Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 27-07-2018, 12:38 PM #26
RichardG's Avatar
RichardG RichardG is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 6,523

Favourites (more):
CBB19: Kim Woodburn
CBB18: Renee Graziano


RichardG RichardG is offline
Senior Member
RichardG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 6,523

Favourites (more):
CBB19: Kim Woodburn
CBB18: Renee Graziano


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
in other words legalisation of drugs so some could pretend they are ill and say they need medicinal cannibis for the treatment of their ''illness''

ummm no, we need professional doctors at all times, prescribing it then to the terminally ill patients, and not just for every patient, who just need it when they only have a cold for example, only for the seriously ill i would recommend medicinal cannibis
after five years of medical school plus their many years of postgrad training, one would hope that our doctors are intelligent enough to distinguish between a patient with a diagnosed illness requiring pain relief treatment... and a patient with a cold...

Last edited by RichardG; 27-07-2018 at 12:38 PM.
RichardG is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 12:50 PM #27
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

It should be fully decriminalised at this point. The health benefits it provides for people suffering from long term and terminal illnesses is undeniable and even in a recreational sense it isn't lethal in the sense that cigarettes and alcohol can be.

There's no real argument you can make to keep it a criminalised substance.

Last edited by Tom4784; 27-07-2018 at 12:50 PM.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 01:01 PM #28
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 66,714

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 66,714

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kirklancaster View Post
Just to make something perfectly clear - in my previous post, I am NOT objecting to this very welcome good news, because I am all for it. It is overdue.
You dont need to clarify Kirk, reading your post should do the trick
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.

Last edited by Cherie; 27-07-2018 at 03:12 PM.
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 01:04 PM #29
AnnieK's Avatar
AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,669


AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
AnnieK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,669


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kirklancaster View Post
Just to make something perfectly clear - in my previous post, I am NOT objecting to this very welcome good news, because I am all for it. It is overdue.
I don't think anyone did think that Kirk, it was pretty clear that you were in favour I think
__________________
AnnieK is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 01:44 PM #30
kirklancaster's Avatar
kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
kirklancaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


Default

Thank you, my two beautiful girls, Cherie and Annie - I am reassured.
__________________
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts". Daniel Patrick Moynihan (1927-2003)
.................................................. ..
Press The Spoiler Button to See All My Songs

kirklancaster is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 01:47 PM #31
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,046


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,046


Default

Should have happened ages ago tbh, not sure why it didn't when it helps so many illnesses.
Vicky. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 02:02 PM #32
kirklancaster's Avatar
kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
kirklancaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post
Should have happened ages ago tbh, not sure why it didn't when it helps so many illnesses.
PERHAPS:

No one can serve Man and Mammon, not even a British Government, and they have a covert duty to all the existing multi-billion pound pharmaceutical companies whose 'monopoly' will be broken on supplying over-priced drugs to the NHS to treat illnesses which cannabis-derived products can treat better and more cheaply.
__________________
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts". Daniel Patrick Moynihan (1927-2003)
.................................................. ..
Press The Spoiler Button to See All My Songs

kirklancaster is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:02 PM #33
smudgie's Avatar
smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
smudgie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


Default

I would be delighted to have a few drops of CBD oil a day, but it would interfere with my meds.
My son swears by it, so did my late sister.
Hopefully it will be widely available on a script shortly as it's quite expensive over the counter.
smudgie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:07 PM #34
Maru's Avatar
Maru Maru is offline
Cancerian Hat Priestess
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Houston, TX USA
Posts: 10,601

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
CBB22: Gabby Allen


Maru Maru is offline
Cancerian Hat Priestess
Maru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Houston, TX USA
Posts: 10,601

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
CBB22: Gabby Allen


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kirklancaster View Post
There has been extensive 'Scientific/Medical' research carried out Worldwide into the beneficial effects of Cannabis on a whole range of physical and psychological illness for decades and the positive conclusions in ALL cases are irrefutable.

So this news is certainly 'welcome news' but 'Medicinal Cannabis Use' aside, I would urge caution for any euphoric 'ganja-heads' who believe that it is 'One Small Step For Man, One Giant Leap For Cannabis-Users' because our Governments NEVER primarily act in the best interests of the Electorate, only in the best interests of themselves and the 'Mighty Dollar'.

When cannabis using is legalised - and it WILL be - several developments will follow:

1) HUGE amounts of money will change hands in brown mamilla envelopes that will lead to certain companies being awarded licences to grow medicinal cannabis and to other companies for producing cannabis 'cigarettes' which will be sold over the counter in shops as are tobacco products.

Not only will these cannabis cigarettes contain high levels of CBD (which is responsible for the medicinal benefits of ganja) and have much-reduced levels of THC (the intoxicating chemicals which produce the 'High') but they will be very expensive - mainly due to the taxes imposed upon the products by Government.

2) Domestic unlicenced cannabis growing will remain illegal and police forces throughout the nation will 'step-up' their 'war' on illicit cannabis 'farmers' and dealers with prosecution resulting in all cases.

3) The Government will bring in new laws which will in effect stop 'Hydrophonic' grow-shops from trading and the police will be seen to be more proactive in targeting such grow-shops to enforce such new legislation.

4) Stiff new sentences will be handed out by courts for anyone found guilty of any 'illicit' cannabis offences.

In the same way that the Volstead Act in America was repealed when the US Government realised that no amount of legislation can ever prevent the public from getting what it REALLY wants and that prohibition was merely allowing bootleggers to become fabulously wealthy by supplying that demand - vast revenues that could be flowing into government coffers - successive UK Governments have been researching ways to capitalise from the nation's growing cannabis use for decades.

Once they HAVE the way to do so they will protect that source of taxation income by any draconian means available, so whilst this is good news for sufferers of illnesses which can be greatly alleviated by cannabis-derived products, it will NOT be so good for Ganja-Heads and recreational users of cannabis should it ever be fully legalised.

Doubt me all you want, but time will prove me correct.
Maru is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:08 PM #35
Mokka's Avatar
Mokka Mokka is offline
Mokka
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 10,042

Favourites (more):
BB19: Tomasz
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Mokka Mokka is offline
Mokka
Mokka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 10,042

Favourites (more):
BB19: Tomasz
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smudgie View Post
I would be delighted to have a few drops of CBD oil a day, but it would interfere with my meds.
My son swears by it, so did my late sister.
Hopefully it will be widely available on a script shortly as it's quite expensive over the counter.
I highly doubt the oil will ever be available for cheap. Once cannabis is fully legalized it will be regulated and cbd itself only available over the counter... basically for the reasons kirk already stated.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
You've entered the post apocalyptic ruins of a site about a dead show, where every battle imaginable has already been fought a hundred times over. A cynical world of hardened arseholes where the mods have stopped caring, and the administrator is watching Tetris championships while the rest of us bicker in here.
Mokka is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:13 PM #36
Kazanne's Avatar
Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,044

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
Kazanne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,044

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Default

It's been a long time coming,it's been known for a while how beneficial it can be,so it's good news on this.
__________________


RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx

https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian"
Kazanne is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:13 PM #37
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 66,714

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 66,714

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maru View Post
so true Maru! some MPs will be increasing their shares in pharmaceutical companies for sure
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:28 PM #38
Matthew.'s Avatar
Matthew. Matthew. is offline
it’s a mad, mad world
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Tera
BBUSA22: Janelle


Matthew. Matthew. is offline
it’s a mad, mad world
Matthew.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Tera
BBUSA22: Janelle


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
in other words legalisation of drugs so some could pretend they are ill and say they need medicinal cannibis for the treatment of their ''illness''

ummm no, we need professional doctors at all times, prescribing it then to the terminally ill patients, and not just for every patient, who just need it when they only have a cold for example, only for the seriously ill i would recommend medicinal cannibis
“achoo! ugh i need a joint to unblock this nose of mine”

not quite how it works Nicky
__________________





Spoiler:








Matthew. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:29 PM #39
Matthew.'s Avatar
Matthew. Matthew. is offline
it’s a mad, mad world
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Tera
BBUSA22: Janelle


Matthew. Matthew. is offline
it’s a mad, mad world
Matthew.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Tera
BBUSA22: Janelle


Default

brilliant news imo, it helps so many people so it’s silly to make it be illegal
__________________





Spoiler:








Matthew. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:34 PM #40
Underscore's Avatar
Underscore Underscore is offline
beyonce of waltham forest
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Yorkshire/London
Posts: 6,080

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Trish
BB19: Lewis F
Underscore Underscore is offline
beyonce of waltham forest
Underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Yorkshire/London
Posts: 6,080

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Trish
BB19: Lewis F
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew. View Post
“achoo! ugh i need a joint to unblock this nose of mine”

not quite how it works Nicky
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullen Girl View Post
i hope we all die soon


Spoiler:



ST☆RS (TiBB's CBB): 6th/12

I'm a TiBB Member 4: 3rd/16 & Highest Placed All-Star (1st/8)
TiBB on Ice: 4th/15
ST☆RS (TiBB's CBB) 2: 3rd/17
TiBB OTT3: 2nd/13
Underscore is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:39 PM #41
Beso's Avatar
Beso Beso is offline
Piss orf.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 46,911

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Beso Beso is offline
Piss orf.
Beso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 46,911

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Default

20 a bottle for the dbd oil or thc oil...


500ml bottles.

Last edited by Beso; 27-07-2018 at 03:44 PM.
Beso is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:41 PM #42
Alf's Avatar
Alf Alf is offline
Sod orf
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Wapping
Posts: 36,215


Alf Alf is offline
Sod orf
Alf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Wapping
Posts: 36,215


Default

I'm quite liberal on cannabis myself, but Peter Hitchens makes some great arguments against drugs.
Alf is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 03:45 PM #43
Mokka's Avatar
Mokka Mokka is offline
Mokka
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 10,042

Favourites (more):
BB19: Tomasz
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Mokka Mokka is offline
Mokka
Mokka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 10,042

Favourites (more):
BB19: Tomasz
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf View Post
I'm quite liberal on cannabis myself, but Peter Hitchens makes some great arguments against drugs.
A medical scientist I assume?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
You've entered the post apocalyptic ruins of a site about a dead show, where every battle imaginable has already been fought a hundred times over. A cynical world of hardened arseholes where the mods have stopped caring, and the administrator is watching Tetris championships while the rest of us bicker in here.
Mokka is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 09:09 PM #44
Redway's Avatar
Redway Redway is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 12,794


Redway Redway is offline
Senior Member
Redway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 12,794


Default

Step in the right direction.
__________________


At Obe’s Kitchen, it’s lamb-season all-year-round, not just at Easter. I rate that.

Flamingo, Fig and the Fire That Remembers.

London’s shine is vast; Liverpool’s shine is textured.
Redway is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 09:15 PM #45
LaLaLand's Avatar
LaLaLand LaLaLand is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 19,078


LaLaLand LaLaLand is offline
Senior Member
LaLaLand's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 19,078


Default

This will always stay with me, miraculous video:

LaLaLand is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 27-07-2018, 11:10 PM #46
Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,976


Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,976


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
in other words legalisation of drugs so some could pretend they are ill and say they need medicinal cannibis for the treatment of their ''illness''

ummm no, we need professional doctors at all times, prescribing it then to the terminally ill patients, and not just for every patient, who just need it when they only have a cold for example, only for the seriously ill i would recommend medicinal cannibis
Yes, all of those thousands upon thousands of pot heads getting away with faking MS Nicky.
Marsh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-07-2018, 08:49 AM #47
smudgie's Avatar
smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
smudgie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion View Post
20 a bottle for the dbd oil or thc oil...


500ml bottles.
We paid £30 a bottle....only small ones at that.
smudgie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
cannabis, legalised, medicinal, products, uk


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts