[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

You would say that though wouldn't you. You're not even trying to understand or accept different opinions.

You gave me this to work with. Theres opinions which Ive enjoyed discussing on this thread, and then theres just nonsensical messes. I’ll leave it as this, you’re probably inadvertedly doing a better job at convincing the forum that pan could be a thing than I am.

Originally Posted by Redway

Because transexualism isn't a discrete sexual orientation but gender orientation. Call me old-skool but I do think sexuality tends to one of two directions (hetero or homo-sexual). Everything else either in my eyes has nothing to do with actual sexual orientation (demisexuality) or else just doesn't count as a bona-fide label. As PC and accepting as we get over the decades there's fundamentals of sexuality. Reproduction's one of them.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Plenty of people are "aroused" by a personality. Ever heard the phrase "laughing her into bed" ?

The differences are too insignificant to count toward anything, someone of any sexuality can only feel attraction towards certain personalities.

Shall we invent a new sexuality label for straight people who are only attracted to people whose personality they gel with? Or a new sexuality label for women who only date funny guys? No, because there's no need. Just like there's no need for the label "Pansexual" !

Oh I know. Personsexual. And anyone who who doesn't agree with that stupid label can have a personaphobia label thrown at them. That's how it is in this day and age. Talk about gone too flaming far.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

You gave me this to work with. Theres opinions which Ive enjoyed discussing on this thread, and then theres just nonsensical messes. I’ll leave it as this, you’re probably inadvertedly doing a better job at convincing the forum that pan could be a thing than I am.

Show me who here's convinced pansexuality's a discrete orientation. Is it the people you've been arguing with on this thread since?

[Denver]

Also with pansexuality you never find yourself attracted to the same thing

I could be attract to ones personality but hate the next person who is the exact same.

It is always about the individual and not the group

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Plenty of people are "aroused" by a personality. Ever heard the phrase "laughing her into bed" ?

The differences are too insignificant to count toward anything, someone of any sexuality can only feel attraction towards certain personalities.

Shall we invent a new sexuality label for straight people who are only attracted to people whose personality they gel with? Or a new sexuality label for women who only date funny guys? No, because there's no need. Just like there's no need for the label "Pansexual" !

Does this not seem like roundabouts. Youre missing the part where pansexuals do not care for gender. it isnt the same no matter how much you want it to be.

Unless youre claiming anybody who ever would sleep with both sexes is bi, I don’t see your point.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

Show me who here's convinced pansexuality's a discrete orientation. Is it the people you've been arguing with on this thread since?

Give it a chance, your incoherent thought process has only been up a few seconds.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

Does this not seem like roundabouts. Youre missing the part where pansexuals do not care for gender. it isnt the same no matter how much you want it to be.

Unless youre claiming anybody who ever would sleep with both sexes is bi, I don’t see your point.

Ain't that the definition of bisexuality right down to the T?

Christ on a flipping bike.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Withano

Does this not seem like roundabouts. Youre missing the part where pansexuals do not care for gender. it isnt the same no matter how much you want it to be.

Nor do bisexuals, as they like both.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nor do bisexuals, as they like both.

Bisexuals choose which gender to look for pansexuality you allow the gender to find you

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

Give it a chance, your incoherent thought process has only been up a few seconds.

And everyone else on this thread who isn't flogging this pan-sexuality label is raving too according to that. I see.

It's all about you innit. Everyone has to be 100% behind the label and if they're not all on board they need to run it by you in no fewer than a whole essay about why they doubt the validity of a million and two alternative sexual labels that have all popped up in this century.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nor do bisexuals, as they like both.

They are sexually attracted to both genders.

Pan people do not care for your gender.

[TomC]

Why are some backward people so annoyed by minorities defending themselves, and trying to gain acceptance lmao

[TomC]

@Redway

[Withano]

A thread about if it exists is a bit pointless when the people in it are kind of refusing to acknowledge what it is supposed to be.

[Redway]

People are backward for not agreeing with all these 21st-century labels. I see.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

People are backward for not agreeing with all these 21st-century labels. I see.

Its been about since the early 1900s, dude.

[Denver]

I am surprised nobody has made a joke about shagging a frying pan

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Redway

People are backward for not agreeing with all these 21st-century labels. I see.

Which labels are you referring to? Discounting 'pansexual', which is pretty widely accepted.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by TomC

Which labels are you referring to? Discounting 'pansexual', which is pretty widely accepted.

Demisexual for one.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Bisexuals choose which gender to look for pansexuality you allow the gender to find you

So sexuality is a choice, is it? Bisexuals get to "choose" who they're attracted to? Gotcha.

Originally Posted by Withano

Pan people do not care for your gender.

So how is that different to being attracted to both genders? Someone who's bi wouldn't care which gender they date.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So sexuality is a choice, is it? Bisexuals get to "choose" who they're attracted to? Gotcha

Bisexuals decide whether to look for a man or a woman

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So sexuality is a choice, is it? Bisexuals get to "choose" who they're attracted to? Gotcha.

So how is that different to being attracted to both genders? Someone who's bi wouldn't care which gender they date.

A bi person would consider dating a man because they are sexually attracted to men and a bi person would consider dating a woman because they are sexually attracted to women. A pan person would consider dating both, but not because of sexual attraction to gender.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Bisexuals decide whether to look for a man or a woman

Nice of you to speak for bisexuals. I can say that bi people may intend to look for a man or woman, but can easily fall for the other. Especially if they have a good personality!

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Withano

A bi person would consider dating a man because they are sexually attracted to men and a bi person would consider dating a woman because they are sexually attracted to women. A pan person would consider dating both, but not because of sexual attraction to gender.

Again, I don't see why that needs a different label. Bi people can like both genders and prioritize personality instead of looks, and that doesn't make them "pan".

Do you draw a line between a bisexual who puts personality before sexual attraction, and someone who is "pansexual" ?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Again, I don't see why that needs a different label. Bi people can like both genders and prioritize personality instead of looks, and that doesn't make them "pan".

Do you draw a line between a bisexual who puts personality before sexual attraction, and someone who is "pansexual" ?

You dont see the difference between somebody who is sexually attracted to both genders and somebody who does not care for gender?

Really? Sleep on it. Theres a pretty obvious difference lol.

That’s not really what this thread was about.