[JoshBB]

They also released this video yesterday

Youtube video

So far I am far more convinced by the pro-EU side than the eurosceptics.

[bots]

the status quo is that we are in europe, its going to be very difficult for an out campaign to fight against that. They don't seem to have gotten off to a very good start by having 2 No campaigns ... its so crazy .. I couldn't have thought that one up How long will it be till they are arguing against each other

[Crimson Dynamo]

so I got 40 seconds in and

1. I dont want people who work or own companies telling me what to do, I would rather hear what they say when they are not getting paid and simply talking about their profits.

2. zzzzzzz leave europe and it could be bad for business


3. there seems to be some assumption by the wooden biz people that if we left the EU we then cant trade with europe?

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so I got 40 seconds in and

1. I dont want people who work or own companies telling me what to do, I would rather hear what they say when they are not getting paid and simply talking about their profits.

2. zzzzzzz leave europe and it could be bad for business


3. there seems to be some assumption by the wooden biz people that if we left the EU we then cant trade with europe?

Rather dismissive view points you have there, thats not going to encourage an Out vote. Its up to the out campaigns to re-assure the voters that they will be better off out of europe, and it will need to be done using more compelling arguments than thinly veiled racism

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Rather dismissive view points you have there, thats not going to encourage an Out vote. Its up to the out campaigns to re-assure the voters that they will be better off out of europe, and it will need to be done using more compelling arguments than thinly veiled racism

they have no chance
fear and laziness will win

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so I got 40 seconds in and

1. I dont want people who work or own companies telling me what to do, I would rather hear what they say when they are not getting paid and simply talking about their profits.

2. zzzzzzz leave europe and it could be bad for business


3. there seems to be some assumption by the wooden biz people that if we left the EU we then cant trade with europe?

It's no coincidence (I daren't say synchronisity ) that the intials for Britain Stronger In Europe are B.S.I.E or B.S For Example.

Get Us Out.

[arista]

No we want to Re Join the World


Feck €

We can trade direct with India
withouht Europe putting orders at the back of the Que
Motha Feckers

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

No we want to Re Join the World


Feck €

We can trade direct with India
withouht Europe putting orders at the back of the Que
Motha Feckers

Too right Arista. Get Us Out.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Too right Arista. Get Us Out.

You Are Most Wise

[joeysteele]

I still consider this referendum a waste of time but potentially dangerous too for the UK, a panic knee jerk reaction by David Cameron as to the rise of UKIP.

I made my mind up at 15 that I felt we were better off in the EU and nothing has changed my mind.


I doubt, even if I was undecided that I would learn anything really helpful from the media, this govt or either of the campaigns to keep us in or suggest we leave.

The real information needed to make an informed and best decision for the UK will not be given to voters.
Mind you, Karen Brady will be in my view a massive turn off for the in campaign.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I still consider this referendum a waste of time but potentially dangerous too for the UK, a panic knee jerk reaction by David Cameron as to the rise of UKIP.

I made my mind up at 15 that I felt we were better off in the EU and nothing has changed my mind.


I doubt, even if I was undecided that I would learn anything really helpful from the media, this govt or either of the campaigns to keep us in or suggest we leave.

The real information needed to make an informed and best decision for the UK will not be given to voters.
Mind you, Karen Brady will be in my view a massive turn off for the in campaign.

No Joey
Not if we Get out that that Mess


How Dare You

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No Joey
Not if we Get out that that Mess


How Dare You

Ooh I dare very easily, I will never be a little Englander and seek to isolate the UK.

Neither do I see the EU as a mess, it needs reform absolutely, from all members within it however not whining on and picking up our ball up and running off pathetically, under the delusion we are still a really great power and need no one.

I hope we get a very strong yes vote.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Ooh I dare very easily, I will never be a little Englander and seek to isolate the UK from.

Neither do I see the EU as a mess, it needs reform absolutely, from all members within it however not whining on and picking up our ball up and running off pathetically, under the delusion we are still a really great power and need no one.

I hope we get a very strong yes vote.

No its not Isolate
its Re Joining the World


ask your Dad

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No its not Isolate
its Re Joining the World


ask your Dad

My Dad is solidly pro the EU,he is livid with David Cameron for creating this uncertainty and wasting millions on a referendum, just as I am.
Just to try to appease UKIP.

I think only 5 of my whole family would consider voting to leave, everyone else is solid yes to staying in.

[Northern Monkey]

Well,That did'nt actually tell me anything i did'nt already know.So far unimpressed.Let's hope we actually get some imformation on the subject soon.Nothing in that vid convinced me that it's better to stay in.

[Kizzy]

The campaign is as dumbed down as the 'Och I'm a silly female and can't be worrying about independence' one.

[Kizzy]

Who do we need more than the rest of Europe ... China?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who do we need more than the rest of Europe ... China?

India
Australia Direct - Not via EU Rules
China


Loads of nations


And we can still trade with Europe
but not waste Billions
charge for being in the Fecking Corrupt Un Level Mess

[Kizzy]

Wouldn't dads be the ones who wanted in in the first place?...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wouldn't dads be the ones who wanted in in the first place?...

Yes back the Days of a more fair Common Market


But Now we have Gravy Train
charging
Holding Back Orders.

I look Forward to propper debates
in HD TV
as we are not getting proper debates yet
its just one side.



Rock On Ch4NewsHD 7pm

[JoshBB]

Also is it known yet whether or not 16 year olds can vote in this referendum??

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Also is it known yet whether or not 16 year olds can vote in this referendum??

I don't think it's been decided yet, Josh.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't think it's been decided yet, Josh.

Okay. I hope that they can.

After all, a decision to leave the EU will affect a 16 year old more than it would someone who is 70.

[bots]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Okay. I hope that they can.

After all, a decision to leave the EU will affect a 16 year old more than it would someone who is 70.

wow, this coming from someone apparently so concerned about equality and rights of groups. Should 70 year old's just be killed off then as they are not as important as a 16 year old?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Also is it known yet whether or not 16 year olds can vote in this referendum??

The Conservative party, well the top level of it in govt, don't want 16 year olds to have a vote. Some of their MPs do but will not dare support the move.
All other parties do, even UKIP I think.

I feel sure Labour and the SNP will be doing their best to try to force this on this govt.

No way should 16 year olds be excluded, this is a vital decision for the future of the UK and really for me, by the time this referendum is actually going to be held, anyone who would be eligible to vote in the 2020 election, should be granted the right to vote on this long term decision as to theirs and the UKs future.

Furthermore if this govt fails to grant 16 year olds the vote in this and the vote is to leave the EU, that will be a total disgrace.