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Old 11-06-2016, 08:11 AM #1
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Default Will the black community be disappointed with Natalie

Seems like the black community is once again represented by an overweight angry black woman. This seems an on going trend and I am sure an unfair representation. The gay community seems to fair much better with more likeable characters.
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I never really "got" this whole community nonsense. Maybe it's because I don't live in a city (or even big town) but I don't feel a sense lf community with other gays. They're just ... there, we might be friends or more, we might not.
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I never really "got" this whole community nonsense. Maybe it's because I don't live in a city (or even big town) but I don't feel a sense lf community with other gays. They're just ... there, we might be friends or more, we might not.
Like all the black (or whatever) folks in the country get together regularly and elect people to represent them on TV.
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Like all the black (or whatever) folks in the country get together regularly and elect people to represent them on TV.
I'm gay and tho that doesn't define me I sure as hell want to see better representations of my sexuality than that little ***** Ryan ...I lived in Germany for years and if every English person in their BB had been an aggressive volatile unreasonable prick I wud def have been pissed off about it....if I was a black guy and every black male housemate was a nob head I wud also def be pissed off about it.
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..I don't think that any housemate represents anything other than themselves and their own character../personality in their time in the house...being in a reality show is a very personal thing../decision, not a community thing...
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well at least the "gay community" havent got a bunch of mincing lisping makeup wearing looks obsessed wee boys who want to be girls...again....

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well at least the "gay community" havent got a bunch of mincing lisping makeup wearing looks obsessed wee boys who want to be girls...again....

oh
You think ? What's Ryan, John Wayne ? Ryan makes me ashamed to be gay.....
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You think ? What's Ryan, John Wayne ? Ryan makes me ashamed to be gay.....
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well at least the "gay community" havent got a bunch of mincing lisping makeup wearing looks obsessed wee boys who want to be girls...again....

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Camp =/= Wanting to be a girl

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BB too often casts people to play the same character types we've had in previous shows. That goes for most of this year's cast.
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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
I agree. It's all about the personality and actions, not the skin colour.
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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
Oh come on if someone like Georgina (sorry Nicky) behaved in the same way as Natalie she would not be being compared to Pauline or Carole or anyone like that.

Black contestants full stop seem to get put under much more scrutiny than the white or Asian Housemates and it's really unfair.

I mean just look at BB5 where Victor only opened his mouth against the annoying twat, and he ended up catching up on Jason and being evicted ahead of him when Jason had been disgusting all series.
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Oh come on if someone like Georgina (sorry Nicky) behaved in the same way as Natalie she would not be being compared to Pauline or Carole or anyone like that.

Black contestants full stop seem to get put under much more scrutiny than the white or Asian Housemates and it's really unfair.

I mean just look at BB5 where Victor only opened his mouth against the annoying twat, and he ended up catching up on Jason and being evicted ahead of him when Jason had been disgusting all series.
why use Georgina as an example, then rather use Laura as a example
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Oh come on if someone like Georgina (sorry Nicky) behaved in the same way as Natalie she would not be being compared to Pauline or Carole or anyone like that.

Black contestants full stop seem to get put under much more scrutiny than the white or Asian Housemates and it's really unfair.

I mean just look at BB5 where Victor only opened his mouth against the annoying twat, and he ended up catching up on Jason and being evicted ahead of him when Jason had been disgusting all series.
Not for me Mock, and I'm sure many others are the same - if someone like Georgina reacted in the same way as Natalie and was so awful to Jayne when she apologised I'd feel EXACTLY the same way.
And I loved Victor and hated Jason....
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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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Oh god day 3 and already people are being accused of disliking a hm because if her skin colour.

It's actually become a bit of a joke on here, if you dislike a woman on the show who happens to be black people twist it into you disliking them because of race. Natalie was an idiot last night, she was obnoxious. I for one don't care what race a person is, if they act like a dick I'll call them a dick.

Happens every year
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Oh god day 3 and already people are being accused of disliking a hm because if her skin colour.

It's actually become a bit of a joke on here, if you dislike a woman on the show who happens to be black people twist it into you disliking them because of race. Natalie was an idiot last night, she was obnoxious. I for one don't care what race a person is, if they act like a dick I'll call them a dick.

Happens every year
It works the opposite way too. If you like a black woman you're automatically categorised into the "you only like her because she's black!!!" box too.
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Andy is a great guy tho and Jackson and Huey...if indeed, Jackson is bi curious, he may not be..
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Agree. Hughie is great and definitely not a stereotype. I think he is a potential winner.
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for herself perhaps? natilie would be best to think 1st....

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