[setanta]

I love the arguments you get into dennis.... I actually admire you in some ways because I could never see myself defending Noirin in anyway. It's like when you had to do debates in school and you drew the short end of the stick by having to prove that Fascism was a step forward for Mankind or something like that. I honestly don't know how you do it... fair play to you.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by setanta
I love the arguments you get into dennis.... I actually admire you in some ways because I could never see myself defending Noirin in anyway. It's like when you had to do debates in school and you drew the short end of the stick by having to prove that Fascism was a step forward for Mankind or something like that. I honestly don't know how you do it... fair play to you.

But as you can see,i end up fighting everyone.

[tintedshadow]

judgemental people i will never understand... in a world full of rapists,murderers and peadofiles we have some looking down on noirin for a nipple party trick?and her "teasing" behavior.. i do not wish to call anyone a slut but in light of the fact sophie allegedly gave kris a handjob or more,and with half of what angel got up too.. i fail to see the reason to have such a view on noirin,aside from the admirers i just think some women need to open their minds up..

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by preciousgal
i do understand that people do put themselves out there to be scrutinised...believe me i lived in America where people do worse things just to get on TV and the more outrageous they get, the better rating.
However what i dont agree with is the fact that every Tom, Dick and Harry feel they can say anything about people, no matter how damaging it can be, that they do not know anything about after watching a few edited episodes.

THIS....

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by preciousgal
i do understand that people do put themselves out there to be scrutinised...believe me i lived in America where people do worse things just to get on TV and the more outrageous they get, the better rating.
However what i dont agree with is the fact that every Tom, Dick and Harry feel they can say anything about people, no matter how damaging it can be, that they do not know anything about after watching a few edited episodes.

All my threads are based on the livefeed. I will not watch the h/l's due to how they edit everyone so badly.

[setanta]

Ah yeah, you love a good auld fight- you'll have a cut against the best of them. I don't agree with you about Noirin in any way but I can't help but admire you and your steely determination. Oh she's awful dennis.... really awful. I'm telling you- I know these types of girls.... I know how they operate. She has you all fooled

[preciousgal]

Dennis i hope you dont think that i am criticsng you...i am actually agreeing with you about how people think they have the right to say mean things about Noirin but know nothing about her save a few edited scenes on TV

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

THIS....

My OP is based on fact where as Mrs was just an attempt to stir things up on here without any facts.

I think Sophie falling out of her bikini and posing for Playboy were far worse than what Noirin 'hasn't' done.

[tintedshadow]

i see no reason to judge anyone but i take your point dennis,some just see noirin as the devil incarnate and i cant see me having much more patience to reason with them..

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by preciousgal
Dennis i hope you dont think that i am criticsng you...i am actually agreeing with you about how people think they have the right to say mean things about Noirin but know nothing about her save a few edited scenes on TV

No way,neither Satanta. When people give good reasoning then it is healthy which is what this thread is about.


I just felt Mrs was not giving any reasons based on fact and was justing slating Noirin for the sake of it.

At least i gave facts about her that a lot of people obviously unstood but i think Mrs was just a 'Noirin hater' or just winding me up.

Their problem in my opinion.

[preciousgal]

shame as some people will just hate for no reason and will just say things without backing it up... i am a grown ass woman who is able to make my own informed opinions, i like Noirin irrespective of what people say or what she does....afterall she is only human...if people think i am a sucker and a fool thats ok i can deal with that. On that note i will say good nite y'all. Keep the positive threads up Dennis!!!

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by preciousgal
shame as some people will just hate for no reason and will just say things without backing it up... i am a grown ass woman who is able to make my own informed opinions, i like Noirin irrespective of what people say or what she does....afterall she is only human...if people think i am a sucker and a fool thats ok i can deal with that. On that note i will say good nite y'all. Keep the positive threads up Dennis!!!

Sleep well Lovely and thanks

[setanta]

Originally posted by dennissabre

No way,neither Satanta. When people give good reasoning then it is healthy which is what this thread is about.


I just felt Mrs was not giving any reasons based on fact and was justing slating Noirin for the sake of it.

At least i gave facts about her that a lot of people obviously unstood but i think Mrs was just a 'Noirin hater' or just winding me up.

Their problem in my opinion.

Oh, I'll be honest and say my feelings for the girl border on hatred, but I would never go so low as to just hurl vitriolic abuse at the girl without backing it up with facts. You can't be rash about these things- it doesn't help and you end up looking like a reactionary pig.

All I can say is that the girl is dangerous and she's incredibly duplictious. It's actually amazing to watch her in action..... how she sizes up every new development in the house and acts acordingly without any thought or concern towards anyone but herself. She's just amazing at hiding her ambitions and scheming. It's extraordinary how powerful her hold is over the house and over many viewers.

[BONNEIP]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Never has a female housemate been so unjustly treated the way Noirin has when it comes to her involvement with the males in the house.

Well said. I like Norin & don't get all this get her out campaign. She's a flirt, lock us all up then if that's become a crime. Leave her in & lets see what develops.

If you believed everything in this forum then she has ******ed everyone including the "Crew". What has she actually done apart from flirting? You can believe 'Marcus's bullshit' but the livefeed proved that for what it was...pure fantasy on his part!

No snogging or nipple party piece,or even sunbathing in a bikini and yet that has stopped some of the filthiest comments i have seen written about a woman who in actual fact has 'flirted' a bit like a lot of women do,thank god.

Yes i'm a fan of heres so people will say i'm bias and even i agree she can be a bitch,but i'm just stating the facts that in actual fact she has done nothing to suggest she is the slag/***** people are painting her to be.

Noirin said in her VT that she likes to flirt a bit and that "men find me attractive and women are jealous of me!" It's proved to be the case in the house. which if anything proves she's honest about herself. Using Marcus,Sree and now will s**g Tom. Give the girl a break. It's not her fault if these men fall for her is it?

:t humbs:

[jet]

Originally posted by setanta

Oh, I'll be honest and say my feelings for the girl border on hatred, but I would never go so low as to just hurl vitriolic abuse at the girl without backing it up with facts. You can't be rash about these things- it doesn't help and you end up looking like a reactionary pig.

All I can say is that the girl is dangerous and she's incredibly duplictious. It's actually amazing to watch her in action..... how she sizes up every new development in the house and acts acordingly without any thought or concern towards anyone but herself. She's just amazing at hiding her ambitions and scheming. It's extraordinary how powerful her hold is over the house and over many viewers.

But not over us....and many others. I think many people are going to be kicking themselves over being taken in by her by the time this is all over...and that includes Sree, the horrible Marcus, and Siavash in particular.

I’m gutted that Siavash has lowered himself to her level. She needs to GO.

If she does, maybe Siavash can recover from this.

[setanta]

Originally posted by jet

But not over us....and many others. I think many people are going to be kicking themselves over being taken in by her by the time this is all over...and that includes Sree, the horrible Marcus, and Siavash in particular.

I’m gutted that Siavash has lowered himself to her level. She needs to GO.

If she does, maybe Siavash can recover from this.

Why do they like her so much in here? I don't see any redeemable qualities in her at all. With all the rest of the contestants bar Lisa I can see why someone would warm to them but this girl..... wow. It amazes me.

[dennissabre]

I like her because obviously i fancy her but 2 i think she has been totally and harshly misjudged regarding her 'relationships' with the men in the house as i keep having to repeat in my OP.

She stated upon entering the house that men fall for her and women are jealous of her.

Big deal! Who has she ******ed or anything in the house? No one,yet here she is being treated as some kind of *****.

She told the truth about men all along and i admire her honesty.

[Kaaren!]

I dont think shes a slut
All these guys are fallen for her cz they thinks shes pretty and all that not cz shes a nice person or cz shes got a nice personality ... I havent heard one of em say that anyway
All Marcus does is perve on her and follow her around 24/7
And thats not her fault cz she has told him looooads of times shes not interested in him in that way but somehow he STILL thinks hes got a chance
HOW?! WHY?! Hes hardly a likely catch is he?! And hes realli pervy and disgustin soo its not jus his looks
Shes so afraid of even talkin to Tom and any of the guys cz Marcus is always there so if she were a slut or watever she wouldnt care and would jus jump on them

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Kaaren!
I dont think shes a slut
All these guys are fallen for her cz they thinks shes pretty and all that not cz shes a nice person or cz shes got a nice personality ... I havent heard one of em say that anyway
All Marcus does is perve on her and follow her around 24/7
And thats not her fault cz she has told him looooads of times shes not interested in him in that way but somehow he STILL thinks hes got a chance
HOW?! WHY?! Hes hardly a likely catch is he?! And hes realli pervy and disgustin soo its not jus his looks
Shes so afraid of even talkin to Tom and any of the guys cz Marcus is always there so if she were a slut or watever she wouldnt care and would jus jump on them

Very well put Kaaren and welcome to the forum.


You will see a lot of nasty offensive comments written about Noirin being a 'slut,*****,etc but all of them unfunded as i have said in my OP.

dennissabre

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by BONNEIP

:t humbs:

Thank you very much

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
i see no reason to judge anyone but i take your point dennis,some just see noirin as the devil incarnate and i cant see me having much more patience to reason with them..

Me neither so i won't

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by mrsme
you know what? I hope all you noirin lovers grow up and have daughters, then they go on national TV and screw their boyfriend, then continue on to show the world just what a lovely kind julie andrews type figure she is.

I should feelpity for you and your repressed views on Nnoirin but youare beyond pity after reading your factless comments.

[dennissabre]

Thought there would be loads of threads trashing her and calling her offensive names sbout Siavash today.


Oh wait....there have been. What a massive surprise and all wrond and without facts as usual on here.

[alc09]

Edited.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by alc09
Dennis I understand what your saying but shut up about her for once please mate, getting so boring now with you on about her in every thread.

People get what your saying but cant you change the ****ing record eh?

I do not not care for your abusive opinions in my threads so grow up move along and press ignore and stop reading my threads