[Jack_]

Thought I'd post seeing as this was being discussed yesterday. Looks like Joey's been proven right (as usual)...took less than 24 hours!

Clip here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7726506.html

And here's a few other right-wing sources to stop the inevitable 'oh, that lefty paper would say that!'. Keeps everyone happy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-13-years.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-conservative/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/352050...eral-election/

[Cherie]

awful woman

[joeysteele]

This just demonstrates her unsavoury thinking,awful woman.
She states she is a supporter of this vile barbaric and sick unnecessary brutal murder of animals,by even more sick ignorant sights all on horseback behind loads of dogs.

She'll get it through too with a bigger majority.
Absolutely sick.

I for one would never think favourably or have the slightest admiration for anyone advocating this cruelty.

Says a lot about her and her Party too,since it will be presented for a vote when she wins this election and given the support to bring this back then.

I knew she would want to bring it back,it's no surprise to me.

[smudgie]

It will be interesting to see what result a free vote brings, could put it to bed once and for all.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

It will be interesting to see what result a free vote brings, could put it to bed once and for all.

It was in the Conservative manifesto last time.
Sorry I would not want to take the slightest risk of this being brought back.

You actually think,even on a freevote with a much bigger majority,Con MPs raking in funds and support from the foxhunting lobby,won't support legalising it again.

When the majority is to bring it back on a freevote,would you still call it 'interesting'.
Unbelievable.

It should be put to bed anyway,with no attempts from anyone with power, with an ounce of decency even considering bringing it back at all.
In a freevote Con MPs along with Mrs May leading them will vote it back once she gets her bigger win on June 8th.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It was in the Conservative manifesto last time.
Sorry I would not want to take the slightest risk of this being brought back.

You actually think,even on a freevote with a much bigger majority,Con MPs raking in funds and support from the foxhunting lobby,won't support legalising it again.

When the majority is to bring it back on a freevote,would you still call it 'interesting'.
Unbelievable.

It should be put to bed anyway,with no attempts from anyone with power, with an ounce of decency even considering bringing it back at all.
In a freevote Con MPs along with Mrs May leading them will vote it back once she gets her bigger win on June 8th.

Better voting for or against it than having it forced through like last time.
On a personal level, I don't really have as strong an aversion to it as you.
Something the countryside folk should have decided, not the townies.
Poor chickens that the vermin foxes kill don't have a choice.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Better voting for or against it than having it forced through like last time.
On a personal level, I don't really have as strong an aversion to it as you.
Something the countryside folk should have decided, not the townies.
Poor chickens that the vermin foxes kill don't have a choice.

Ah but that is nature. The food chain.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Ah but that is nature. The food chain.

Yes, but what about our poor little chickens.
Killed before they reach the oven

Oooops, edit.
Not that I roast chickens alive.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Better voting for or against it than having it forced through like last time.
On a personal level, I don't really have as strong an aversion to it as you.
Something the countryside folk should have decided, not the townies.
Poor chickens that the vermin foxes kill don't have a choice.

That explains a lot.

Clearly it would suit you it back or not.
Those of us who are disgusted and sick at the sight of a group of grown up people on horseback with a pack of hounds chasing one fox,to see it torn apart alive,laughing and drinking afterwards.
Fine if you admire that sort of thing.

What animals do with each other is nature.
This gets called sport for goodness sake.

Clearly she has your your support to bring this shocking thing back anyway.
No person or Party would ever get mine to bring it back for sure.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by smudgie

It will be interesting to see what result a free vote brings, could put it to bed once and for all.

My thoughts too. I know plenty of Tories - country people - who would be horrified at the prospect of a return to hunting with dogs.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

My thoughts too. I know plenty of Tories - country people - who would be horrified at the prospect of a return to hunting with dogs.

Enough to be sure to defeat it,would you guarantee that.
Because I would say for sure with a bigger majority,it would be won not lost at all.

I'd guarantee and predict that, despite the Con MPs and supporters in principle against it but who would not likely vote against it even in a freevote.

Personally I'd rather not see this woman have the chance to even try to bring it back.
With all going on in the UK right now, that this is even in her mind still to do just builds more contempt from me towards her.

It's barbaric, no decent person would even just think of using power to bring it back.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Enough to be sure to defeat it,would you guarantee that.
Because I would say for sure with a bigger majority,it would be won not lost at all.

I'd guarantee and predict that, despite the Con MPs and supporters in principle against it but who would not likely vote against it even in a freevote.

Personally I'd rather not see this woman have the chance to even try to bring it back.
With all going on in the UK right now, that this is even in her mind still to do just builds more contempt from me towards her.

It's barbaric, no decent person would even just think of using power to bring it back.

For once we are in agreement, Joey. I can't imagine what they're thinking...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

For once we are in agreement, Joey. I can't imagine what they're thinking...

Oh I still agree a great deal with you,I generally get where you come from on issues but many times still,you fire off thought provoking points on issues that make me think and re think.

Really glad we agree on this issue.
It's something I've hated ever since I first came across it.

[Marsh.]

OH, do Foxes not eat the chickens. Just kill them for fun?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

OH, do Foxes not eat the chickens. Just kill them for fun?

I watched a documentary on foxes a few years ago.
The suggestion was they killed a lot of chickens, with the aim to carry them off and bury them to eat later to feed themselves and their young.
It's still nature.

The problem is,a lot of noise is made when the Fox gets where the birds are, ending often with the Fox being disturbed in its returning often to carry off of the dead birds,when farmers/ownets are alerted.
So that's when sometimes many birds are found killed.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

OH, do Foxes not eat the chickens. Just kill them for fun?

Yes, they normally make sure they kill the lot before they run away.
They like nothing better than biting their heads off in a frenzied murder attack.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yes, they normally make sure they kill the lot before they run away.
They like nothing better than biting their heads off in a frenzied murder attack.

They likely kill them all as the documentary I watched indicated both for food to be buried and also to stop the noise made by the birds.

Are you advocating what the Fox does for survival and in nature,justifies all those people all dressed up on horseback with packs of dogs chasing a fox for ages,exhausting it and tearing it to pieces alive.
Good grief just typing that makes me feel sick inside.

I lived in the country and as a child saw the end of a foxhunt.
It haunts me still the sight of it,one of the most horrible things I've ever seen for sure.
I've hated foxhunting ever since.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They likely kill them all as the documentary I watched indicated both for food to be buried and also to stop the noise made by the birds.

Are you advocating what the Fox does for survival and in nature,justifies all those people all dressed up on horseback with packs of dogs chasing a fox for ages,exhausting it and tearing it to pieces alive.
Good grief just typing that makes me feel sick inside.

I lived in the country and as a child saw the end of a foxhunt.
It haunts me still the sight of it,one of the most horrible things I've ever seen for sure.
I've hated foxhunting ever since.

I am not advocating anything other than a free vote.
As I have said, in all honesty, it does not bother me either way in as much as I can see both sides of it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I am not advocating anything other than a free vote.
As I have said, in all honesty, it does not bother me either way in as much as I can see both sides of it.

Sounds more to me you're trying to make an argument for hunting.foxes with dogs.
If I am wrong on that I apologise unresevedly.

If however you think on a freevote with many more Con MPs that it would not get legalised again,then I predict you are way off the mark.
Because I'd bet loads it would be easily.

However I'd rather not risk any vote being able to take place at all.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

OH, do Foxes not eat the chickens. Just kill them for fun?

Yes they kill for fun, on the old family farm, they were the worst, really evil creatures, killed so many of our chicken, would never eat them.

Now living in portsmouth we are over run with foxes, its only a matter of time before one kills a young child and then labour will have blood on its hand once again.

Bring back fox hunting!!!

[Greg!]

Disgusting woman

[joeysteele]

Cats,domestic ones,go around killing birds and not eating them,leaving blood strewn feathers all over the place.
Ruining people's flowerbeds etc:
Should people go hunting cats with packs of dogs.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Cats,domestic ones,go around killing birds and not eating them,leaving blood strewn feathers all over the place.
Ruining people's flowerbeds etc:
Should people go hunting cats with packs of dogs.

Absolutely not.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Absolutely not.

I agree..

[reece(:]

She's a vile piece of work