[InTheHood]

...The Pete, Michael, Jodie 'conversation' right now?

I'm feeling really sorry for Jodie, Michael inparticular needs to calm down.

They are trying to help her, make her realise she needs to bite her lip at times and learn how to be nice etc etc.

Very interesting

[InTheHood]

Actually........I'm on E4 +1

[CharlotteSometimes]

I saw it. I don't think he needed to calm down at all. Flogging a dead horse is bound to be exasperating.

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
I saw it. I don't think he needed to calm down at all. Flogging a dead horse is bound to be exasperating.

I could see what he was doing, but some of his points were........pointless!

I think it's fair to say Michael was on his high horse.

I understand what he was doing, he was just doing it very badly.

Jodie is volatile, you don't become volatile with someone who is volatile.

I mean, so what if she looked at a camera? What was the point in bringing that up? Some of his points weren't even part of the conversation, it was like he was picking up anything to throw at her.

I do think Michael doesn't like her, and it was 2 against 1.

Jodie needs help, but not from those two

[CharlotteSometimes]

Barrymore has been through everything she claims to be enduring at the moment (and a hell of a lot more besides), and come out the other side. She's not 'volatile' at all - she's selfish and ignorant. I wouldn't blame anyone for reacting the same way as he did. A man with a broken leg will think he's suffering, until he meets a man that's stepped on a landmine and now has a prosthetic limb where his leg used to be. Most people would realise as much, yet she completely refuses to even entertain the concept.

As for Pete's involvement, he actually dug her out of a hole. She'll seldom find such erudite conversation in the circles she moves in, so more fool her for being so pig-headed. The fact is that Jodie Marsh wants to be a victim. She has no interest in the advice others may give her, because the reality terrifies her.

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Barrymore has been through everything she claims to be enduring at the moment (and a hell of a lot more besides), and come out the other side. She's not 'volatile' at all - she's selfish and ignorant. I wouldn't blame anyone for reacting the same way as he did. A man with a broken leg will think he's suffering, until he meets a man that's stepped on a landmine and now has a prosthetic limb where his leg used to be. Most people would realise as much, yet she completely refuses to even entertain the concept.

As for Pete's involvement, he actually dug her out of a hole. She'll seldom find such erudite conversation in the circles she moves in, so more fool her for being so pig-headed. The fact is that Jodie Marsh wants to be a victim. She has no interest in the advice others may give her, because the reality terrifies her.

Be honest though. George and Pete picked on her earlier as well. Pete called her stupid and an imbocile. Preston stood up for Jodie.

Pete is a bully, he picks on people he considers weaker.

Pete's big gripe is that Jodie picks on people...so why does Pete do it himself? Because he is a hypocrite, and is a bitter about his own mistakes.

Pete admits he doesn't like her, but needs someone to back him up, Jodie says what she wants, even when outnumbered.

Jodie has balls, Pete has no balls, he hides behind his face.

Barrymore brought alot of what he's been through on himself. Yes the press were unfair and appalling, but Barrymore's actions and running away did not help him.

After she had gone to bed, the slagging off started, which makes them no better than her.

At the moment, for whatever reason, she is the bigger celebrity. Barrymore was finished 5 years ago, maybe this will help him make a comeback (it's clearly why he is in there!) and Pete Burns was finished nigh on 20 years ago.

Some people are trying to hard.

Jodie is no angel, I don't particuarly like her, but she has potential to turn herself around.

[CharlotteSometimes]

You say they picked on her, whilst I think it's more a case of them being thoroughly fed-up with her. The fact that so many hm's nominated her shows how irritating they find her. They've hardly decided to focus on her without reason - they're simply reacting to her vacuous behaviour.

No, Pete's a realist. He's simply pulling back the curtains and revealing the puppeteer.

That's quite a distortion of the facts, don't you think? What he focussed on was her obsession with Jordan and Peter Andre.

Is honesty a bad thing? Of any person in the house, Pete's the least likely to seek back-up. If you did a little research along those grounds, you'd realise that it's simply not the case at all. And Jodie has a script - it's the same spiel over and over every time.

Again, check his back catalogue. Pete has more balls than most men I've ever known.

Pete's career may have been over in the UK long ago, but he's still performing. Dead Or Alive are still massive in Japan, and he could live comfortably on that alone. If you look in a magazine such as Record Collector, you'll see that Dead Or Alive still have a massive following worldwide. There are some items that change hands for hundreds of pounds. He still performs in America, Europe and Japan, and not in the tiny venues you'd imagine as far as the latter is concerned. And he's still recording and releasing albums, too. There was a 'Best Of' album and DVD out in the UK last year, and it wouldn't have happened at all if there wasn't a market for it.

[InTheHood]

quote]Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
You say they picked on her, whilst I think it's more a case of them being thoroughly fed-up with her. The fact that so many hm's nominated her shows how irritating they find her. They've hardly decided to focus on her without reason - they're simply reacting to her vacuous behaviour.

No, Pete's a realist. He's simply pulling back the curtains and revealing the puppeteer.

That's quite a distortion of the facts, don't you think? What he focussed on was her obsession with Jordan and Peter Andre.

Is honesty a bad thing? Of any person in the house, Pete's the least likely to seek back-up. If you did a little research along those grounds, you'd realise that it's simply not the case at all. And Jodie has a script - it's the same spiel over and over every time.

Again, check his back catalogue. Pete has more balls than most men I've ever known.

Pete's career may have been over in the UK long ago, but he's still performing. Dead Or Alive are still massive in Japan, and he could live comfortably on that alone. If you look in a magazine such as Record Collector, you'll see that Dead Or Alive still have a massive following worldwide. There are some items that change hands for hundreds of pounds. He still performs in America, Europe and Japan, and not in the tiny venues you'd imagine as far as the latter is concerned. And he's still recording and releasing albums, too. There was a 'Best Of' album and DVD out in the UK last year, and it wouldn't have happened at all if there wasn't a market for it. [/quote]

Darn, your rattled.

Fact is you are a Pete fan, you'll not hear anything said against him, yet you like to diss Jodie. Your style, fair enough, I accept anyones opinions, I don't have to agree though

Honesty is not a bad thing. The fact is, if Jodie said to Pete, your face looks horrific, he'd go mental, because Jodie said a page 3 girl wasn't attractive, he thought it was offensive.....how?

Double standards, Pete can be 'honest', but Jodie is just gobby and trouble making.

And if Pete doesn't seek help, then why last night was he looking to Michael for help every few minutes?

Looking around, Pete has lost alot of respect since tonights show.

Anyway, stick to your opinions, but I bet I have bigger balls than Pete

Oh and big in Japan? Maybe next Big Brother we can get a big comedian in Belarus onto BB, only I thought this was 'famous in the UK'

[CharlotteSometimes]

Rattled? This is a forum, where people exchange differing views. On occasion, some tend to post drivel, based on some form of petty bias and/or prejudice. Others read it, and respond to highlight such.

Yes I am, but other than that you'd be wrong. I disagree with pretty much everything that's been said here in his defence as far as the fur issue is concerned, for example. And if you track back to launch night, you'll see that I was prepared to have an open mind as far as Jodie is concerned. She's a proved herself to be a pretty pathetic person, and has no apparent qualities whatsoever.

Well it's been heavily hinted at by many of the hm's so far, and he's not lost it response yet, has he?

It's not 'double standards' at all. I never said that she was 'gobby' or 'a trouble-maker' - I said that she's a pathetic sympathy seeker. She can barely string a complete sentence together, so the last thing I'd ever call her would be 'gobby'.

You seem to have an alternative channel that broadcasts only to you, as that never happened at all, I'm afraid.

It was heavily edited, and tears (fake or not) tend to affect people's opinions. She deserved everything she got, and plenty more besides.

Yes, but Pete's aren't under his chin.

I mentioned Japan as that's his biggest market at the moment. If you had even a passing knowledge of the music scene, you'd realise that he never really went away. The fact is that he's had a major label recording contract for over 20 years. Hardly typical of a has-been.

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Yes, but Pete's aren't under his chin.

Ooh abuse, classy. Not really much point in replying now.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Can you really expect anything else when you post such puerile, immature replies?

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Can you really expect anything else when you post such puerile, immature replies?

I'm not sure what was immature about my honesty, but if I was immature, you certainly went a few steps further. It's okay for Pete to be honest, but not someone be honest about him it seems, I can afford to be honest, I make Dennis Rodman look like Ronnie Corbett.

I would ask you to read the rules, only I don't know if there is a link anywhere, with reference to abusive posts.

Have a good day

[CharlotteSometimes]

Your content had nothing to do with 'honesty'. I posted my opinion in several threads, and you chose to play troll in an attempt to get a rise out of me. I'm not some fragile little girl that buckles when the wind changes, I'm afraid.

I'm well aware of the rules, thanks very much. You attempted to belittle me, failed miserably, and I responded in kind once as opposed to several instances on your part. Yes, my response was petty. But it's better to regret something you've done rather than something you haven't done. I can't help it if my momentary childishness in the early hours is more erudite than your own, after all.