[alex_front2]

Tbf I agree, strong adult friendship takes at least 9 - 12 months

[aman201]

Yeah, she's right.

[Jamie.]

No I disagree, when you're in there, you would crave a decent friendship and you would become psychologically closer than others may think, hence Charlies "best friend" comment

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Jamie.

No I disagree, when you're in there, you would crave a decent friendship and you would become psychologically closer than others may think, hence Charlies "best friend" comment

Yes true. Everything is intensified in there and to have a friendship is like a lifeline.

[Tozzie]

I think Charlie wanted to feel a close friendship whilst in the house, wish I had been in the house with her, I would most definately have been her friend, she's a nice lass

[blue]

sounds so funny hazel saying this as she was willing to jump into bed with someone she had only known for few weeks, can't stand this hoe

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by blue

sounds so funny hazel saying this as she was willing to jump into bed with someone she had only known for few weeks, can't stand this hoe

What's wrong with casual sex?

[Jamie.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

What's wrong with casual sex?

When he had a girlfriend on the outside, everything was wrong.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie.

When he had a girlfriend on the outside, everything was wrong.

a) They didn't have sex.

b) Yes, HE had a girlfriend, one which he lied about having and claimed had broken up with him.

Next...

[kistar]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

a) They didn't have sex.

b) Yes, HE had a girlfriend, one which he lied about having and claimed had broken up with him.

Next...

Did you see the interview with Daleys girlfriend?

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

What's wrong with casual sex?

It makes females seem slutty cheap and nasty. Double standards, but that's life no matter how much feminists try and prove otherwise.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

It makes females seem slutty cheap and nasty. Double standards, but that's life no matter how much feminists try and prove otherwise.

The operative word there is 'seem'.


Also, you seem to misunderstand what feminists try to 'prove'. They don't try to prove that the double standard doesn't exist. They try to explain why it shouldn't

Recognising it as a double standard and then just suggesting we leave it at that seems a tad silly to me and 'that's life' isn't an adequate answer. Fifty years ago a black man and a white woman together were considered by many to be wrong, and for those who argued that such an attitude was unfair, plenty of people claimed it was a wholly natural response to object to miscegenation. Different races were expected to stay with their own: that was life.

A hundred and fifty years ago it was considered quite wrong for women to wear trousers. Questions were asked in parliament about the Pit Head Lassies and their habit of working in trousers. It was considered unwomanly. that was just life. That was just how it was.






What is 'just the way it is' now, is no more immutable than it was back then.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

What's wrong with casual sex?

He had a girlfriend remember ? Hazel knew that.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by blue

sounds so funny hazel saying this as she was willing to jump into bed with someone she had only known for few weeks, can't stand this hoe

That's fresh considering that many of our population (both male and female) will jump into bed with complete strangers after a couple of minutes of meeting!

But because it's Hazel that makes her a hoe? Nice!

[kistar]

Originally Posted by blue

sounds so funny hazel saying this as she was willing to jump into bed with someone she had only known for few weeks, can't stand this hoe

Exactly

[Indy]

Dexter even said to Charlie (though she didn't seem to understand what he was really saying) that he'd be shocked if more than 2 or 3 people from this series ever bother to even text each other to go for a drink.

Your in house ally is not the same thing as a forever close friend you can relate to day to day outside the house.

[Indy]

Dexter even said to Charlie (though she didn't seem to understand what he was really saying) that he'd be shocked if more than 2 or 3 people from this series ever bother to even text each other to go for a drink.

Your in house ally is not the same thing as a forever close friend you can relate to day to day outside the house.

[Withano]

I think you're forgetting its all day everyday for 2 months. You'd yearn for a close friend.

[Josy]

Really? 9 - 12 months? well that's a pretty specific time frame...

I think you know when you have found a real true friend regardless of the time frame, they are spending all day every day with them too not just a couple of hours here and there so I think it's definitely possible.

Hazel just probably has no true friends

[Verbal]

Well on Jeremy Kyle yesterday a couple met, moved in together, had a baby and split up within 6 months. So there.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Why does anyone listen to what this girl has to say as factual or relevant just because she knows how to have a good argument. As far as I know she's the only one that mentioned "best friend" when she felt hard done by by Charlie. She said she thought Charlie was her best friend. Charlie never said that. But anyways, yes I concur with blue, get the hoe out.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Well on Jeremy Kyle yesterday a couple met, moved in together, had a baby and split up within 6 months. So there.

haha Cyn, that comment made me laugh out loud

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Josy

Really? 9 - 12 months? well that's a pretty specific time frame...

I think you know when you have found a real true friend regardless of the time frame, they are spending all day every day with them too not just a couple of hours here and there so I think it's definitely possible.

Hazel just probably has no true friends

I mostly agree, there are people I have met who I felt a connection with instantly but I do make sure I can trust people first.
So I doubt I would be calling anyone a close friend in just a few weeks although I would be well into the friendship process.

Having said that and as you point out,a normal 2 months is out the window as to BB.
For the weeks they are in there, they are with each other 24 hours a day, 7 days a week,that reveals a lot about people that you don't get in only a few hours or less most days on the outside.

When I started Uni, I moved in with 3 other guys sharing a house and after about 4 weeks we had learned a great deal about each other and I certainly termed 2 of them as friends after a very short time.

[Ellen]

I agree in that i dont think you can have a BF within such a short period of time, friends yes, good friends maybe but not BF.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Really? 9 - 12 months? well that's a pretty specific time frame...

I think you know when you have found a real true friend regardless of the time frame, they are spending all day every day with them too not just a couple of hours here and there so I think it's definitely possible.

Hazel just probably has no true friends

Tbh, I think it must mean she has some very longterm friends.

She was talking about "best friends". If you go into BB for two months and come out and can claim someone you met in there is now your BEST friend then you mustn't have much great friends on the outside who actually know you in your life. If you're friends with someone since childhood and then claim someone you've known 2 months is now your best friend then something's wrong.

A casual friend or whatever, yes. Best friend? Unless you're Dexter and apparently have no friends, then no.