[Amy Jade]

Well said Shaun

[Kazanne]

Congratulations Kirk

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's sad because the fixing has tainted Kirk's victory and the game as a whole. It undercuts the achievement of almost all the participants.

It's sad that people would probably waste so much of their time just to ruin a game for everyone else.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Exactly, but so glad the fixing backfired on the people trying to cheat the result

Not understanding this at all? Unless you are on about Nicky voting for himself once, which clearly is not the issue here. Someone has been pathetic enough to sit and multi vote for a long time in order to fix it.

Now, As I said I posted my judges votes earlier in the thread and my top 2 were MB and kirk anyway, and I am more than happy with the winner..however, people WILL assoiate this years with the year someone cheated to get kirk and livia top 2 (and from the look of the vote, tried specifically to push some members down in the rankings). When their songs should speak for themselves really. I feel quite bad for kirk and livia tbh because I am certain they aren't childish enough to vote for themselves hundreds of times to fix it so...someone else has tainted this for them

People can deny there was any attempt to fix the results all they want, but its clear for all to see

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Indeed.



Not understanding this at all? Unless you are on about Nicky voting for himself once, which clearly is not the issue here. Someone has been pathetic enough to sit and multi vote for a long time in order to fix it.

Now, As I said I posted my judges votes earlier in the thread and my top 2 were MB and kirk anyway, and I am more than happy with the winner..however, people WILL assoiate this years with the year someone cheated to get kirk and livia top 2 (and from the look of the vote, tried specifically to push some members down in the rankings). When their songs should speak for themselves really. I feel quite bad for kirk and livia tbh because I am certain they aren't childish enough to vote for themselves hundreds of times to fix it so...someone else has tainted this for them

People can deny there was any attempt to fix the results all they want, but its clear for all to see

Yes I agree, and those people are now griping because who they chose to multi vote for didn't win .. My votes were Kirk,Livia and Black Dagger 1st vote ,and my 2nd vote was for Kirk,Livia and Mock ,and this can be verified by Josh . So I didn't cheat

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Indeed.



Not understanding this at all? Unless you are on about Nicky voting for himself once, which clearly is not the issue here. Someone has been pathetic enough to sit and multi vote for a long time in order to fix it.

Now, As I said I posted my judges votes earlier in the thread and my top 2 were MB and kirk anyway, and I am more than happy with the winner..however, people WILL assoiate this years with the year someone cheated to get kirk and livia top 2 (and from the look of the vote, tried specifically to push some members down in the rankings). When their songs should speak for themselves really. I feel quite bad for kirk and livia tbh because I am certain they aren't childish enough to vote for themselves hundreds of times to fix it so...someone else has tainted this for them

People can deny there was any attempt to fix the results all they want, but its clear for all to see

anyway overall the close call in amount of points between #1 and #2 made it very exciting


i am probably a deserved last place, i took a risk and risks can go both ways


my 12 points were for Portugal and tbh i find Luke ranked quite low when his song was quite good

perhaps someone wanted Kirk, Livia as top 2 specifically

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Yes I agree, and those people are now griping because who they chose to multi vote for didn't win .. My votes were Kirk,Livia and Black Dagger 1st vote ,and my 2nd vote was for Kirk,Livia and Mock ,and this can be verified by Josh . So I didn't cheat

Eh? The ones who were multi voted did win? Yes adams didn't, nor mocks but they did suceed in pushing certain other songs down the rankings enough, which was the goal.

Also, no votes can be verified from the public vote, as it was offsite and no username was entered for it.

Either way, people will remember that this year was the year that someone was pathetic enough to do this. Luckily, it seems everyone is in agreement that the winner was fantastic anyway so it won't matter as much. But the denying that it happened, and also trying to make out that it was members voting for themselves that did it..well..thats basically accusing kirk and livia (and other members too..yes, nicky admitted it but his one vote doesn't make a difference here so lets stop pretending it does eh?) of voting for themselves over and over. And I am damn near 100% confident that they would not do that.

[Vicky.]

I also didn't know that many posts had been deleted and infractions given when I first replied to this, so sorry to anyone who was deleted as it makes it look like I removed other peoples then conitnued this myself, which I didn't

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I want Globalvision to return

I want Statesvision where it's the United States and I would be IdaHO

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think most people will remember that Kirk won because his was the best

everyone has basically admitted it at some point in the thread



end of /

[Jøsh]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Thank you for the votes guys

Underscore

Originally Posted by MB.

Thanks Shaun! And Morgan! And Underscore! And Josh! And Donna, Lynn, Pat, Laurie, Shelly, Aaliyah, Rose, Brian, Darren and Ulysses!

no problem

[James]

I'm going to close this for a while, before it causes anymore mayhem. Looking at the poll vote counts, as an outsider to it, I think the majority are unrealistic. Whatever that proves I've no idea.