[Beso]

Originally Posted by Underscore

"In the past few months, I’ve had many conversations about drag’s newest audience, and not just with other queens. Last week, I talked with a contact on Drag Race network Logo’s social media team, who shared his perspective on condition of anonymity. “I spoke with our research team, and they said that the demographics of users are hard to track because the data is unreliable,” he told me. “People make fan accounts and profiles with misleading ages and such.” Even so, it’s hard not to see that young female fans match gay male fans almost one to one. “From what I’ve seen,” my source said, “the demographics seem to be pretty split between younger female teenage fans and gay men from their 20s to 40s.”"

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...a=gdpr-consent

From the producers of Drag Race

Well i guess fag hags(a gay guy and his were ok with that term when i was talking to them)and gay men go hand in hand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Underscore

"In the past few months, I’ve had many conversations about drag’s newest audience, and not just with other queens. Last week, I talked with a contact on Drag Race network Logo’s social media team, who shared his perspective on condition of anonymity. “I spoke with our research team, and they said that the demographics of users are hard to track because the data is unreliable,” he told me. “People make fan accounts and profiles with misleading ages and such.” Even so, it’s hard not to see that young female fans match gay male fans almost one to one. “From what I’ve seen,” my source said, “the demographics seem to be pretty split between younger female teenage fans and gay men from their 20s to 40s.”"

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...a=gdpr-consent

From the producers of Drag Race

so that is a no

but its principle audience is gay men, obviously not exclusively as that would be impossible and indeed noncommercial as there as so few around

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Well i guess fag hags(a gay guy and his were ok with that term when i was talking to them)and gay men go hand in hand.

they dont go hand in hand parmy or they get clobbered, according to the gay folks on Tibb that is

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its for all gays and straights with no taste in men/woman or tv shows

drag race, whether you admit it or not, is for The Gays only

Again, not true but it doens't really matter. What does Drag Race have to do with this story? The only strenuous link is the ignorant head teacher reaching for an excuse for her hypocrisy by saying that Drag isn't age appropriate because a TV show only allows for adults to participate in it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Totally agree Adam,kids are already sexualised far too much,just let them be kids at school ,they will have enough of that sort of stuff shoved in their faces when they are older.

I agree with this a a general point.

But not seeing how drag necessarily means this is sexual. If the choreography was like burlesque or whatever then yeah, but given the other teachers OKed it I doubt it was.

I also kind of see where parmnion is coming from as I recall this conversation on here before and actually being referred to as 'womanface', and I did actually agree that drag was kind of sexist until; that convo, as I was of the opinion that all drag was parodying and taking the piss out of women, like the only drag acts I had seen up until that stage.

This kid has drag as a hobby, its not really that different to dancing or something. Except its done in makeup and 'womens clothes' (though arguably what on earth are 'womens clothes' to start with. Stereotypes, not absolute.)

I can see no issue here at all. Though I DO have a bit of an issue with that drag queen who is 8, Lacatiaia or something hes called. I find that creepy and definitely a thing pushed on him by his parents at that age. And from what I have seen of him, very sexual also. Which should ring alarm bells in a child that age.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Again, not true but it doens't really matter. What does Drag Race have to do with this story? The only strenuous link is the ignorant head teacher reaching for an excuse for her hypocrisy by saying that Drag isn't age appropriate because a TV show only allows for adults to participate in it.

why are you now insulting an innocent head teacher?


i just dont get it?

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its for all gays and straights with no taste in men/woman or tv shows

drag race, whether you admit it or not, is for The Gays only

i have watched it before and i’m straight so gtf out of here with that bull****

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so that is a no

but its principle audience is gay men, obviously not exclusively as that would be impossible and indeed noncommercial as there as so few around

So you're basically denying a quote that shows what you are saying is wrong because you don't want to admit you are wrong.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

i have watched it before and i’m straight so gtf out of here with that bull****

yes and you are the exception to the rule

do you understand what that means in that context?

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

are you sure

yes

[Beso]

Maybe little johnny just wasnt very good and the head was saving his blushes and future ridicule.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you're basically denying a quote that shows what you are saying is wrong because you don't want to admit you are wrong.

"the demographics of users are hard to track because the data is unreliable"

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why are you now insulting an innocent head teacher?


i just dont get it?

Because the teacher is an ignorant hypocrite that preaches inclusiveness in her bull**** statement while denying a kid's performance that was previously okayed by members of the staff because of her own rampant ignorance.

It's worrying such an unprofessional and ignorant person is in charge of a school.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Maybe little johnny just wasnt very good and the head was saving his blushes and future ridicule.

probably true

teachers can be very kind like that

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

probably true

teachers can be very kind like that

Yes, his teacher probably had a word.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because the teacher is an ignorant hypocrite that preaches inclusiveness in her bull**** statement while denying a kid's performance that was previously okayed by members of the staff because of her own rampant ignorance.

It's worrying such an unprofessional and ignorant person is in charge of a school.

wow

that is just horrible


just horrible

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes and you are the exception to the rule

do you understand what that means in that context?

wait so you said it’s a programme for gay people ONLY now you’re backtracking because you have recognised your own fault.

why not just admit that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

wait so you said it’s a programme for gay people ONLY now you’re backtracking because you have recognised your own fault.

why not just admit that?

Go back a re-read my friend, i was referring to the DRSF on Tibb

stand down

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"the demographics of users are hard to track because the data is unreliable"

But they have provided more reasoning and context for believing that the viewing audience is diverse. You have demanded evidence yet you have provided nothing to back up your own views.

Your whole argument is basically;

'What I'm saying is the truth, if you challenge it you must give me evidence of the contrary but I still will deny it while offering nothing in the wya of proof or context to my own claims.'

LT, if you are going to demand people to qualify their views then you better be ready to qualify what you are saying as well. You've undone yourself with your own logic and standards.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

wow

that is just horrible


just horrible

Not as horrible as defending blackface but

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Go back a re-read my friend, i was referring to the DRSF on Tibb

stand down

i went and had a reread. i found the post i was referring to.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its for all gays and straights with no taste in men/woman or tv shows

drag race, whether you admit it or not, is for The Gays only

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

i went and had a reread. i found the post i was referring to.

well done Sherlock that is exactly right

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not as horrible as defending blackface but

With make up, wig and clothes to imporsonate your favourite performer.

Like little johnathon did..im on your side.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I agree with this a a general point.

But not seeing how drag necessarily means this is sexual. If the choreography was like burlesque or whatever then yeah, but given the other teachers OKed it I doubt it was.

I also kind of see where parmnion is coming from as I recall this conversation on here before and actually being referred to as 'womanface', and I did actually agree that drag was kind of sexist until; that convo, as I was of the opinion that all drag was parodying and taking the piss out of women, like the only drag acts I had seen up until that stage.

This kid has drag as a hobby, its not really that different to dancing or something. Except its done in makeup and 'womens clothes' (though arguably what on earth are 'womens clothes' to start with. Stereotypes, not absolute.)

I can see no issue here at all. Though I DO have a bit of an issue with that drag queen who is 8, Lacatiaia or something hes called. I find that creepy and definitely a thing pushed on him by his parents at that age. And from what I have seen of him, very sexual also. Which should ring alarm bells in a child that age.

I disagree tbh, I don't think the act of drag is demeaning. It's not intended to mock women especially considering that women can also be drag queens as well. It's less to do with demeaning women and more to do with becoming someone else for a while and embodying someone larger than life.

Blackface was created to enforce stereotypes and to make black people seem less worthy of being equal.

[Bones]

Good.