[nodisharmony]

When you vote for Labour, there will be reasons for your vote and basically, you should all realise that there is only two main parties and voting for Liberal or anyone else is a wasted vote.

The next election will be the same and it will be Labour or Conservative and thats that.

But, if the vote is for Labour, there are two sides of Labour which you must realise and it does exist.

There is the (Left-wingers) & the (Right-wingers)


1)
Do you know what the two sides mean?


2)
What is your reasons for being a Left-winger and why?


3)
What is your reasons for being a Right-winger and why?


4)
How extreme are you, in relation to either side.


5)
Are you not bothered about the Left & Right side, and simply vote for Labour, just because their policies and ideas for the future are better than the Conservatives?


6)
Does the Left or Right side extremists in the party, have any real influence to the way the party is governed?


7)
Can there be serious problems from being an extremist of either side, Left or Right?


8)
Any News articles that you can post in this thread which could prove your case in relation to the above question 7)


9)
Do you support your local GP and what side is he or she on?


10)
If Keith Vaz is your GP, or you are a fan of him, where do you think his views are, Left or Right?






nodisharmony

[Dr43%er]

Keith Vaz. His views are firmly in his wallet.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

5)
Are you not bothered about the Left & Right side, and simply vote for Labour, just because their policies and ideas for the future are better than the Conservatives?

Funny.

[Jackie]

hello lauren

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Lauren

Funny.

Not into the two main parties who will always run the country then?

I guess you think they are the same? or have I read you wrong?





nodisharmony

[Lauren]

Nah, I was just laughing at the point that "Labour's policies are better than Conservative" - I'm a right winger myself and have always been critical of the Labour party.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Lauren

Funny.

That is the funniest part of a post I have read all day.

Go Conservatives!

[Stu]

From what I can gether in most countries their is Liberal and Conservative in one form or another.

Im liberal all the way for anything in life and politics.

[Dr43%er]

In that case Stu, you are a wasted person according to Nodis.

[Lauren]

I don't think nodis was saying that. I think he means actually voting liberals in the general election won't reap benefits as they need a dramatic (unnatural) increase for them to win.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Stu
From what I can gether in most countries their is Liberal and Conservative in one form or another.

Im liberal all the way for anything in life and politics.

Well, when the Tories ruled for so long, the majority of the voting public wanted a change, so here came New-Labour (Left & Right).

But now, Conservatives are the change, well I am a Conservative voter and always have been, however, I don't agree with all their policies and much other stuff.

But many think they are all as bad and corrupt as each other

"Let's blame an individual", eh

One resignation solves everything. Well that's rubbish.......


Fall-girl, Fall-guy......Don't work......








nodisharmony

[Stu]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
In that case Stu, you are a wasted person according to Nodis.

Fine by me!!!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
In that case Stu, you are a wasted person according to Nodis.

Read the post Dr43%er

I state that Labour or Conservative in the UK will be the next Government in this country.

When the winner is announced, I shall always be right. But you know I always am.....






nodisharmony

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Lauren
I don't think nodis was saying that. I think he means actually voting liberals in the general election won't reap benefits as they need a dramatic (unnatural) increase for them to win.

Exactly what I said Lauren

Thanks for clarifying that fact to the three letter occupant in this thread...





nodisharmony

[Dr43%er]

"I shall always be right. But you know I always am....." Are you **** as like.

To say it is a wasted vote is to stifle political freedom. Even if they do not win they can have an effect on the political landscape when it come to voting in parliament.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
"I shall always be right. But you know I always am....." Are you **** as like.

To say it is a wasted vote is to stifle political freedom. Even if they do not win they can have an effect on the political landscape when it come to voting in parliament.

It's hardly stifling political freedom... had nodis said "I forbid anyone to vote lib dems" then yes... that would be stifling. To simply state that he doesn't believe it will have a major impact in terms of general election isn't.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
"I shall always be right. But you know I always am....." Are you **** as like.

To say it is a wasted vote is to stifle political freedom. Even if they do not win they can have an effect on the political landscape when it come to voting in parliament.

A vote for Liberal in the next election, is viewed as a wasted vote, when it is complete and total FACT, that it will be Labour or Conservative who will win.

We all know about "seats", but that is nothing compared to "total power" and when a pupil is under the control of a teacher in the before-hand, it just shows who has the control.

A three-letter occupant within a thread who has been told that I, "nodisharmony", has said that a member is a wasted person, when I actually said, that voting another party, other than Labour or Conservative, is a wasted vote. not a person.

That is fact!! which forum member Lauren, aslo pointed out.

Think before you post, like I always do




nodisharmony

[Stu]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

A vote for Liberal in the next election, is viewed as a wasted vote, when it is complete and total FACT, that it will be Labour or Conservative who will win.

We all know about "seats", but that is nothing compared to "total power" and when a pupil is under the control of a teacher in the before-hand, it just shows who has the control.

A three-letter occupant within a thread who has been told that I, "nodisharmony", has said that a member is a wasted person, when I actually said, that voting another party, other than Labour or Conservative, is a wasted vote. not a person.

That is fact!! which forum member Lauren, aslo pointed out.

Think before you post, like I always do




nodisharmony

Why are you constantly reffering to me as a three letter occupant?!

I still stand by my comment that being 'wasted' if fine by me. As far as politics , I happen to be utterly apathetic towards them.

You also said liberal , and I quote , is 'a wasted vote' and now your retorting to merely saying its 'viewed' as a wasted vote.

Where the heck do you bloody stand?!

threeletteroccupant

[Dr43%er]

Just because they may not win does not mean it is a wasted vote. Simply incorrect. Not to vote is a wasted vote. Why was brown after Ashdown to work with Labour if he did not think he had to get the LibDems on side or they had something to offer? Tell you what, no one vote for what they believe in and we end up with a dictatorship.

With regards to Stu and being a wasted person, I think he got what I was saying, and as I was talking to him, that is good enough for me.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Just because they may not win does not mean it is a wasted vote. Simply incorrect. Not to vote is a wasted vote. Why was brown after Ashdown to work with Labour if he did not think he had to get the LibDems on side or they had something to offer? Tell you what, no one vote for what they believe in and we end up with a dictatorship.

With regards to Stu and being a wasted person, I think he got what I was saying, and as I was talking to him, that is good enough for me.

I got what you were saying and im not even legally allowed to vote , and even if I was , i would not anyway [hence wasted vote] .

I was merely commenting that in general I would be liberal for anything in life and am not too fond of most aspects of conservatism.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Stu

Why are you constantly reffering to me as a three letter occupant?!

I still stand by my comment that being 'wasted' if fine by me. As far as politics , I happen to be utterly apathetic towards them.

You also said liberal , and I quote , is 'a wasted vote' and now your retorting to merely saying its 'viewed' as a wasted vote.

Where the heck do you bl***y stand?!

threeletteroccupant

You have read the thread Stu, and your comment:- Fine by me!!!

Seemed strange??? especially after myself and Lauren clarified things and my thread was quite clear on that matter.

Regarding the "Three letter occupant", that is due to another past matter!!!, but anyway, your username has three letters, so that is neither-here-nor-there. Anyway, I shall call you "Stu" from now on...

I stand on the Conservative side, as I have said.

The Liberal's want the "Euro", thank god they won't get in

I don't follow politics too much, I just look at unfair and corrupt situations, which crop up from time to time and need pointing out.

Nobody can change evrything







nodisharmony

[Stu]

.

Originally posted by nodisharmony

You have read the thread Stu, and your comment:- Fine by me!!!

Seemed strange??? especially after myself and Lauren clarified things and my thread was quite clear on that matter.

Regarding the "Three letter occupant", that is due to another past matter!!!, but anyway, your username has three letters, so that is neither-here-nor-there. Anyway, I shall call you "Stu" from now on...

I stand on the Conservative side, as I have said.

The Liberal's want the "Euro", thank god they won't get in

I don't follow politics too much, I just look at unfair and corrupt situations, which crop up from time to time and need pointing out.

Nobody can change evrything







nodisharmony

I havent actually read my comment per say , but I feel I have a pretty good grasp on it , considering it was me who typed it up

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Just because they may not win does not mean it is a wasted vote. Simply incorrect. Not to vote is a wasted vote. Why was brown after Ashdown to work with Labour if he did not think he had to get the LibDems on side or they had something to offer? Tell you what, no one vote for what they believe in and we end up with a dictatorship.

With regards to Stu and being a wasted person, I think he got what I was saying, and as I was talking to him, that is good enough for me.

I am on about the party who runs the country, not about "seats", I have stated that.

It is like votes for the BNP, Raving Loony, Green etc... etc...

There are always going to be voters but the voters are doing little impact, as they simply won't win the election, so really, I would say it is better to understand the inevitable. But, the other parties do get voted and that is upto the individuals and freedom of choice.

Freedom is important and understanding the word in all contexts.

Lord Paddy Ashdown is a great politician and Gordon Brown will know that. But the Government has think-tanks and it may seem that Gordon has made the decisions, but one man still can't do everything in Government.

It's teamwork

______________________________________
If Stu got what you were saying, I can only assess, that there are other issues which I can't see in this thread, but know about indirectly.






nodisharmony

[Stu]

If Stu got what you were saying, I can only assess, that there are other issues which I can't see in this thread, but know about indirectly.

I responded to his post in a joking manner with the intention of pointing out that being wasted isint all that bad.

I might be the only one seeing humor in all of this.

[Dr43%er]

"I am on about the party who runs the country, not about "seats", I have stated that."

You did not state that until you needed to bolster your argument further on in the thread.