[Jordan.]

Since we're allowed polls on the razzies and threads about Scotts ban it's only fair Stacey should be allowed to be discussed openly

For people who don't know what happened with Stacey she was caught admitting to saving photos out of Meet The Members and was given a permaban for it. She was only 15 at the time and has been banned for coming up 3 years now, she's not only learnt from her mistake but also grown up since then. There's been other cases of members admitting to saving photos and even using photos to find and contact members family and friends which is above and beyond anything Stacey ever did yet no punishment was ever given to those people. On top of that there have been permabanned members in the past who have been allowed a second chance on the forum (Scott included)

so do you think it's fair that Stacey should still be punished and not given a chance to prove she's changed since then?

(I know the result of the poll alone isn't going to get her unbanned but it could atleast wake admin up and make them release they don't know EVERYTHING that's best for the forum and the members opinions should be valued too)

[Jordan.]

and before a mod says I should take it up with an admin, it's better that they see a whole opinion from the forum rather than just one member.

[arista]

"saving photos out of Meet The Members "


Thats not why she was banned

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

"saving photos out of Meet The Members "


Thats not why she was banned

Oh!

[Cherie]

just repeating what I said on the other thread.

I've never really understood banning people forever (especially when the person is in their teens or barely out of them) , I don't know what went on, but we all make mistakes and as long as we learn from them I don't really see the harm in letting her back on the premise that it would never happen again.
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[Jordan.]

Yes it was

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Yes it was

The Ban was for a outside of this
Forum photo of a member
she posted to tibb members


nothing to do with meet the members

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Since we're allowed polls on the razzies and threads about Scotts ban it's only fair Stacey should be allowed to be discussed openly

For people who don't know what happened with Stacey she was caught admitting to saving photos out of Meet The Members and was given a permaban for it. She was only 15 at the time and has been banned for coming up 3 years now, she's not only learnt from her mistake but also grown up since then. There's been other cases of members admitting to saving photos and even using photos to find and contact members family and friends which is above and beyond anything Stacey ever did yet no punishment was ever given to those people. On top of that there have been permabanned members in the past who have been allowed a second chance on the forum (Scott included)

so do you think it's fair that Stacey should still be punished and not given a chance to prove she's changed since then?

(I know the result of the poll alone isn't going to get her unbanned but it could atleast wake admin up and make them release they don't know EVERYTHING that's best for the forum and the members opinions should be valued too)

It wasn't just that though was it?

[Pete.]

from what i hear she seems like a throughly unpleasent person

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Petemitch123

from what i hear she seems like a throughly unpleasent person

Yet she was in the top 10 of one of the Most Loved competition, she must have something going for her.

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yet she was in the top 10 of one of the Most Loved competition, she must have something going for her.

Did ML 8 teach you nothing?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

Did ML 8 teach you nothing?

[Novo]

is she even bothered about being unbanned anymore? i wouldn't have permabanned her in the first place, it was one of the most over the top reactions ever.

[joeysteele]

I accept totally the mods judgements on these issues but I myself would let her back if she wanted to do so.
I liked her.

[Jordan.]

From what I've heard before, most of the mods would let her back it's the admins stopping it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

From what I've heard before, most of the mods would let her back it's the admins stopping it.

Yes its up to James alone

[Lee.]

I personally don't have a problem with Stacey.. We had a few little falling outs but nothing too serious.. However, where do you stop? If you let one permabanned member back, you'd have to let them all back?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

I personally don't have a problem with Stacey.. We had a few little falling outs but nothing too serious.. However, where do you stop? If you let one permabanned member back, you'd have to let them all back?

The difference with Stacey and other people who got permabanned is she never trolled the forum, she actually contributed.

[Cherie]

I can't see a big rush of permabanned members wanting to return tbf.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

The difference with Stacey and other people who got permabanned is she never trolled the forum, she actually contributed.

Saving and abusing photos of other members is considerably worse than trolling, with the potential of causing more harm. Besides the definition of 'trolling' is open to debate, one person's defintion is not the same as another's. Who decides the definition and how to fairly apply it? What Stacey did was considerably more clear cut.

Trying to excuse her behaviour because of her age seems a cop-out to me. If you are old enough to post on the site, you are old enough to follow the rules and be held accountable if you break them.

I think a 15 yr old should really be given the chance to grow and mature, so on one hand I think she should be allowed to return, but I think it should really be with the input from the people that she wronged.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

I think a 15 yr old should really be given the chance to grow and mature, so on one hand I think she should be allowed to return, but I think it should really be with the input from the people that she wronged.

We agree on something! I think she has learnt from this and others who have been permabanned have been given a second chance, she never has and unlike a lot of permabans has not made multi after multi which works in her favour.

Also to use Jessica (Sorry Jess) as reference some members do change for the better. Jess used to be a massive troll and spammer on here a few years back but she has completely calmed down and now is a great member to have on here.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

We agree on something! I think she has learnt from this and others who have been permabanned have been given a second chance, she never has and unlike a lot of permabans has not made multi after multi which works in her favour.

Also to use Jessica (Sorry Jess) as reference some members do change for the better. Jess used to be a massive troll and spammer on here a few years back but she has completely calmed down and now is a great member to have on here.

Yeah, but surely if you unban one member, others are entitled to the same?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

Yeah, but surely if you unban one member, others are entitled to the same?

Other members have been unbanned/allowed to return; off the top of my head I can think of Lily, Thomas C and Scott.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

Yeah, but surely if you unban one member, others are entitled to the same?

And this is another problem. Where does it end. I mean, even now we have the (wrong, admittedly) decision to overturn thomas' ban thrown at us when people are wanting their friends back.