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Thanks for mentioning the MOBO's Kaz because if we are to be correct within this industry of film and music then all other races should now be selected for a MOBO.
It's just something that really is not that important in the grand scheme of things, it's a statue at the end of the day,they are all spoilt enough imo,lol,Lots of people never get recognition for what they do, people should deal with it, black or white ,we are people ,not colours.
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Hi Ammi, Spike lee would have a point if he had said ALL other races and not just one race but he didn't say that did he. Do all the other races not matter? Where is their representation? It's the movie business and to me the key word here is....business.
..he did actually say minorities, Johnny ...


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I might be being a bit thick here,but why does colour even matter with everything,why does everything have to be monitored to make sure everything is equal, I have NEVER gone to a movie with the colour of the actors in mind,just want to see a good movie, I don't care if they are sky blue with spots on as long as my money is spent well,it's like when someone wins something so you have to have one,God forbid someone misses out,and while I'm at it,are the MOBO awards ever boycotted?
It becomes a problem when so many non-white actors aren't getting work?
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Thanks for mentioning the MOBO's Kaz because if we are to be correct within this industry of film and music then all other races should now be selected for a MOBO.
Do you even know what the MOBO awards are?

All races ARE included.

Adele won an award ffs

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Do you even know what the MOBO awards are?

All races ARE included.

Adele won an award ffs
Yes but K Pop are still not represented equally yet.
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Do you even know what the MOBO awards are?

All races ARE included.

Adele won an award ffs
They are marsh,and don't you be swearing at Kazanne,lol,
BUT it is predominately for ethnic music,The MOBO Awards for "Music of Black Origin" were established in 1996 by Kanya King and Andy Ruffell. The MOBO Award show is held annually in the United Kingdom to recognise artists of any ethnicity or nationality performing black music. In 2009, the awards ceremony was held in Glasgow for the first time. Prior to that, it had been held in London. In 2011, the ceremony returned to Scotland for a second time. The awards then moved to Leeds for 2015.

The Music Of Black Origin (MOBO) Awards were established in 1996 to recognise and celebrate artists who create Black or urban music. The MOBOs may be the most prestigious but were not the first Black music awards show in the country. In Britain, the Black Music Awards (BMA) show ran from 1992 to 1996 in various venues in London.[1][2] For non-music shows, the Afro Hair and Beauty show was set up by Dyke and Dryden beauty company in 1982,[3] and is still an annual event in London.

The first MOBO award was presented to UK trio Baby D, in the Best Dance Act category.[4] The MOBO Awards are seen as a UK equivalent to the BET Awards and Soul Train Awards for being the main award show in Britain to focus on Urban music.
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They are marsh,and don't you be swearing at Kazanne,lol,
BUT it is predominately for ethnic music,The MOBO Awards for "Music of Black Origin" were established in 1996 by Kanya King and Andy Ruffell. The MOBO Award show is held annually in the United Kingdom to recognise artists of any ethnicity or nationality performing black music. In 2009, the awards ceremony was held in Glasgow for the first time. Prior to that, it had been held in London. In 2011, the ceremony returned to Scotland for a second time. The awards then moved to Leeds for 2015.

The Music Of Black Origin (MOBO) Awards were established in 1996 to recognise and celebrate artists who create Black or urban music. The MOBOs may be the most prestigious but were not the first Black music awards show in the country. In Britain, the Black Music Awards (BMA) show ran from 1992 to 1996 in various venues in London.[1][2] For non-music shows, the Afro Hair and Beauty show was set up by Dyke and Dryden beauty company in 1982,[3] and is still an annual event in London.

The first MOBO award was presented to UK trio Baby D, in the Best Dance Act category.[4] The MOBO Awards are seen as a UK equivalent to the BET Awards and Soul Train Awards for being the main award show in Britain to focus on Urban music.
That's a genre of music though. Like the Brit Awards are for pop music.

Shows they don't discriminate against white artists who perform in that genre either.

What is Hollywood's excuse?

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Yes but K Pop are still not represented equally yet.
Yes, just think of all the K-Pop artists in Britain....
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Would you not say that Hollywood is the most diverse film industry in the world?
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Would you not say that Hollywood is the most diverse film industry in the world?
No. I'd say it's monopolised the film industry and no one else gets a look in because the same people are in control of the pots of gold.
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BUT it is predominately for ethnic music,The MOBO Awards for "Music of Black Origin" were established in 1996 by Kanya King and Andy Ruffell. The MOBO Award show is held annually in the United Kingdom to recognise artists of any ethnicity or nationality performing black music. In 2009, the awards ceremony was held in Glasgow for the first time. Prior to that, it had been held in London. In 2011, the ceremony returned to Scotland for a second time. The awards then moved to Leeds for 2015.

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The first MOBO award was presented to UK trio Baby D, in the Best Dance Act category.[4] The MOBO Awards are seen as a UK equivalent to the BET Awards and Soul Train Awards for being the main award show in Britain to focus on Urban music.
Mobos are no different from the Country Music awards or Latin Grammys
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Maybe there are just more white actors ( I hate having to write a colour even) don't you think regardless of colour it's a bit of a petty boycott,actors are paid silly amounts of money for the privilege of playing a role.they should get awards if they need them on merit not colour
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Maybe there are just more white actors ( I hate having to write a colour even) don't you think regardless of colour it's a bit of a petty boycott,actors are paid silly amounts of money for the privilege of playing a role.they should get awards if they need them on merit not colour
The Oscars is the biggest event in the Hollywood calendar so it seems an opportune time to make points about issues within the Hollywood system tbh.

I don't think it's about black people not getting awards, it's using the awards to show how little work Hollywood gives non-white actors etc.

Is it just a fact that all of the people who deserve to be awarded for their work just happen to be white? Or is it a case of only white people getting the work to begin with?

It's a tricky business.
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Surely you need to insert the word 'quality' into this sentence to make it into a worthy point. The answer would be 'yes' to your question but as to whether there are more quality actors in any ethnic group, I think the answer is definitely 'no'.
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theres only 1 Chinese , despite the fact they make up 25% of the planet
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Depends if you're talking about what they earn from movies.

Net worth total would incorporate any work they do in any other industry too.

Oprah Winfrey would qualify to appear in a list but she hasn't done much acting in comparison to other things.

It's also littered with Bollywood stars.

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disabled actors have far far far far far more to complain about. other than chris reeves, ive never even seen a wheelchair on the Oscars stage
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Your right. Not even the great Stephen Hawking was allowed on the stage to celebrate when Eddie Redmayne won an oscar for playing him in The Theory Of Everything.

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This entire subject is an overdone B-O-R-E-F-E-S-T -----in my opinion.Zzzzzzz.
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..I think that because it is seen as that..(hasn't Idris himself just said that UK actors have to go to the USA/Hollywood for the diversity and that shouldn't be the case...)...that it has to be a leader in giving neutral parts more to black actors...and also, adapting parts if necessary and if that's something that's feasible for the character..I mean it has come some way over the years but just not enough though...even one of my favourite movies, Breakfast at Tiffany's had the 'all American' Mickey Rooney playing Mr Yunioshi in the most dreadfully stereotypical racist way...was there no Asian actors at all that could have been considered, not one single person to seek acting as something they wanted to do..an 'up and coming'...(because 'starlets' were very much the thing I think at that time..)...or was there just none that had been accepted and signed up to a studio...hmmmmm..so yeah, it has progressed but considering that Hollywood is a world leader in movies, then just not even nearly enough...I mean, with changing already established white characters, if that's not changed for us to see black actors in those parts and equally convincing in them with their acting abilities...if that's shied away from in thinking...oh will this be accepted because this character has always been white previously, then nothing will ever change and progress, will it...we have to make those changes first and then see if they're accepted, not anticipate it all in a negative way...


...I was thinking though last night/the further irony of it all...Mel Gibson, the all American 'perfect and can do no wrong, we love you actor'....great for the studio's image, eh...?...when he was openly racist, then he was shunned/his career in ruins..(and rightly so/idiot..)... because pfffft, Hollywood and Hollywood Executives don't approve of and don't condone racism, we'll have none of that here thank you very much...(but obviously we still won't address more roles for black actors in the decision making because that isn't racist....and when there's a perfectly adequate white actor for the role anyway....why look any further than that..?...)...
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The Oscars is the biggest event in the Hollywood calendar so it seems an opportune time to make points about issues within the Hollywood system tbh.

I don't think it's about black people not getting awards, it's using the awards to show how little work Hollywood gives non-white actors etc.

Is it just a fact that all of the people who deserve to be awarded for their work just happen to be white? Or is it a case of only white people getting the work to begin with?

It's a tricky business.
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So he is going Political
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of the White Actors thinking of joining him.

The term Black list - is not about their Color.


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