[Mokka]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Kay, with all her assertions that she is so special because of her beliefs regarding her diet and lifestyle.

When she is edgy, nervous, indecisive, emotional and runs away from confrontations she instigates and is a major part of.

She needs a blooming good meal, a good bloke and a baby which will make her realise that the world doesn't revolve around her. It would be the making of her.

Whoa whoa whoa....

The suggestion that she is a hysterical woman who needs a man to keep her in line and a baby to focus her simple mind on is straight out of the 50s. Why don't we just sign her up for electro shock therapy to get all those silly vegan notions zapped rt out of her.

There have been plenty of houseguests before her, men and women, meat eaters even, who have not reacted well to being in the BB house... (and I would say plenty after words to come... but hey ho... ) Don't blame it on being female or not enough meat.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Whoa whoa whoa....

The suggestion that she is a hysterical woman who needs a man to keep her in line and a baby to focus her simple mind on is straight out of the 50s. Why don't we just sign her up for electro shock therapy to get all those silly vegan notions zapped rt out of her.

There have been plenty of houseguests before her, men and women, meat eaters even, who have not reacted well to being in the BB house... (and I would say plenty after words to come... but hey ho... ) Don't blame it on being female or not enough meat.

What absolute rubbish and not what I meant at all.

Anyone can tell Kay has no focus in her life due to her many attempts to become an actress, phallic whatsit artist and whatever else fad she might be clinging on to at any time.

My comments were made hoping she could find happiness and stability in her life rather than what she has at the moment which makes her unstable at worst and unfocused at best.

She is 31, not a teenager although she acts like one and she is the center of her own childlike universe and it really is time she stop playing like a fairy and grew up.

I hope she can find someone to shift her focus off herself, a partner and child is not such a bad thing, although some on here may think it is.

[Vanessa]

She's very passive aggressive. Glad she's gone.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What absolute rubbish and not what I meant at all.

Anyone can tell Kay has no focus in her life due to her many attempts to become an actress, phallic whatsit artist and whatever else fad she might be clinging on to at any time.

My comments were made hoping she could find happiness and stability in her life rather than what she has at the moment which makes her unstable at worst and unfocused at best.

She is 31, not a teenager although she acts like one and she is the center of her own childlike universe and it really is time she stop playing like a fairy and grew up.

I hope she can find someone to shift her focus off herself, a partner and child is not such a bad thing, although some on here may think it is.

...I don’t think that Mokka is saying that having a partner and a child or children is a bad thing in any way, Poppsy...if that’s what is wanted and desired by someone..be they Male, female, vegan or meat eater etc...but it isn’t something that’s ever needed though...edgy, nervous, indecisive, emotional and not wanting confrontations etc as you see those charitirestics...?...are all part of who she is and they’re not necessarily negatives unless she herself feels they are and wants to work on changing aspects of herself..and she seems really content and happy with who she is...and so she should be..she needs no readjustments or accessories at all...she’s perfect just the way she is...

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t think that Mokka is saying that having a partner and a child or children is a bad thing in any way, Poppsy...if that’s what is wanted and desired by someone..be they Male, female, vegan or meat eater etc...but it isn’t something that’s ever needed though...edgy, nervous, indecisive, emotional and not wanting confrontations etc as you see those charitirestics...?...are all part of who she is and they’re not necessarily negatives unless she herself feels they are and wants to work on changing aspects of herself..and she seems really content and happy with who she is...and so she should be..she needs no readjustments or accessories at all...she’s perfect just the way she is...

Many on here saw her as I have written, it is not only my opinion.

I disagree that she needs not to change, she easily becomes upset over the slightest perceived issues and she is far from grounded.

She clashed with several housemates who found her histrionics fake and self serving. Because everything she did was for her own promotion but she hid it under her sweetness and light persona.

Look at the difference between her and Zoe, who has had responsibility of a child. Her and Kay are chalk and cheese as Zoe lives in the real world and doesn't describe herself as a fairy or a selfless good person ad nauseum.

She could have given a positive vibe about being a vegan, what she actually gave was an over emotional flaky impression of someone who thought she was too good for the rough and tumble of life with others who were meat eaters and alcohol drinkers.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Many on here saw her as I have written, it is not only my opinion.

I disagree that she needs not to change, she easily becomes upset over the slightest perceived issues and she is far from grounded.

She clashed with several housemates who found her histrionics fake and self serving. Because everything she did was for her own promotion but she hid it under her sweetness and light persona.

Look at the difference between her and Zoe, who has had responsibility of a child. Her and Kay are chalk and cheese as Zoe lives in the real world and doesn't describe herself as a fairy or a selfless good person ad nauseum.

She could have given a positive vibe about being a vegan, what she actually gave was an over emotional flaky impression of someone who thought she was too good for the rough and tumble of life with others who were meat eaters and alcohol drinkers.

I agree with a lot of what you say about Kay's character here, and I think she's a bad representative for Veganism because of her character (not because of her beliefs or the way she lives her life). Her airy fairy, sweet, innocent little angel persona, has probably reaffirmed the impression in some people's minds that Veganism is only for a certain type of person, rather than for the average person. The average person doesn't want to be associated, through Veganism, with the image Kay portrays.

I don't think she needs to change by having a husband or children, or by changing her focus on a cause she believes in or her career choice. I do, however, think she needs to address certain parts of her character that aren't so pleasant and to begin acting like a grown woman in her 30s, rather than some childlike 'fairy'. That way people would find her more real, and would respect her and her cause much more- she might then have her message about Veganism heard and considered.