[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats Not Fair Dezzy
at that 2017 Election
it was OUT the CUSTOM UNION
OUT THE SINGLE MARKET.

By BOTH party's
Labour as well./

Yet people voted for the party that was known for backtracking to such an extent that they backtracked on not having that election in the first place. That should have sent warning lights blaring but the people that voted for the tories did so anyway. If any of their voters are unhappy with the way brexit is going then they can only blame themselves for ignoring the signs that the Tories would inevitably backpeddle.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yet people voted for the party that was known for backtracking to such an extent that they backtracked on not having that election in the first place. That should have sent warning lights blaring but the people that voted for the tories did so anyway. If any of their voters are unhappy with the way brexit is going then they can only blame themselves for ignoring the signs that the Tories would inevitably backpeddle.

Dezzy if Labour WON
they also at that day
said OUT OF THE CUSTOM UNION
OUT OF THE SINGLE MARKET



So Either way - Backtracking
for feck sake

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The brexiters voting in their droves for May's government in the election only have themselves to blame.

Any attempts to blame the left is just pure diversionary bull****. People ****ed up by voting tories because they bought into the 'strong and stable' **** despite all evidence showing that the Tory government go back on everything they said they would do. Too many people chose to vote in ignorance of the facts and a likely soft brexit is exactly what they voted for.

A common theme in many of your political posts are "only have their selves to blame", Trump, Tories, Ukip, Brexit etc etc

In other words your disdain for anyone who does not think like you is actually rather disturbing

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Dezzy if Labour WON
they also at that day
said OUT OF THE CUSTOM UNION
OUT OF THE SINGLE MARKET



So Either way - Backtracking
for feck sake

What ifs are meaningless, what MIGHT have happened if Labour does not lessen the fact that the Tory voters that voted Tory thinking they'd get the brexit they wanted did so while ignoring the signs.

You're talking about possibilities but the reality of the matter is that we are most likely getting a soft brexit and it's exactly what the people voted for whether they like it or not. They voted for a flip floppy government and they got a flip floppy take on Brexit.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What ifs are meaningless, what MIGHT have happened if Labour does not lessen the fact that the Tory voters that voted Tory thinking they'd get the brexit they wanted did so while ignoring the signs.

You're talking about possibilities but the reality of the matter is that we are most likely getting a soft brexit and it's exactly what the people voted for whether they like it or not. They voted for a flip floppy government and they got a flip floppy take on Brexit.

Labour Nearly Won

Conservative caused a Hung Parliament - Joined the DUP
to save her.


LABOUR at that Election Day
OUT of the SINGLE MARKET
OUT of the CUSTOM UNION.

Labour FECKING FLIPPED FLOPP
Look at what they want now
EU say NO way

[arista]

Labour is also a flip flopper

Fact

[arista]

"likely getting a soft brexit and it's exactly what the people voted for "

Not all voters wanted a Soft Brexit,
Dezzy/

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yet people voted for the party that was known for backtracking to such an extent that they backtracked on not having that election in the first place. That should have sent warning lights blaring but the people that voted for the tories did so anyway. If any of their voters are unhappy with the way brexit is going then they can only blame themselves for ignoring the signs that the Tories would inevitably backpeddle.

Who else could they vote for. An antisemetic hard-Left hypocrite. Knowing what we all know now about both I expect a vote would be very similar. Lack of choice is the real issue.

[Maru]

Seems to me if we are to believe that the left is supposed to reign in their own extreme influences, then the principle should be that the right has to reign in their own as well... it can't be put all responsibility on the left. Not all our issues can be blamed entirely on one side, naturally, but we all share a bit of responsibility in keeping the whole thing more towards the center... is my first thought.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Labour is also a flip flopper

Fact

An irrelevant one since they arent running the show. Trying to attack me by bkeating on about labour is ultimately a waste of time.

People still voted for this government and their approach to Brexit. Crying about what ifs as a distraction is pointless.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Who else could they vote for. An antisemetic hard-Left hypocrite. Knowing what we all know now about both I expect a vote would be very similar. Lack of choice is the real issue.

This country is not a two party country. People cant complain if they vote for a party with a history of flip flopping and then they flip on an issue. We were never getting a hard brexit with May yet people voted for the tories. Votes have consequences.

[LeatherTrumpet]

If i had a pound for every "rise of the far right " in the last 40 years id be fecking minted

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This country is not a two party country. People cant complain if they vote for a party with a history of flip flopping and then they flip on an issue. We were never getting a hard brexit with May yet people voted for the tories. Votes have consequences.

A vote for one of the other smaller parties would likely have led to Corbyn getting in which would be an even worse disaster in the minds of many. As I said a lack of choice.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

A vote for one of the other smaller parties would likely have led to Corbyn getting in which would be an even worse disaster in the minds of many. As I said a lack of choice.

There was a choice though and many people that wanted a hard brexit went for an option in which they wouldn't get it.

I think it just goes to show, you should vote for who you believe in, you can't vote against someone because you'll end up in this situation where you lose anyway.