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Old 16-07-2013, 11:52 PM #1
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Default My thoughts on Daley himself and the incident

I kinda wanted to put this into one long post because there's so many different threads on so many different issues that I can't be bothered explaining them all separately, so here goes...

It became clear in the first week that Daley wasn't emotionally/mentally stable, his random crying and saying that he had come into the house to 'sort sh*t out' and become a new person, referencing his past and issues he has outside of the house, and him isolating himself from the rest of the group pretty much confirmed everything he said about himself as a person during tonight's interview (that he doesn't like group situations, had a troubled past, has difficult issues that need resolving etc).

Then everything in the middle of his stay happened...he went from a bore to having this storyline with Hazel. I'd first of all like to make a distinction here between their relationship and the incident which had him removed of which I will get onto a minute...the latter he is solely responsible, the former however I believe is largely a 50/50 issue, where both he and Hazel share the blame. He may have been the one that had a girlfriend, and his lack of self control was abhorrent, but Hazel's deliberate attempts to goad him (trying to give him a hard-on and then loving it when she had and trying to escalate the situation further even though he made clear several times he wanted her to go away) knowing full well he had a girlfriend (I don't care whether he changed his mind half way through, if you go into that house proclaiming how much you love your girlfriend, you have a ****ing girlfriend...alarm bells should've been ringing in her head that suddenly he'd decided she didn't exist when he realised he wanted to bone Hazel) and no matter how much he asked her not to come near him during the instances when his dick was throbbing. They both share the blame as far as I'm concerned and even Katie herself made that clear that she thought the same, commenting on how she couldn't understand how another woman could act in such a way.

Anyway...now onto the incident itself. I do accept the argument that it was playfighting for the most part, and I do actually think it may have been roleplay for a while, but the only thing that throws that whole argument into disarray is (and I don't think this has been mentioned much, especially by those who didn't see the live feed as the editors oh so brilliantly decided to leave it out ) the fact he was demanding she came to bed when she was outside talking to Charlie, even going as far as to make up Big Brother had spoken to him and asked her to come in because the 'garden was out of bounds'. Then he started counting down to himself and swearing under his breath when she wouldn't, saying things like 'what is it with ****ing women' (IIRC). That was probably the strangest part of it all to me.

However, putting that aside, I do believe it was playfighting that took on roleplay. They were both laughing and a lot of the comments were obviously of a sexual nature, when he said 'I'll finish you' she responded with 'I'll finish you off first'...now I'm sorry but that's definitely a sexual reference and she said it with the dirtiest smirk I've ever seen. The ass smacking was harder than it should've been but I do believe it was part of the role-play, and I do think her pulling his shorts down was to try and turn him on (it was right that she got a warning for it though, joke or not it's an unacceptable action) and the fact he laughed at it meant that it hadn't turned aggressive. The point at which it did IMO is when he had got his covers back and then went up close to her and started his whole 'respect your ****ing elders or I'll nut you one' whilst strangling her and pinning her to the bed...that was the bit whilst watching where I began to get quite disturbed, and it was clear that she did too...I'm really not buying this argument from some people that she was loving it, she got out of the bed and went and sat in a chair whilst looking sheepish for **** sake, she was trying to get as far away from him as possible. She was expressionless when he left the room to go to the diary room. And I bought her explanation in the diary room too, she seemed quite taken aback by it.

It doesn't matter that they slept together and cuddled the next day either, she obviously took it as an out of character, spur of the moment action that frightened her at that particular moment but once it had been sorted by Big Brother she assumed that would be it and things would be normal the next day. People making out that by her sleeping with him she wasn't afraid, please...do one.

Now...I don't think Daley's this evil cunting thug that deserves the death penalty as some seem to be making out on here. What he did was totally unacceptable and his ejection was completely justified, but I do believe he is (or at least has the potential to be) a nice guy. Like I said at the beginning, I genuinely think he is emotionally and mentally unstable, it was clear from the first week he went in and this incident only further proved it. His interview tonight seemed sincere and you could tell he was extremely close to breaking down, I don't just think that's over the incident, I believe that's a culmination of years of real life issues, his background, his experience on Big Brother as a whole and the realisation that was has happened in the past few days may have jeopardised his relationship and his career (which I hope it doesn't), that alone would be enough to tip anyone over the edge.

I think he just needs some professional help, that's all. There were lots of times in the house that he came across as a nice guy, and I guess that's why this whole thing was so bizarre, I mean we all thought he was the house bore for a long time, I doubt any of us would have thought he'd be ejected, especially for an incident like this. He seems apologetic and that he understands why he was removed and that it was probably for the better for him too. It's good that he thinks Big Brother has changed him too, at least some good can come of his experience.

And that's it really.
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