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17-07-2018, 12:25 AM | #51 | |||
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Triumph of the Weird
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17-07-2018, 02:19 AM | #52 | ||
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Beginning of the end for Trump.
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17-07-2018, 05:30 AM | #53 | |||
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self-oscillating
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17-07-2018, 05:57 AM | #54 | |||
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17-07-2018, 06:01 AM | #55 | |||
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See if he back tracks , this morning. |
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17-07-2018, 06:04 AM | #56 | |||
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17-07-2018, 10:39 AM | #57 | |||
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Your response? A lot more could have gone wrong and it's positive we may have better relations with russia. It's this kind of mealy mouthed response that allows trump to get away with supporting the charlottesville Nazi's, backing a child molester for senate, and the other litany of crimes and misdemeanors he's gotten away with already.
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17-07-2018, 10:59 AM | #58 | |||
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"podium kissing the arse of a dictator who murders journalists"
Yes Russian Journalists were killed by a sub group that can not be connected to Putin. but so does Fecking China Our Former PM took the China leader to his local pub for fish /chips just before the EU vote |
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17-07-2018, 11:09 AM | #59 | |||
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This has to be the beginning of the end for Trump, surely?
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17-07-2018, 11:12 AM | #60 | |||
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I also find it illuminating that you decided to leave out the part of my sentence that highlighted the attack on the USA and the chemical weapons attack in Britain, neither of which were undertaken by the chinese.
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17-07-2018, 11:15 AM | #61 | ||
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17-07-2018, 11:21 AM | #62 | |||
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No I am not I am saying Putin's Russia will not change. The only reason I put China in there was to say - you can not change a nation's leader. Trump does deals. I enjoyed that BBC2HD Docu on Putin when he brought a dog in the room to upset the German leader. Putin is a Dictator but Gas supply's matter more |
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17-07-2018, 11:23 AM | #63 | |||
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17-07-2018, 11:28 AM | #64 | |||
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The president of the US stood next to a russian dictator and spewed all of russia's talking points for them. What a deal maker he is. Let's rejoice.
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17-07-2018, 11:40 AM | #65 | |||
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He moved the Embassy in the Middle East. That was a deal he said he would do Yes Trump can stand with North Korea or Russia, he is one of a kind. Last edited by arista; 17-07-2018 at 11:42 AM. |
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17-07-2018, 11:45 AM | #66 | |||
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You said deals, plural, so what other deals has he done? When you lie with dogs, you get fleas.
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17-07-2018, 11:46 AM | #67 | |||
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17-07-2018, 11:49 AM | #68 | |||
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Just give me a few examples of deals he has done then. Should be easy?
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17-07-2018, 01:09 PM | #69 | ||
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Actually I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them are up in arms against him. I'm fairly certain only his hardcore fans are still supporting him at this point. He definitely doesn't have many political allies left in the US.
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17-07-2018, 01:45 PM | #70 | ||
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What’s that American expression again?
Oh yeah He done goofed there. Even Fox News turned on Trump. He may be fecked. I don’t necessarily believe all the conspiracies about Russia.Alot of media demonisation But!Siding with an enemy nation over your own intelligence services is huuugggee. I wouldn’t think he could stay in office? |
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17-07-2018, 04:49 PM | #71 | |||
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Many saying beginning of the end. It should be but I doubt it. Just the optics of Putin throwing Donnie the ball, mentioning he used to be a KGB director and laughing when asked directly if he had dirt on Trump and of course Donnie siding against his intelligence agency. It all said Strong leader V clown. Should be enough to end it but I still dont know.
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17-07-2018, 04:58 PM | #72 | ||
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17-07-2018, 05:04 PM | #73 | |||
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Trump uniting the world...seems like its week after week to me.
This bloke deserves more than the peace prize he will collect sometime in his tenure as prez...8 yrs hopefully, the worlds coming together now. |
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17-07-2018, 06:47 PM | #74 | |||
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I think we will be seeing him rechristened 'Teflon Trump'.
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17-07-2018, 07:24 PM | #75 | |||
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I don't think that the press and public opinion being upset with him is enough to get someone impeached. So I don't understand going on about how a conversation will be the end of Trump, etc. He's our elected president, so we don't really have a choice in the matter of whether or not to deal with Trump or his appointees...
One of the conservative sites immediately pointed out how terrible this came out, but yeah in the comment sections, users were quick to attack the writer(s) and so yes even his staunchest fans will think he is doing perfectly fine and Trump gonna be Trump, etc. I don't think it's OK the way he threw our intelligence agencies under the bus to come out looking better politically. The reaction would've been 100x worse if it were the military and I think the right specifically would have an issue with this. This isn't any better though imo for me as both communities are quite deeply entrenched in one another. I also have intelligence people in the family, so to hear this outloud is damaging to not only their morale, but they will still do their job(s) despite that rhetoric... Is it the most damaging thing he could've ever done? Absolutely not. He could've signed a 5-yr deal yesterday or something that had major implications for us all, on the basis of those incendiary commentaries... but no, it seems more like he's concerned about coming off like he's completely innocent in an open investigation. I'm less worried about how he will appear in the press (I couldn't care less about this aspect) than I am about how that will affect our efficacy abroad and whether or not certain red flags go unchecked if they do decide to cooperate in the background, etc... that worries me, but at the same time, I know first hand the type of people that network and work in those backgrounds and they are the highest breed when it comes to integrity and national priorities... I don't think those folk would stand idly by if they had a choice in the matter. The comment I disliked the most was about the time they were walking out and he slammed the entire FBI. Yes, slam the way it's being run and how so many leaks and biases are going unchecked... but surely the entire organization isn't irreconcilable? That was my biggest issue with the press conference. If the conference emphasized anything for me, it was that we need this investigation to be closed as soon as possible. Not really just because we need to put this behind us (that's going to take much longer imo), but because folk here really do deserve answers as to what is going on not only in front of us in these conferences, but behind the scenes in terms of what sort of obsfiscation is possibly going on... whether it's Trump or some other orchestrated effort, it's important the people have those details. All the rest is just partisan bickering/nonsense and I tune out after that point... Last edited by Maru; 17-07-2018 at 07:28 PM. |
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