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Ben Carson should go into this restaurant, it would be interesting to see the reaction if he was chucked out.
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Maxine Waters has called on the public to harass members of Trumps administration.
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Maxine Waters has called on the public to harass members of Trumps administration.
Political protest is allowed and enshrined into the constitution. Trump has called for his supporters to actually physically harm people that don't like him, so there's that...
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Political protest is allowed and enshrined into the constitution. Trump has called for his supporters to actually physically harm people that don't like him, so there's that...

Yes but that was in March 2016.

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I'm sorry, I didn't realise there was a Trump statute of limitations whereby anytime he calls for someone to be harmed, he gets a pass after some time passes. Maxine Walters didn't call for anyone to be harmed, just protested.

I'm sure any trade they have lost will be made up in new customers applauding her stance, but either way it's a private business, if they take actions that they feel are right but they hurt their own profit margins, then that's their choice.
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I'm sorry, I didn't realise there was a Trump statute of limitations whereby anytime he calls for someone to be harmed, he gets a pass after some time passes. Maxine Walters didn't call for anyone to be harmed, just protested.

I'm sure any trade they have lost will be made up in new customers applauding her stance, but either way it's a private business, if they take actions that they feel are right but they hurt their own profit margins, then that's their choice.

Yes but she is getting like Trump
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Political protest is allowed and enshrined into the constitution. Trump has called for his supporters to actually physically harm people that don't like him, so there's that...
She went further than requesting political protest though which plays in to Trumps hand

I don't see anything here about the death threats received by workers at restaurants with a similar name ... that to me is news worthy
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[Donald J. Trump.
Congresswoman Maxine Waters, an extraordinarily low IQ person,
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She has just called for harm to supporters, of which there are many,
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It's hilarious how the Trump administration and his supporters are responding to this and how hypocritical it is. A precedent has been set that companies can discriminate against gay people by using their religion as an excuse (A weak excuse, by the way, if someone defies testaments against eating shellfish and wearing multiple kinds of materials at once but adheres to passages saying that homsexuality is a sin that it's their choice to follow those passages and not disregard them like they do the rest.) so no one can complain if this twat gets thrown out of a restaurant because she's the spokesperson for the worst president the US has ever seen

If you're okay with people rejecting custom from gay people then you cannot object to this without being a massive hypocrite.
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It's hilarious how the Trump administration and his supporters are responding to this and how hypocritical it is. A precedent has been set that companies can discriminate against gay people by using their religion as an excuse (A weak excuse, by the way, if someone defies testaments against eating shellfish and wearing multiple kinds of materials at once but adheres to passages saying that homsexuality is a sin that it's their choice to follow those passages and not disregard them like they do the rest.) so no one can complain if this twat gets thrown out of a restaurant because she's the spokesperson for the worst president the US has ever seen

If you're okay with people rejecting custom from gay people then you cannot object to this without being a massive hypocrite.
The cake business doesn't sell gay wedding cakes. This woman was ejected from a restaurant because of her job.
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The cake business doesn't sell gay wedding cakes. This woman was ejected from a restaurant because of her job.
The business rejected them ultimately because of their sexuality.

You can't twist this situation into being different than the cake situation, if that situation was fine and dandy then no one who believes that the bakery situation was resolved correctly can complain about this at all.
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You can't twist this situation into being different than the cake situation, if that situation was fine and dandy then no one who believes that the bakery situation was resolved correctly can complain about this at all.
No, they just don't sell gay wedding cakes. So just go to a shop that does.

If I went into a shop, believing it to sell bacon, and then they told me they didn't, I'd just go elswhere, I certainly wouldn't call Reuters.

But if I worked at Asda, and I decided to go to a restaurant, and the owner kicked me out because they don't like Asda, then I'd think that they are a see you next Tuesday.

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No, they just don't sell gay wedding cakes. So just go to a shop that does.

If I went into a shop, believing it to sell bacon, and then they told me they didn't, I'd just go elswhere, I certainly wouldn't call Reuters.

But if I worked at Asda, and I decided to go to a restaurant, and the owner kicked me out because they don't like Asda, then I'd think that they are a see you next Tuesday.
They sold custom cakes to the spec of the customer. They rejected the customer because of their attitudes towards homsexuality.

Again, any justification you have to say on it doesn't really matter because at the end of the day this restaurant is as entitlted to reject Sanders' custom as that bakery was to reject custom on the grounds of their opposition to homsexuality.

You can't pick and choose, If you agree with the bakery's right to refuse custom then you can't oppose this situation. The precedent has been set.
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You can't twist this situation into being different than the cake situation, if that situation was fine and dandy then no one who believes that the bakery situation was resolved correctly can complain about this at all.
This is just blatantly UNTRUE. The bakery served other Gay customers but objected to the message on this specific cake order.
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This is just blatantly UNTRUE. The bakery served other Gay customers but objected to the message on this specific cake order.
Yes, they rejected the order based on their homophobic views. Your trying to change the wording but you can't change the meaning.

You can't agree with people rejecting customers because of their homophobia and then oppose someone rejecting custom from a government official because they disagree with the direction the government is going.

That's picking and choosing. If you agree with the former, you can't oppose the latter.

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You can't twist this situation into being different than the cake situation, if that situation was fine and dandy then no one who believes that the bakery situation was resolved correctly can complain about this at all.
Why do you keep trying to compare the 2 ! .

The gay couple were NOT "rejected" , who's twisting things now . They were still allowed in the bakery but were asked to choose another type of cake ,it's completely different .

Trump's secretary was actually kicked out because she works for Trump and it was clearly a political decision , as she works for Trump and people actually dislike both her & Trump .
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Why do you keep trying to compare the 2 ! .

The gay couple were NOT "rejected" , who's twisting things now . They were still allowed in the bakery but were asked to choose another type of cake ,it's completely different .

Trump's secretary was actually kicked out because she works for Trump and it was clearly a political decision , as she works for Trump and people actually dislike both her & Trump .
Of course they were rejected, they went into a bakery that offered custom cakes and their order was rejected because the owners decided to choose to follow homophobic passages in the bible because it 'justified' their views.

If you oppose someone's custom being rejected on the grounds of their political views then you can't be okay with the cake story. What you are trying to do here is push a double standard.
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Backlash against the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, Virginia got a little out of control, and a little gross, on Tuesday, culminating in one 51-year-old protester getting arrested after throwing "chicken poop" in the general direction of the Sarah Huckabee Sanders-persecuting restaurant.

The fallout from the decision of the Red Hen's owner to ask Sanders to leave because she works for the Trump administration, and then allegedly helping to stir up a protest against Sanders mostly-liberal family afterward, continues.

The owner, Stephanie Wilkinson, has resigned from her role of director of a local non-profit group designed to promote businesses in the city as a result of the distraction she now presents. "Considering the events of the past weekend, Stephanie felt it best, that for the continued success of Main Street Lexington, she should step aside," the president of the board said.

On Tuesday, Wilkinson's restaurant, which has remained closed since the incident, was visited by a group of protesters who were outraged by the anti-Trumper bigotry. One of those protesters, a West Virginia man, is facing charges after allegedly throwing chicken poop at the restaurant.

WSET reports on the rather raucous group of people, which, along with the feces-flinging West Virginian, included one guy carrying a sign declaring "homos are full of demons":

Tuesday, people turned to the street with their signs in hand to protest the restaurant, which has remained closed since the incident.

Outside the Red Hen people were chanting and held homemade signs, Corey Stewart campaign signs and American and Make America Great Again flags.

Another man held signs that said "Homos are full of demons" and "Unless they repent Let God Burn Them (LGBT) 2 Peter 2:6."

The West Virginian, Reginald Scott Lee, 51, "was arrested and charged with littering and disorderly conduct," NBC4 reports.

Some video of the protest as well as photographic evidence of the gross protest material below:




The firestorm over the Red Hen began when Sanders posted a brief account about her ill-treatment at the hands of Wilkinson:


Sanders handled the ugly situation with class, which Wilkinson later confirmed. The Daily Wire reports:

"I have a business, and I want the business to thrive. This feels like the moment in our democracy when people have to make uncomfortable actions and decisions to uphold their morals," Wilkinson told the Post. Several of her employees, she said, are gay and disagreed with Trump's call for a ban on transgender troops in the military. "Tell me what you want me to do. I can ask her to leave," she says she told her staff. "They said yes."

After telling the press secretary who she was, Wilkinson said she asked for her to come out to the patio, where she "explained that the restaurant has certain standards that I feel it has to uphold, such as honesty, and compassion, and cooperation. I said, 'I'd like to ask you to leave.'" Sanders respectfully agreed to leave and offered to pay for the food that was being prepared. "I said, no," Wilkinson said. "It’s on the house

But that was not the full story.

"There’s a part of that story that has not been told," Sanders' father Mike Huckabee told Laura Ingraham over the weekend. "Once Sarah and her family left — of course Sarah was asked to please vacate — Sarah and her husband just went home, they’d had enough. But, the rest of her family went across the street to a different restaurant. The owner of the Red Hen — nobody’s told this — then followed them across the street, called people and organized a protest, yelling and screaming at them from outside the other restaurant and creating this scene.

The incident has set off a series of debates over the increasing degree of incivility of protesters and the personal harassment of political figures, which Democratic Congresswoman Maxine Waters infamously called for after the targeting of Sanders.
I don't know that I'm willing to take Mike Huckabee's account at face-value. No reason to really disbelieve him I guess, but he's still a politician and it is his daughter, so maybe he is drumming it up...

The whole chicken poop thing is the dumps though. Also nice, some real homemade homophobia...

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Sounds to me like a bunch of unpleasant types spoiling for a fight on both sides
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I don't know that I'm willing to take Mike Huckabee's account at face-value. No reason to really disbelieve him I guess, but he's still a politician and it is his daughter, so maybe he is drumming it up...

The whole chicken poop thing is the dumps though. Also nice, some real homemade homophobia...



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Well like was said with the Irish bakers.They have the right to refuse service to who they like and the market will decide whether they agree by voting with their wallets....

It definitely seems like they are with this place
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Republicans get pissy at the restaurant...

But didn't they lap it up when someone refused service to Joe Biden a few years back?
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Republicans get pissy at the restaurant...

But didn't they lap it up when someone refused service to Joe Biden a few years back?
They did
Can't make it up can you.
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