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07-12-2023, 06:15 PM | #1 | |||
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Claims he was ‘forced’ to leave the UK and live in the US….I swear he made the choice to step back…and I swear he wallowed in his Documentary about their flight of freedom when they left for Canada….
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07-12-2023, 08:15 PM | #2 | |||
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Did you ever see his interview with Dr. Gabor? He's some sort of pseudo-science mental health professional/"trauma expert". It was wild. Their philosophy is easily summed up as looking for trauma under every rock and its influence in every aspect of life. Listening to Harry, you'd think he was on the same tier intellectually as the person "diagnosing" him when it comes to mental health. If that's the type of intellectual exceptionalism he's been surrounded by his entire privileged life, it's no wonder he's still looking for more reasons to pin blame for his issues on things that "happened" to him... nothing he caused, but that he was just an innocent bystander...
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07-12-2023, 09:17 PM | #3 | |||
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Maru, describing Gabor Maté - an extremely well known mental health/psychology author as well as a very experienced, and 100% qualified, Medical Doctor - as "That Doctor Gabor - some sort of trauma expert" like he's some conman who bought a degree off the internet is certainly wild. Gosh.
And trauma is absolutely at the core of the Royal Family going way back. Even if it wasn't, Harry lost his mother at a young age, and his parental unit to ugly (and very public) divorce before that. Love him or loathe him, it would be a wild take to suggest that Harry is NOT a product of generational trauma. Last edited by Soldier Boy; 07-12-2023 at 09:18 PM. |
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07-12-2023, 09:24 PM | #4 | |||
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I’ve always felt sorry and at the same time always liked Harry I recall him being the national treasure at one stage .. before Meghan Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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07-12-2023, 10:21 PM | #5 | |||
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Harry was much loved by the public…after he met Meghan they were equally adored…you only have to gauge that by the millions that lined the streets for their Wedding day. When they stepped down and only wanted the job Part time but with all the trimmings the Queen stepped in and said you are either in or you are out. They chose to leave and jumped on their flight of ‘Freedom’ as they called it…laughing and mocking it in their pathetic Documentry. They chose the path to freedom but decided to spend most of their new found freedom publicly annihilating the Royal Family accusing them of cutting off their income/Security and not allowing their children to inherit their titles…playing the victim card. To claim they were forced out is rubbish….it was what they wanted to do. They didn’t want to be Senior Royals..they wanted the best of both worlds and they simply couldn’t have it. Harry now comes across as a spoiled brat…they can well afford their own Security…so what’s the problem. |
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07-12-2023, 10:33 PM | #6 | |||
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H&M simply thought they were bigger than the royal family and could go their own way without being told what to do. People can make up their own minds whether they think they were right or not
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08-12-2023, 12:07 AM | #7 | ||
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Forced? What utter rubbish. They left, I have no doubt majorly egged on by Meghan, to get far away to sunny California, envisioning themselves as Royal superstars fawned over by A list celebs, attending star studded galas and making buckets of cash by throwing Harry's own family under the bus. I mean, poor Meghan was amazed she had to shake hands with commoners and not even get paid for doing it….and nobody asked the delicate flower if she was okay, while they were bending over backwards to accommodate her many demands.
They had to think up good reasons for jumping ship - and Meghan’s long list of ridiculous tall tales to Oprah were the result. Unluckily for them the public aren’t as thick as they thought. Their vile behaviour has shown them up for what they are - a pair of talentless, mean, destructive laughing stocks who are now reduced to nothing more than desperate tabloid fodder material. |
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08-12-2023, 12:51 AM | #8 | |||
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Harry has had a massive fall from grace. He was adored by the general public when he displayed the decent side of his character. He might well have some grievances and some mental health issues stemming from his past, and I can accept that and feel for him if that’s the case.
Unfortunately, he has become self-absorbed, self-pitying and vengeful, and has dealt with issues in the wrong way. If he has mental health issues, he should be dealing with them privately with a professional, rather than broadcasting them to the world. In the same way, he should address family grievances directly with those involved, rather than betraying them through interviews and tell-all books, which will probably destroy any and all relationships with those family members. He lacks any sense of dignity or self-respect. At a time when many people in the world are suffering serious hardships due to the pandemic, war, natural disasters and poverty, and at a time when the average person in the street is struggling, it is hard to feel pity for someone who has had the privileges in life that Harry has had. To be complaining of having a smaller bedroom than his brother at Windsor Castle is petty, ridiculous and infuriating to me, when working class siblings often have to share a bedroom throughout their childhoods. He has no idea of the hardships of people living in the real world, no experience of the horrors of truly damaging upbringings and families, and no concept of the destructiveness of the severe mental health anguish that emerges as a consequence. Maybe Harry would be happier if he reframed his thinking, and focused on all those things he was lucky enough to have had and all the positives in his very privileged life. |
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08-12-2023, 03:23 AM | #9 | |||
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My main takeaway from Harry is if this is what he's been surrounded by, this kind of chatter, then it's no wonder he still has the problems he does. Last edited by Maru; 08-12-2023 at 03:24 AM. |
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08-12-2023, 03:40 AM | #10 | |||
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08-12-2023, 06:47 AM | #11 | |||
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08-12-2023, 06:51 AM | #12 | |||
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I dont think Harry could be forced to do anything but if he was pushed it would have been by his wife .
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08-12-2023, 07:47 AM | #13 | |||
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I think this is easily covered by 'recollections may vary'
He wasn't forced to do anything, they wanted their cake and eat it and Liz said no, so he flounced off
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13-03-2024, 08:03 AM | #14 | |||
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Thought this was the best place to put this .. given the thread title
Sooooo apparently historians have found some remarkable similarities between Harry and Henry ( the eighth ) .. Sadly I can’t remember them all but the obvious ones were that they were both gingers , second ( spare ) sons and Henry was known as Harry when he was younger. Both very outgoing and both sporty ( and liked the women) Both were allied to do just about anything they wanted with zero restrictions Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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13-03-2024, 08:13 AM | #15 | |||
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Not an insane comparison tbh. Henry VIII was instrumental in changing the monarchy and governance, and the relationship between Church and State.
I don't doubt Prince Harry would implement similar changes to suit himself, if he could. |
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13-03-2024, 08:20 AM | #16 | |||
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[Sooooo apparently historians have found some remarkable similarities between Harry and Henry ( the eighth ) ..]
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13-03-2024, 08:20 AM | #17 | ||
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13-03-2024, 08:28 AM | #18 | |||
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13-03-2024, 08:33 AM | #19 | |||
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Around 1537 before he became so obese, it killed him. |
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13-03-2024, 08:36 AM | #20 | |||
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Thank you for that, I had forgotten about what he looked like and how he died.
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13-03-2024, 08:42 AM | #21 | |||
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He suffered terrible infections due to a jousting accident and never really recovered . He gained weight at an alarming rate when he was dibilitated due to the injury and subsequent infections ..and was unpredictable and angry as he was always so poorly . His wounds never healed due to severe infections and the wounds stank terribly .. you could smell him from 50 yards ! His life ( and the lives of others … wives) and the history of our country would have been so different if he hadn’t gone jousting thst fateful morn . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by Zizu; 13-03-2024 at 08:45 AM. |
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13-03-2024, 08:43 AM | #22 | ||
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The bloke has turned out to be a complete bell end I know that’s hard for you to hear as you love to rim him when ever a thread comes up. |
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13-03-2024, 08:46 AM | #23 | |||
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How is all that guff relevant to my comparisons post ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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13-03-2024, 10:24 AM | #24 | |||
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They both look like arseholes
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13-03-2024, 12:23 PM | #25 | |||
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Henry VIII had grandparents with serious mental health issues. His grandmother, who was behind the tudors gaining the throne, was completely insane. She was a big influence on Henry in his youth
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