[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In my head I know it's childish and disrespectful but in my heart it's also hilarious and I guess it's a bit of karma to a disrespectful man

..yeah it is a little bit funny I have to say...but I’m not really on board with it though...not because I have any respect for the Donald or his visit at all..but more because through his political career he has thrived on any negative attention...he has played the media game of ‘any attention is good attention’ so well because he is now president...so this would be something that gives him exactly what he craves..’protests’ against him have really not hindered him at all...it would be better I think to do nothing, no reaction if you like, to his visit...for those protesters to give him the message that he’s not even worthy of their protesting time...protest about other things that are important..but Donald...hmmm no, who the heck is Donald anyway...what would he hate more than anything else, to be ignored by the protesters I would say...no welcomes, no protests...just nothing....

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah it is a little bit funny I have to say...but I’m not really on board with it though...not because I have any respect for the Donald or his visit at all..but more because through his political career he has thrived on any negative attention...he has played the media game of ‘any attention is good attention’ so well because he is now president...so this would be something that gives him exactly what he craves..’protests’ against him have really not hindered him at all...it would be better I think to do nothing, no reaction if you like, to his visit...for those protesters to give him the message that he’s not even worthy of their protesting time...protest about other things that are important..but Donald...hmmm no, who the heck is Donald anyway...what would he hate more than anything else, to be ignored by the protesters I would say...no welcomes, no protests...just nothing....

Spot on Ammi

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

just to say, this is a free country and one balloon won't or shouldn't reflect on the government who has nothing to do with it, besides Trump has seen it all in front of his properties in the US
get a sense of perspective, or failing that, carry on as before, just watch your blood pressure in this weather

ok, I will let you get angry in peace

It is a free country when it comes to moronic gimmicky protests about the visit to it by a serving President of our greatest ally, but not when it comes to the visit itself?

Great thinking there.

[Ammi]

...I’ve just read in another thread that if the balloon doesn’t get made, the money will be donated to charities..I’m not sure if that’s right...?...but if it is right then surely the best ‘peaceful protest’ would be not to make the balloon but instead to donate the monies to Mexican charities, which there are many of...which would surely be a ‘message to Trump’ as well but a much more long lasting and satisfying one with great practical benefits...saying we protesters support the people of Mexico...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It is a free country when it comes to moronic gimmicky protests about the visit to it by a serving President of our greatest ally, but not when it comes to the visit itself?

Great thinking there.

[Twosugars]

getting upset by a balloon, what delicate snowflakes

[bots]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

getting upset by a balloon, what delicate snowflakes

i'm not upset at a balloon, i'm not upset about anything. I just think it's irresponsible behaviour by the mayor. He is not representing all the people of London when he makes politically motivated choices as petty as this.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

getting upset by a balloon, what delicate snowflakes

You don't get it do you? it's NOT the balloon per-se it's what it says about us as a country, it's like we are a load of toddlers throwing our dummies out the pram because someone ,some of us don't like, is coming to visit,not everything is black and white ,there are shades of grey. I find it embarrassing ,best of it is he probably wont even see it

[Twosugars]

chill out, Trump got worse in his own country of which he is the president
that's how western democracies work, it's not a government issue

[Twosugars]

if it goes ahead he will see it Kaz, don't you worry about it
he will see it on tv, over and over, lol

[Twosugars]

I'm simply surprised you all get so worked up about it
it's funny to read, but very surprising
you attach far too much importance to it

[Ammi]

...the thing is for me is that toddler behaviour is something Trump excels at himself...it’s something he rightfully receives much criticism for... so if the response to that...(..the protest to that in this case...)..is equally toddler-like then what does that say...that we can be like him too...and who the heck would ever want to display behaviour in any way that would be similar to him...it’s not so much that there shouldn’t be a peaceful protest as such for me but more not lowering ourselves to toddler antics like Trump does, which I feel this would be...the money has been raised to do this so why not donate it to Mexican charities...which directly sends a message to Trump as well...thank you for your visit Donald, you’ve just inspired fund raising to help the Mexican people you so want to isolate...really appreciate that, sir....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I'm simply surprised you all get so worked up about it
it's funny to read, but very surprising
you attach far too much importance to it

It IS important when we need America as a friend rather than an enemy,if he was to get into toddler mode he could pay us back big time,lets hope he doesn't do that. You don't get good things from people if you choose to disrespect them in this way.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the thing is for me is that toddler behaviour is something Trump excels at himself...it’s something he rightfully receives much criticism for... so if the response to that...(..the protest to that in this case...)..is equally toddler-like then what does that say...that we can be like him too...and who the heck would ever want to display behaviour in any way that would be similar to him...it’s not so much that there shouldn’t be a peaceful protest as such for me but more not lowering ourselves to toddler antics like Trump does, which I feel this would be...the money has been raised to do this so why not donate it to Mexican charities...which directly sends a message to Trump as well...thank you for your visit Donald, you’ve just inspired fund raising to help the Mexican people you so want to isolate...really appreciate that, sir....

Yes
it could back fire,
as Trump may even tweet it.

and maybe the Khan Baby
another group has crowd funded.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It IS important when we need America as a friend rather than an enemy,if he was to get into toddler mode he could pay us back big time,lets hope he doesn't do that. You don't get good things from people if you choose to disrespect them in this way.

if only you worried so much about not making enemy out of EU, bigger and closer
but never mind
Trump is not America, Kaz
he will "pay us back" big time anyway, wait until we leave the EU, good luck fighting trade war with him on our own
I hope you look forward to eating GM food and chlorinated chicken

[arista]

Trump is the legit President of the USA
so half of America likes him.

[Twosugars]

I said I wasn't going to post here and I bloody couldn't help myself
this time that's it, I'm off

looking forward to the balloon! less than a week to go

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

if only you worried so much about not making enemy out of EU, bigger and closer
but never mind
Trump is not America, Kaz
he will "pay us back" big time anyway, wait until we leave the EU, good luck fighting trade war with him on our own
I hope you look forward to eating GM food and chlorinated chicken

I'll be ok TS,I am a veggie

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I said I wasn't going to post here and I bloody couldn't help myself
this time that's it, I'm off

looking forward to the balloon! less than a week to go

yes Both balloons

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

if it goes ahead he will see it Kaz, don't you worry about it
he will see it on tv, over and over, lol

No doubt he, like countless others will think what a lot of silly, unwashed tree hugging idiots

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I said I wasn't going to post here and I bloody couldn't help myself
this time that's it, I'm off

looking forward to the balloon! less than a week to go

You are getting excited by a balloon ? you need to get out more love

[Withano]

‘American idiot’ by Greenday is in the itunes top 10

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah it is a little bit funny I have to say...but I’m not really on board with it though...not because I have any respect for the Donald or his visit at all..but more because through his political career he has thrived on any negative attention...he has played the media game of ‘any attention is good attention’ so well because he is now president...so this would be something that gives him exactly what he craves..’protests’ against him have really not hindered him at all...it would be better I think to do nothing, no reaction if you like, to his visit...for those protesters to give him the message that he’s not even worthy of their protesting time...protest about other things that are important..but Donald...hmmm no, who the heck is Donald anyway...what would he hate more than anything else, to be ignored by the protesters I would say...no welcomes, no protests...just nothing....

I disagree, it would be seen as either acceptance or worse allegiance to the march of the bigot.
That or defeat... This country has a proud herritage of protestation we make ourselves heard when we need to from the suffragettes to the Jarrow marchers to the CND marches to the poll tax riots.

Nothing was ever accomplished by saying and doing nothing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No doubt he, like countless others will think what a lot of silly, unwashed tree hugging idiots

You got something against trees now?... :/

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You don't get it do you? it's NOT the balloon per-se it's what it says about us as a country, it's like we are a load of toddlers throwing our dummies out the pram because someone ,some of us don't like, is coming to visit,not everything is black and white ,there are shades of grey. I find it embarrassing ,best of it is he probably wont even see it

But then what do you have to say about the Sadiq balloon in response? Are you opposed to that or just when it's someone you like?