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We'll have to wait and see, of course... but I don't believe for one minute it's going to be as bad as your painting it, quite the reverse. |
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![]() But, there will be a lot of gesturing initially. The EU want to strike while its all fresh in the mind, hoping to put the UK at a disadvantage by common agreement. We should and will take it slowly, negotiating deals with countries that provide the best mutual benefit first. Once they are defined and agreed, the smaller countries will have to fall into line |
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The reasons why I say this are: The EU’s share of global GDP fell from 30% in 1993 to 24% in 2013 and is STILL plummeting. The UK has suffered a negative Trade Balance with The EU for decades, and it is increasing - in April of 2016, our trade deficit with the EU was Ł16 BILLION pounds - FOR THE MONTH. We BOUGHT Ł16 BILLION POUNDS OF GOODS MORE FROM THE EU, THAN WE SOLD TO THEM - IN ONE MONTH. With an ever increasingly plummeting share of Global GDP the crumbing EU is DESPERATE for trade, so the very notion that they will 'put barriers' in our way and deprive themselves of Ł20 BILLION POUNDS per month trade surplus is banal. And for those who have been seduced by the propaganda and lies that the UK was economically stronger in the EU, bear in mind that we have been in the EU for over 40 years, then read this tiny snippet from Ed Conway, Economics Editor of Sky News: "The worst goods trade deficit in more than three centuries" "Last year Britain recorded its biggest deficit in goods trade since records began.* Those records technically go all the way back to 1697, though getting hold of the data is rather tricky. The ONS only has numbers going back to 1998, on a comparable basis, while HM Revenue & Customs supposedly has the 300-year series of data, but, when I spoke to them earlier today, weren’t exactly sure where one can lay one’s hands on it." THE WORST TRADE FIGURES FOR 300 YEARS! And note the difficulty in actually obtaining information from HMRC. So much for any argument that we are 'economically better off in', and for any belief that the crumbling corrupt EU will salve their wounded pride by making it more difficult to trade with us - as I have said on here for a year - WE DO NOT NEED THE EU, THEY NEED US. As you will witness.
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That is pure baloney. Just not true, but I have no time at present to answer fully, so I will do so later.
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Remembering Kerry
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I still say we will have to accept the free movement of EU citizens and I believe whoever does the negotiations will in the end accept that. If the UK citizens demand goods from European Countries, then we will still have to import them, no matter the costs of doing so,and the EU knows that. I say you are right. |
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The voice of reason
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I still think (my opinion) that a lot of younger voters were voting to stay in Europe geographically and now think that they are not in Europe
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![]() We haven't changed geographically. Ooooooh it will beggar the football up a fair bit as well
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You would be staggered - utterly staggered - by the number of punters (in general, men aged 40 - 60) who have commented today and yesterday about how it's "England's Last Euro's". "Those arseholes won't be there next time anyway ha ha!" "Och, would be nice for them to win, since it's their last..." Seriously.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Somebody said this at work yesterday, so what are we now we are no longer in Europe? Honestly I give up at times
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Great point Cherie.
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The voice of reason
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Yes I think you are right |
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Very happy - especially seeing the spiteful way the other Euro leaders are now treating the UK.
Petty behaviour. Pathetic. Showing their true colors now. |
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Lisa Scott-Lee Expert
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A group of people who are going to cap your knees because you disagree with them or want to part ways is a group you don't want to be a part of - like the mafia or the plastics.
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I think we were once called an 'irrelevant' country by the other Euro leaders.
If that's the case why is our exit causing them all to go into paroxysms of fear. They are like headless chickens. The UK will always be great. We are the best country in the world. Look at our music, our arts. Our scientists, specialists...adored the world over. The Americans actually come here to film their movies. The back of the queue my ****. TALENT. Last edited by Gusto Brunt; 25-06-2016 at 05:25 PM. |
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Our music, artists, novelists, talent... again all world class, because we have been allowed the individual freedoms and space for creativity to make that possible. That is now being systematically chipped away by austerity. (And just FYI, Hollywood comes here, and to Canada, Australia, etc. to film movies because the big US locations like California and the iconic cities charge huge taxes to film there... they come because it's cheaper and has comparable architecture.) Britain has been strong but it would be a HUGE mistake to become complacent. Especially now. |
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Shhiiiieet 2 yrs l8ta
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-Britain.html
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Fighting the PC Culture
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The voice of reason
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I note the vile CBI have now changed their tune and are rather optimistic of the pre brexit UK
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oh fack off
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Anyone who voted to leave the EU believing there'd be a dramatic decrease in immigration is an idiot quite frankly, since most migration to the UK comes from outside of the EU
Last edited by Jack_; 25-06-2016 at 05:55 PM. |
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