[Aaliyah]

I'm sorry but no one forced her to take heroin!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

I'm sorry but no one forced her to take heroin!

Well... So what? The vast majority of health problems can be traced back to some lifestyle choice or other but that doesn't mean you can't have sympathy for people?

If your best friends dad had a heart attack and they were upset, would you say "Well no one forced him to overeat and smoke!"?

Or a lung cancer victim? Or someone injured in a parachute jump? Or or or.

Obviously it's not exactly the same but people do all sorts of things, for all sorts of reasons, and it doesn't mean you can't feel bad for them when their life derails

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

I'm sorry but no one forced her to take heroin!

Who knows what possessed her to take Heroin of all drugs!!! , it's one of the worst drugs out there and kills so many people .

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So the answer to such views is to insult them? That's utter bull****.

Someone having problematic views, like Brillo has in this thread, doesn't give you the right to insult them. Instead you should respond to what they are saying the right way, beat them in a debate, not by pelting them with insults.

Somebody else's actions do not justify your own.

She got called ignorant. However will she live with such an abusive post?

[Aaliyah]

I'm sorry but the thing is no one forced her

[Jordan.]

It's kinda easy for someone with a clear mind to say well no one forced her though, from her history it's clear she has some unresolved mental and insecurity issues and likely took drugs as a form of escape rather than just being careless.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It's kinda easy for someone with a clear mind to say well no one forced her though, from her history it's clear she has some unresolved mental and insecurity issues and likely took drugs as a form of escape rather than just being careless.

Question is who gave her the drugs, it's so vast the drug scene I swear too many people have "dealer connections" , so it's probably more than one person

[Denver]

I blame Disney

[Shaun]

As someone who's lost a relative to heroin addiction I hope none of you have someone similar go through the same... not because it'd be an obvious harrowimg experience, but because I can't imagine having support like the like seen on here...

[Aaliyah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It's kinda easy for someone with a clear mind to say well no one forced her though, from her history it's clear she has some unresolved mental and insecurity issues and likely took drugs as a form of escape rather than just being careless.

i've done cocaine and mdma and ket before but i've never done heroin like there's a limit sis

[Aaliyah]

Originally Posted by Shaun

As someone who's lost a relative to heroin addiction I hope none of you have someone similar go through the same... not because it'd be an obvious harrowimg experience, but because I can't imagine having support like the like seen on here...

if someone from my family did heroin i'd trap them in a room cold turkey and board the windows up

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

if someone from my family did heroin i'd trap them in a room cold turkey and board the windows up

Forever?

[Ammi]

..I don’t really know much about Demi tbh...she’s not someone I’ve followed in her celebrity career...but heroin is a demon addiction once it has you in it’s hold...I hope she manages to escape that hold...I hope she has the support circle, the strength, the force of her fan’s well wishes...I hope it all comes together for her to find a path that isn’t a destructive one...good luck, Demi.....

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

if someone from my family did heroin i'd trap them in a room cold turkey and board the windows up

Easy to say until they start rattling. Screams of agony, hallucinations, sickness for days on end. Even clean they will still likely relapse being forced into cold turkey,unless as TS says you're going keep them captive forever.

[Aaliyah]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Forever?

Probably

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

if someone from my family did heroin i'd trap them in a room cold turkey and board the windows up

i,,,, wow its not the persons fault they have become addicted

[MB.]

Ammi

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

i,,,, wow its not the persons fault they have become addicted

It wasnt a punishment.

[smudgie]

I wish her a speedy recovery.
I don’t know Demi, but it sounds like she has succumb to the temptation, hopefully she will get all the love and support to help her fight the battle of her addiction.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Shaun

As someone who's lost a relative to heroin addiction I hope none of you have someone similar go through the same... not because it'd be an obvious harrowimg experience, but because I can't imagine having support like the like seen on here...

Well said...and if you ever want an ear to discuss it with there are plenty kind hearted souls on here that would listen.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I’m going to assume that Ailiyah’s posts were only meant for a little bit of trolling and a little bit of baiting and a little bit of this and a little bit of that and a little bit of provoking those very responses those posts were designed for...yep, I’m going to assume that...


..Ailiyah, Ailyah pants on fire...I imagine your heart is filled to the brim with understanding of awful addictions ...

I think the post came from a heart filled with love for their family members.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think the post came from a heart filled with love for their family members.

Well then it also comes from a place of ignorance because going cold turkey from heroin A) doesn't work if it's forced and not voluntary and B) can cause serious health complications, including death.

Also, other than that one post most of her point seemed to be that "No one forces someone to be an addict, therefore it is their own fault, therefore they deserve no sympathy".

It's true that no one forces it, though there can be complicated circumstances, so "whose fault it is" is tricky and irrelevant. Either way, someone being in a bad position through making mistakes is still deserving of compassion and sympathy... why wouldn't they be? NO ONE is perfect. Some people **** up worse than others, but we all **** up. If an addict hasn't done anything to hurt anyone (other than themselves, and their loved ones because of what they're doing to themselves) then why wouldn't people be compassionate? It's different when someone has turned to violent crime like mugging people to support a habit, I get it when people lack sympathy then, but most addicts are not actually violent criminals .

[edit] I'm not trying to lecture you on this parm as I know from past posts there's absolutely no need to. I'm just pointing out that people have very valid reasons for criticising Ailiyah's posts.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

if someone from my family did heroin i'd trap them in a room cold turkey and board the windows up

You sound positively charming