS as a legitimate state and talk to them, just like we talked to the IRA and other terrorist organisations.

According to one expert on BBC Radio 4's today programme, this is what we will ultimately have to do.

Please tell me Sticks that you're not serious?:

"Well the blood Henning is on the hands of all those MP's who voted to bomb Isis

By voting for military action they effectively voted to have him beheaded

He was executed because parliament voted to bomb Isis, plain and simple."

War is war. The vile beheading of a bound, decent, innocent, non-combatant by evil cowards has nothing to do with war and should never be proffered as a legitimate consequence of war.

This poor man's innocent blood is on the hands of the cowards who abducted him in numbers and at gunpoint, and especially on the hands of the cowardly bastard who beheaded him.

"We should not be bombing them as bombing is encouraging faithful Muslims to go off and join them and fight alongside their Muslim brothers against the Americans and the British in this war on Islam, remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims."

'Faithfull Muslims', 'Muslim Brothers', 'War on Islam' and 'Inspired' - You are using subliminally emotive words in this post, whether by design or coincidence I can't say, but your entire post couldn't be better for pro-'islamic' terrorists causes if it had been issued by 'ISIS' Propagandists themselves --

-- And it is so totally misleading;

No 'faithfull Muslims' are going to be encouraged to 'go off and fight alongside their Muslim Brothers' because they would already be enlisted if that was the case, and the demons waging this 'war' are not 'Muslim brothers', they are evil terrorists pure and simple. They are actually slaying their 'Muslim brothers' and have as much in common with genuine Muslims, as the cowardly bastard who beheaded Alan Henning:

"(Reuters) - Muslim groups across Britain united on Saturday to join Prime Minister David Cameron in condemning the beheading of aid worker Alan Henning by Islamic State insurgents.
Prayers for the 47-year-old taxi driver were said in mosques throughout Britain at the start of the Muslim Eid al-Adha festival,
His case had prompted a wave of appeals for his release from British Muslim leaders.
Shuja Shafi, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, called his murder "a despicable and offensive act".
"COWARDLY ACT"
Imam Asim Hussain of the Manchester Central Mosque said it was a "cowardly and criminal act of appalling brutality, by a group who do not represent Islam at all".

I draw your attention to; "by a group who do not represent Islam at all".

No, the only 'Muslims' who may be encouraged to join these evil bastards are those bloodthirsty, hate-filled evil scum who are already twisted, warped, evil bastards and who masquerade as Muslims.

As for; "remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims" --

-- this is yet more wholly misleading propaganda. She well may have been galvanised by watching footage of the war, but 'inspired' implies that she was imbued by divine influence, and she most certainly wasn't.

You might as well say that 'Tommy The Serial killer was inspired to kill 13 people after seeing news footage of Peter Sutcliffe'.

The desire to 'become a jihadist wife' was already in her. Just as the bestial blood lust is in the bastard terrorists whom you refer to as 'Muslim brothers' 'fighting a war'.

"We must recognise ISIS as a legitimate state and talk to them, just like we talked to the IRA and other terrorist organisations."

Yes -- you're absolutely right. Perhaps we should invite them all to Buckingham Palace for cucumber sandwiches and tea. Talking to them is one premise which will not work. You cannot appease these demented butchers and there really is nothing to talk about. Even if there was, because they are; "a group who do not represent Islam at all", they are not the one's we should be talking to.

In my opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Well the blood Henning is on the hands of all those MP's who voted to bomb Isis

By voting for military action they effectively voted to have him beheaded

He was executed because parliament voted to bomb Isis, plain and simple. You need to ask your MP if they voted to bomb, and if so demand they resign for contributing to the execution of Henning as his blood is on their hands.

We should not be bombing them as bombing is encouraging faithful Muslims to go off and join them and fight alongside their Muslim brothers against the Americans and the British in this war on Islam, remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims.

We must recognise ISIS as a legitimate state and talk to them, just like we talked to the IRA and other terrorist organisations.

According to one expert on BBC Radio 4's today programme, this is what we will ultimately have to do.

Not in any way shape or form are they similar.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not in any way shape or form are they similar.

[Ninastar]

lol @ Alan being beheaded because of us... nah, they would have killed him no matter what.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

lol @ Alan being beheaded because of us... nah, they would have killed him no matter what.

Watching his videos
he knew he was in danger



today the Times
reports that Turkey has traded British to ISIS

It appears Turkey are our Fecking Enemy

[Brother Leon]

They've raided someone's house who had just come back from Syria and was fighting for them. Right opposite my GFs house. Crazy.

[arista]

Meanwhile Turkey lets Isis
attack the Kurds

As Turkey is at war with the Kurds

Shame the USA President does not know that

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Please tell me Sticks that you're not serious?:

"Well the blood Henning is on the hands of all those MP's who voted to bomb Isis

By voting for military action they effectively voted to have him beheaded

He was executed because parliament voted to bomb Isis, plain and simple."

War is war. The vile beheading of a bound, decent, innocent, non-combatant by evil cowards has nothing to do with war and should never be proffered as a legitimate consequence of war.

This poor man's innocent blood is on the hands of the cowards who abducted him in numbers and at gunpoint, and especially on the hands of the cowardly bastard who beheaded him.

"We should not be bombing them as bombing is encouraging faithful Muslims to go off and join them and fight alongside their Muslim brothers against the Americans and the British in this war on Islam, remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims."

'Faithfull Muslims', 'Muslim Brothers', 'War on Islam' and 'Inspired' - You are using subliminally emotive words in this post, whether by design or coincidence I can't say, but your entire post couldn't be better for pro-'islamic' terrorists causes if it had been issued by 'ISIS' Propagandists themselves --

-- And it is so totally misleading;

No 'faithfull Muslims' are going to be encouraged to 'go off and fight alongside their Muslim Brothers' because they would already be enlisted if that was the case, and the demons waging this 'war' are not 'Muslim brothers', they are evil terrorists pure and simple. They are actually slaying their 'Muslim brothers' and have as much in common with genuine Muslims, as the cowardly bastard who beheaded Alan Henning:

"(Reuters) - Muslim groups across Britain united on Saturday to join Prime Minister David Cameron in condemning the beheading of aid worker Alan Henning by Islamic State insurgents.
Prayers for the 47-year-old taxi driver were said in mosques throughout Britain at the start of the Muslim Eid al-Adha festival,
His case had prompted a wave of appeals for his release from British Muslim leaders.
Shuja Shafi, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, called his murder "a despicable and offensive act".
"COWARDLY ACT"
Imam Asim Hussain of the Manchester Central Mosque said it was a "cowardly and criminal act of appalling brutality, by a group who do not represent Islam at all".

I draw your attention to; "by a group who do not represent Islam at all".

No, the only 'Muslims' who may be encouraged to join these evil bastards are those bloodthirsty, hate-filled evil scum who are already twisted, warped, evil bastards and who masquerade as Muslims.

As for; "remember that 14 year old girl who has run away to become a Jihadist wife? She has been inspired by this bombing of Muslims" --

-- this is yet more wholly misleading propaganda. She well may have been galvanised by watching footage of the war, but 'inspired' implies that she was imbued by divine influence, and she most certainly wasn't.

You might as well say that 'Tommy The Serial killer was inspired to kill 13 people after seeing news footage of Peter Sutcliffe'.

The desire to 'become a jihadist wife' was already in her. Just as the bestial blood lust is in the bastard terrorists whom you refer to as 'Muslim brothers' 'fighting a war'.

"We must recognise ISIS as a legitimate state and talk to them, just like we talked to the IRA and other terrorist organisations."

Yes -- you're absolutely right. Perhaps we should invite them all to Buckingham Palace for cucumber sandwiches and tea. Talking to them is one premise which will not work. You cannot appease these demented butchers and there really is nothing to talk about. Even if there was, because they are; "a group who do not represent Islam at all", they are not the one's we should be talking to.

In my opinion.

could'nt have said it better.Excellent post

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You cannot appease these demented butchers and there really is nothing to talk about. Even if there was, because they are; "a group who do not represent Islam at all", they are not the one's we should be talking to.

In my opinion.

Which is what we used to say about the IRA and the ANC.

This action by the west is not working and is giving ammunition to those who are radicalising Muslims, just like the 7/7 bombers were radicalised and inspired.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Which is what we used to say about the IRA and the ANC.

This action by the west is not working and is giving ammunition to those who are radicalising Muslims, just like the 7/7 bombers were radicalised and inspired.

Correct Sticks



But we are where we are now.

Its going to get worst
they want to cut someones head off here in the UK
that must be stopped