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bots · 12-10-2018, 12:58 PM

To all these people saying he has turned his life around, seen the error of his ways etc etc. What evidence is there to support this theory. Generally speaking, it requires a little bit more than the person saying it.

Going by what i've seen on the show, he clearly has a temperament that would land himself in trouble in the outside world, so, for me, the evidence from the show is that he hasn't turned his life around.

Vicky. · 12-10-2018, 01:01 PM

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Ok,but arson ALWAYS get jail time if its major (and so it should ) so as someone said earlier it could be he set fire to someones bonfire of the 4th November

Possibly. Arson is not something I know much about tbh, rape is as I have looked into it extensively.

Theft covers a huge range of things also. It could be that he nicked a chocolate bar from tesco and got caught, he could have stole thousands from someone. Again though, only very very serious cases of theft generally result in jail time. I know this because of my own experience which I will PM as it really does not need to be on the forum

Drugs also, yeah huge range. If it was before the new cannabis laws came in, then it could be for as little as having a bit dope on him

What can't be denied is that he has a record. having a record does not automatically make someone a bad person, but I am very biased in this as I have a record

AnnieK · 12-10-2018, 01:07 PM

He only said he has committed crimes - could just be an attention thing IMO - like other people have said if you take drugs - you commit a crime, if you steal a chocolate bar - you commit a crime. I read somewhere he used to set the bins alight in parks - arson - crime committed.

I don't think he has never said he ever got caught for any of the "crimes" has he? (TBF I could have missed that as I've dipped in and out a bit this year). Could just be trying to make himself look more interesting and a reformed character.

Don't like the guy at all - he has some pretty complex issues but I don't think he ever went on a one man crime spree

joeysteele · 12-10-2018, 01:29 PM

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Well there you go,he has been up front plus it doesn't say how 'bad' these crimes were,must have been minor I would think,it doesn't say when it was done, the drugs part may have made him paranoid, it happens to a lot of people,most people have nicked something,as for the arson,naughty but obviously we don't know the context of what it was ,he probs set someones bonfire alight.but thanks at least that's something,it's just strange that the tabloids aren't all over this,but there's time yet.

Whatever he's admitted wrongs and had them dealt with it appears.

As you say we have no real details.

Matthew. · 12-10-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

He only said he has committed crimes - could just be an attention thing IMO - like other people have said if you take drugs - you commit a crime, if you steal a chocolate bar - you commit a crime. I read somewhere he used to set the bins alight in parks - arson - crime committed.

I don't think he has never said he ever got caught for any of the "crimes" has he? (TBF I could have missed that as I've dipped in and out a bit this year). Could just be trying to make himself look more interesting and a reformed character.

that’s actually a great point that i never even thought of and now i’m just sitting here thinking to myself how on earth that never even crossed my mind

saiwong · 12-10-2018, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Homophobia and Racism have always been seen by BB as the most serious and perpetrators evicted immediately.

Not in all cases. Ironically the worst case...

Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd, Jo O'Meara

Jade, Danielle and Jo were all allowed to stay in the house until evicted

poppsywoppsy · 12-10-2018, 02:02 PM

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Not in all cases. Ironically the worst case...

Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd, Jo O'Meara

Jade, Danielle and Jo were all allowed to stay in the house until evicted

I think that if that was the case (I can't remember ) the following outrage made BB do a rethink.

It was several years ago and times and what is acceptable have moved on at a rapid pace.

Black Dagger · 12-10-2018, 02:17 PM

I don't know why people are so arsed now when they haven't for 4 weeks. Just want to give themselves reason to dislike him lol.

Vicky. · 12-10-2018, 02:24 PM

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I don't know why people are so arsed now when they haven't for 4 weeks. Just want to give themselves reason to dislike him lol.

Some have been going on about it a while. I remember a couple of posters back when Anamelia was in talking about this.

smudgie · 12-10-2018, 02:55 PM

Well he has never made headlines in the local rag.
Not even a parking ticket

Vicky. · 12-10-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie

Well he has never made headlines in the local rag.
Not even a parking ticket

Neither have I

Vicky. · 12-10-2018, 02:57 PM

And yes, when he said he had been in trouble for drugs, arson and theft..I didn't even consider that he might be hamming it up to try and appear more interesting, as so many do at the application stage...

bots · 12-10-2018, 02:57 PM

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Neither have I

yet .....

smudgie · 12-10-2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Neither have I

Hmmm, well if he had committed all these crimes he would have done.
Our local paper follows all the court cases...even ruddy magistrates.

smudgie · 12-10-2018, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

And yes, when he said he had been in trouble for drugs, arson and theft..I didn't even consider that he might be hamming it up to try and appear more interesting, as so many do at the application stage...

Ah yes, in his own words “interesting”.

Vicky. · 12-10-2018, 03:07 PM

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yet .....

Heh. I learnt my lesson last time when my dad (who works in a prison) informed me that the max possible penalty was 8 years or something. I thought for ages I was going to jail and wouldn't see my kids grow up...then it turned out I got **** all. Not even a suspended sentence..

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Hmmm, well if he had committed all these crimes he would have done.
Our local paper follows all the court cases...even ruddy magistrates.

IDK. I have 2 convictions for the same thing. And couple of warnings for violence when I was younger (though I expect they only go on convictions rather than cautions)

Thats something else I was crapping about, being in the local paper but that never happened either

I have been a totally law abiding citizen for 3 years now.

Do you live totally in the sticks? Our paper would be like an encyclopedia tbh if all court cases were followed. Which may say something for where I live

smudgie · 12-10-2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Heh. I learnt my lesson last time when my dad (who works in a prison) informed me that the max possible penalty was 8 years or something. I thought for ages I was going to jail and wouldn't see my kids grow up...then it turned out I got **** all. Not even a suspended sentence..

IDK. I have 2 convictions for the same thing. And couple of warnings for violence when I was younger (though I expect they only go on convictions rather than cautions)

Thats something else I was crapping about, being in the local paper but that never happened either

I have been a totally law abiding citizen for 3 years now..

Keep it up Vicky.

Yeah, I was no innocent in my youth, just a passage of life I reckon.