[Maru]

Hillary Clinton Releases Additional Medical Information
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...mation-n648481

Update: Looks like the Donald has finally released some of his...

Donald Trump Checkup Said to Reveal He Is Overweight
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us...lth-dr-oz.html

Donald Trump surprises Dr. Oz with results of recent physical
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/14/medi...-trump-taping/

Clinton is currently taking Armor Thyroid, Coumadin, Levaquin (temporarily), Clarinex and B-12 as needed.

Wow... interesting that she is taking Coumadin/Warfarin. I guess the doctors assessed she is at high risk for a blood clot/stroke. It's not something you normally are on unless you absolutely have to be as it is major blood thinner and you are required to keep a consistent diet and be seen for testing regularly. If you're on it and have an accident of any kind where the skin breaks, you're much more likely to bleed to death as your wounds won't clot properly without intervention... though I guess less likely if she has an entourage with her at all times and her doctor feels it's necessary to avoid the risks of a stroke. Most people just take Aspirin though

I mean it's not news, heart disease is certainly very manageable and doesn't have to complicate life too much. It's just not fun to be on Coumadin as you have a lot of additional things to be concerned about (like accidents, cutting yourself, too much of certain foods etc). All that make up she has to spend to cover up the excessive bruising... or else all the conspiracy theorists might write she's been in a brawl with Bill or she bruised when fainting, etc etc... it tends to change the color of the skin too (sometimes greenish).

Praying for Hillary's protime every time I see her eat greens at one of her campaign stops from now on

[bots]

She did suffer from a blood clot though, so you would expect her to be on some form of follow up medication after that.

[joeysteele]

I think she has been on this ever since a fall and the blood clot was removed from her Brain years ago.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

She did suffer from a blood clot though, so you would expect her to be on some form of follow up medication after that.

Yeah, the rest of her stuff looks pretty typical. It sucks having to be on any medication at all.

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think she has been on this ever since a fall and the blood clot was removed from her Brain years ago.

Wow.

Oh, looks like the Donald might've released something...

Donald Trump Checkup Said to Reveal He Is Overweight
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us...lth-dr-oz.html

OMG, an overweight American?? Nooooooo

[bots]

Originally Posted by Maru

Donald Trump Checkup Said to Reveal He Is Overweight
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us...lth-dr-oz.html

OMG, an overweight American?? Nooooooo

They didnt mention that he had a ferret grafted onto the top of his head

[Johnnyuk123]

She got a blood clot just before being asked to give evidence too.

[Maru]

Pretty smart on Trump's part to release the actual doctor as part of a daytime TV show

[Maru]

[Maru]

That's literally what my husband had this morning for "breakfast". I even brought him home a nice sub from grocery shopping.

[Shaun]

Is it crazy to think that some things should remain private? Even if it's for a case of transparency, what's the point of that when everything either candidate would do as president would contradict 80% of their campaign pledges anyway.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Is it crazy to think that some things should remain private? Even if it's for a case of transparency, what's the point of that when everything either candidate would do as president would contradict 80% of their campaign pledges anyway.

It's more to do with proving they're healthy enough (i.e. of sound mind) to be the commander-in-chief. The president on The West Wing hid the fact he had MS from his staffers and the electorate and was almost investigated for effectively lying under oath before accepting a congressional censure

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's more to do with proving they're healthy enough (i.e. of sound mind) to be the commander-in-chief. The president on The West Wing hid the fact he had MS from his staffers and the electorate and was almost investigated for effectively lying under oath before accepting a congressional censure

None of this stuff it to do with their mental health though, I don't understand any of this either tbh, I don't get why we need to know their medical reports at all

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

None of this stuff it to do with their mental health though, I don't understand any of this either tbh, I don't get why we need to know their medical reports at all

I know... I mean untimely death has occurred in the presidency before... and that is why they have a Vice President of course... so why should I care if Hilary is taking medication for a thyroid disorder ...or if Donald is thick in girth. It's the fact that Donald is delusional and uncomprehendable in his speeches that worries me

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I know... I mean untimely death has occurred in the presidency before... and that is why they have a Vice President of course... so why should I care if Hilary is taking medication for a thyroid disorder ...or if Donald is thick in girth. It's the fact that Donald is delusional and uncomprehendable in his speeches that worries me

Exactly I mean they're 68 and 70 years old, neither of them are going to be near their physical peak and shouldn't be expected to be... it's kind of crazy to think that either of them would be. How many people that age don't have some/occasional health issues (especially with having high stress and pressured jobs too)

[Maru]

Originally Posted by the truth

playing to the loony left there pal....got to be politically correct at all time regardless of the argument.....most of what he says is perfectly rational, tariffs, trades, jobs at home, protection and safeguards against terrorism, reduce the all time national debt, reduce corporate corruption, support small to medium businesses. keep social security but increase payments to veterans, reduce wars in the middle eat, is not in the hands of corporate money men , he rejects their funding, scrap nafta and ttip etc the list goes on..though he is wrong on guns imo....clinton ignores the debt, empowers yet more corporate greed, corruption takes their money, ignores their obscene tax dodging, the endless wasteful government projects under the democrats, shes in the pockets of umpteen banks too

We have already had numerous threads with these discussions. This thread is for discussions about their medical records. Let's get back on topic.

Originally Posted by Jamie89

None of this stuff it to do with their mental health though, I don't understand any of this either tbh, I don't get why we need to know their medical reports at all

I understand that feeling. The problem is the precedent has already been set. Other presidents prior have released their records with little to no complaint and for that reason the people and the media feel entitled to these records... (such as tax records)

It's been discussed in another thread, but basically the US presidency is a very physically demanding job. It's taxing on the healthiest person and despite there being fallbacks (vice presidents), it is considered to be a sensitive position and that the individual who takes the position needs to be fit enough (and qualified enough) to handle the requirements of the job.

That said, the US presidency is one of the most important offices in the world (for better or worse...). Therefore having a president die or have to quit mid-term could become a major issue for the US. Especially if we are in the middle of touchy negotiations abroad. If Trump or Hillary actually do do their jobs and somehow fix an ineffective congress, then having them stay on board for four years getting the congress to function properly would mean tremendous progress in this country. Having a president quit or die midterm would be a terrible distraction not to mention, slow any progress we try to make. (and may end up breaking deals already made)

In short, privacy is a not a luxury of the presidency and is not considered to be a right for those running in the public in the US. When there's incidents that are occur here in public that involve the mentally ill with police for example and the police say it is justified in the records, then those dealings are usually demanded by the public and the media in order to provide some kind transparency... it's just how our culture works and unfortunately how our media works. We demand transparency 24/7 and we don't treat political positions the same as private citizens.

I agree to some extent, it is getting ridiculous the amount of emphasis they are placing on medical records versus say... the facts and positions that politicians are actually running on... that's the state of our political atmosphere and if it wasn't medical records, it would be tax records... or phone records... or email records... that's just the nature of our political system.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Maru

I understand that feeling. The problem is the precedent has already been set. Other presidents prior have released their records with little to no complaint and for that reason the people and the media feel entitled to these records... (such as tax records)

It's been discussed in another thread, but basically the US presidency is a very physically demanding job. It's taxing on the healthiest person and despite there being fallbacks (vice presidents), it is considered to be a sensitive position and that the individual who takes the position needs to be fit enough (and qualified enough) to handle the requirements of the job.

That said, the US presidency is one of the most important offices in the world (for better or worse...). Therefore having a president die or have to quit mid-term could become a major issue for the US. Especially if we are in the middle of touchy negotiations abroad. If Trump or Hillary actually do do their jobs and somehow fix an ineffective congress, then having them stay on board for four years getting the congress to function properly would mean tremendous progress in this country. Having a president quit or die midterm would be a terrible distraction not to mention, slow any progress we try to make. (and may end up breaking deals already made)

In short, privacy is a not a luxury of the presidency and is not considered to be a right for those running in the public in the US. When there's incidents that are occur here in public that involve the mentally ill with police for example and the police say it is justified in the records, then those dealings are usually demanded by the public and the media in order to provide some kind transparency... it's just how our culture works and unfortunately how our media works. We demand transparency 24/7 and we don't treat political positions the same as private citizens.

I agree to some extent, it is getting ridiculous the amount of emphasis they are placing on medical records versus say... the facts and positions that politicians are actually running on... that's the state of our political atmosphere and if it wasn't medical records, it would be tax records... or phone records... or email records... that's just the nature of our political system.

I get what your saying, I still don't entirely see the need for it if I'm being completely honest, but if it's a fair playing field and the same rule applies for everyone then that's all fair enough really. I suppose the thing that's bothered me about all the health talk is the way I feel it's been used to drive an agenda unfairly against one of the candidates, rather than it being about politics. That's the way it's appeared to me anyway. It's all been turned into just another thing to distract from the politics and make this election appear even more of a farce

[Jack_]

That said, when you have a candidate that's already as irrational as Donald Trump, medical issues seem rather inconsequential

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

That said, when you have a candidate that's already as irrational as Donald Trump, medical issues seem rather inconsequential

playing to the loony left there pal....got to be politically correct at all time regardless of the argument.....most of what he says is perfectly rational, tariffs, trades, jobs at home, protection and safeguards against terrorism, reduce the all time national debt, reduce corporate corruption, support small to medium businesses. keep social security but increase payments to veterans, reduce wars in the middle eat, is not in the hands of corporate money men , he rejects their funding, scrap nafta and ttip etc the list goes on..though he is wrong on guns imo....clinton ignores the debt, empowers yet more corporate greed, corruption takes their money, ignores their obscene tax dodging, the endless wasteful government projects under the democrats, shes in the pockets of umpteen banks too

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by the truth

playing to the loony left there pal....got to be politically correct at all time regardless of the argument.....most of what he says is perfectly rational, tariffs, trades, jobs at home, protection and safeguards against terrorism, reduce the all time national debt, reduce corporate corruption, support small to medium businesses. keep social security but increase payments to veterans, reduce wars in the middle eat, is not in the hands of corporate money men , he rejects their funding, scrap nafta and ttip etc the list goes on..though he is wrong on guns imo....clinton ignores the debt, empowers yet more corporate greed, corruption takes their money, ignores their obscene tax dodging, the endless wasteful government projects under the democrats, shes in the pockets of umpteen banks too

Please stop using terms like 'loony left', it's hysterical and embarrassing, not to mention irrelevant when you're effectively preaching to the choir here 'pal'. I can't stand Hillary, and she represents very little (if anything) of what left leaning politics actually stands for. This entire presidential election is a nightmare and both candidates are a joke, so don't try to pigeonhole me as a Clinton stan like you do with everyone else - because it couldn't be further from the truth.

[arista]

[the truth]

hillary is collapsing and she has had blood clots and a serious cough sadly....it has effected her and she is low energy at the moment...trump seems as strong as a horse, especially for a man of 70...his family do tend to live long lives. so this is really a hillary issue. lets hope she stops lying about it and we get back to the politics

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by the truth

hillary is collapsing and she has had blood clots and a serious cough sadly....it has effected her and she is low energy at the moment...trump seems as strong as a horse, especially for a man of 70...his family do tend to live long lives. so this is really a hillary issue. lets hope she stops lying about it and we get back to the politics

Or perhaps this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37369615

"Hillary Clinton 'healthy and fit', says doctor"

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Or perhaps this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37369615

"Hillary Clinton 'healthy and fit', says doctor"

lol yea we didnt see her collapse , we havent heard her cough endlessly , lets forget she has pneumonia and we havent heard her slow and weak and we have forgotten she is on warfrin still for blood clot prevention...her doctors note is a bigger joke than anything...clinton just cant stop flat out lying

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by the truth

lol yea we didnt see her collapse , we havent heard her cough endlessly , lets forget she has pneumonia and we havent heard her slow and weak and we have forgotten she is on warfrin still for blood clot prevention...her doctors note is a bigger joke than anything...clinton just cant stop flat out lying

Who said to forget anything? The point is that you want to know the current status of her health, and a doctor has provided that... what more do you want? Why is your judgement of her health a better analysis than that of a trained medical professional

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Who said to forget anything? The point is that you want to know the current status of her health, and a doctor has provided that... what more do you want? Why is your judgement of her health a better analysis than that of a trained medical professional